What would I expect for a 302 swap?

[rerun]

Where do i get my info from? man.. anyone who knows jack about the small block ford v-8 knows about the diffrence between the 289 and 302. The Pistons are both 4inchs though.

Look, I don't really want to get in a big arguement about carb and EFI because we both know this crap will go on forever. but just keep this in mind: theres a reason why the fastest drag cars in the world use carbs. (unless they are pure alky, in which they do need need some sort of fuel injection, because the alky would evaporate to fast in the carb)

ALL of the hipo 289s make their power up at 6,000. and can a fairly stock 289 go up to 8500? Yes it can. Although you must becareful because it will rev itself to death (connecting rod bolts fail).

And man, get over the nothing beats a carb thing, it was a personal statment. i also think that 67 is the best year for the mustang (thus, why i bought a 67).. so if you don't like then leave it alone.

I am not trying to make out that 289s are greatly superior, but i do beleave that they have the possiblity to be. And alll my facts were realistic.

[Mercracer]

[quote=rerun]Where do i get my info from? man.. anyone who knows jack about the small block ford v-8 knows about the diffrence between the 289 and 302. The Pistons are both 4inchs though.
Look, I don't really want to get in a big arguement about carb and EFI because we both know this crap will go on forever. but just keep this in mind: theres a reason why the fastest drag cars in the world use carbs. (unless they are pure alky, in which they do need need some sort of fuel injection, because the alky would evaporate to fast in the carb)
ALL of the hipo 289s make their power up at 6,000. and can a fairly stock 289 go up to 8500? Yes it can. Although you must becareful because it will rev itself to death (connecting rod bolts fail).
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Ok....I will leave you alone on the "289's are your favorite engine and 67 Mustangs are your favorite Mustang" thing.
Outside of that, you stepped off of the end a bit. Now is not the time to pick up your toys and go home. You want to bench race? Present some facts.
Ford rated the K code 289 at 271 FWHP @ 6000 RPM. The reality is that they made less than that. Even if we pretend that they did, it is peak HP, and the torque curve sucked. You will find very few true K code "HiPo" 289's out there, and any of them (factory configuration) that are, can be spanked by a factory HO 302.
Regarding the bore, where do you get your data about the 4.004 and 4.005 spec?
Define "fairly stock". Neither a stock 302 or a stock 289 or any configuration anywhere near stock will live at 8500RPM's. That is assuming you changed the cams and springs and put a decent pair of heads on them that would allow them to rev that high in a car.
If you are not willing to debate your point, fine........but since you made it, you should be willing to follow it through, and back it up with facts.

[flex339]

If you are so devoted to the 289's then why not just keep yours and forget the 302. About the hipo 289 though. If you are after one have fun over paying for it and being unsatisfied with it. A 289 with newer performance parts will spank the 289 hipo. If you want a better engine than you have now then get the newer 302 HO and carb it. The roller cam helps the performance and milage. Also the 302 has a bigger aftermarket for future upgrades and the engines are more available.

[rerun]

not debating.. i think thats what we were doing in the last few postes
Also, granted you are right, the stock 289 heads suck ass, pretty much the worst heads ford has ever come out with. can't make power for crap, nor can tehy rev. the heads are really whats holding back the 289 (on the hipo). You must also remember the hipo was a factory engine.. whats really fun about a factory engine?


flex, i don't mean to sound like the know it all asshole again.. but.. any 289 and any 302 (minus the boss) use the exact same parts (minus crank, and rods). so the aftermarket for a 302 and 289 are the exact same(although it is a bitch to find forged crank and rods for a 289).. theres no real point in buying in an orginal hipo if you intend to rod it out.. just get a 289 2v, you will get the same result

[flex339]

I just think that the newer 5.0 H0 engines would be the best way to go. If I were to do the swap on a budget I would get a explorer 5.0 carb it and cam it. That would be a nice simple swap on a budget.

[flex339]

I just think that the newer 5.0 H0 engines would be the best way to go. If I were to do the swap on a budget I would get a explorer 5.0 carb it and cam it. That would be a nice simple swap on a budget. BTW you don't sound like an asshole I forgot the 302 was basically just the 289 stroked. my bad.

[Mercracer]

Originally Posted by Tony H

lol, You talk like its hard to turn a screwdriver.

It's just that an EFI car can hot lap with different tunes by just a keystroke, while the carb car is sitting in the pits getting a jet change.


How indepth have you gotten with your EFI cars? Have you just run factory computers/intakes/MAF/MAP/injectors, etc. or have you gotten into aftermarket engine management during your years of experience?

[Tony H]

Originally Posted by Mercracer

It's just that an EFI car can hot lap with different tunes by just a keystroke, while the carb car is sitting in the pits getting a jet change.


How indepth have you gotten with your EFI cars? Have you just run factory computers/intakes/MAF/MAP/injectors, etc. or have you gotten into aftermarket engine management during your years of experience?

Of course, stock doesn't even come close to cutting it. However, I haven't done much with them in the past two years as I've got back to college for a mechanical engineering degree (gave up the job), and my current project is a 200 I6 (looking to do something different). Maybe they have improved them vastly in the last year and a half, but I doubt it.

[Mercracer]

Originally Posted by Tony H

Of course, stock doesn't even come close to cutting it. However, I haven't done much with them in the past two years as I've got back to college for a mechanical engineering degree (gave up the job), and my current project is a 200 I6 (looking to do something different). Maybe they have improved them vastly in the last year and a half, but I doubt it.

So.........prior to you going to school for the past 2 years, how indepth did you go with the aftermarket?