LS/Vtec Really that good?

[DkShadow]

Originally Posted by Ricochet

AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ahem, sorry... stock '99 GT's run high 14's-low 15's, period.

Are you sure about that? Hmm Might want to look around since Ive ran 14.4 in my auto and my friend with his 03 GT 5spd ran a 14.2 stock, he should now be in the 13s since his gears + exhaust. 96-98s run high 14s, low 15s. I dont know where youre getting this information from unless the drivers in your area suck ass

[94tegRS]

Originally Posted by DkShadow

An LT1 Z28 should run high 13s low 14s... basically the same as a stock 99+ GT



Now, how much would a Ls/Vtec set up end up costing you? Roughly what would the hp/trq estimates be? This setup responds well to boost?
Not trying to hijack or anything

Id say if you already have the block you oculd do it for under a grand.

and I saw a boosted LSVTEC daily driven hatch run a 11.7 at the track one day. he had his slicks on but it still had all seats and the rest of his interior, no spare/jack though but thats not gonnahelp all that much anyways.

and on the hondatda website there is a LSVTEC with 29#'s of boost and gets 647HP.

[DkShadow]

Originally Posted by 94tegRS

Id say if you already have the block you oculd do it for under a grand.

and I saw a boosted LSVTEC daily driven hatch run a 11.7 at the track one day. he had his slicks on but it still had all seats and the rest of his interior, no spare/jack though but thats not gonnahelp all that much anyways.

and on the hondatda website there is a LSVTEC with 29#'s of boost and gets 647HP.

Nice

The reason why I asked is cause im looking for a daily driver with some balls and cant decide what to get (LT1, 5.0 or an EG Civic). Not to mention I have this friend with an LS Teg and I could pass the information right along.

[94tegRS]

get a civic and boost a b20. cheap and fast. engine comes stock with 8.8:1 cr, so boost isnt a problem, dont overdue it though cuz it has weaker sleeves than the LS, but with the lower compression "I'd" think that it would handle 10 psi(i put the I'd part in quotes cuz I am not sure and you hsould aske around before doing it which you probably would anyways if you went that route). and the engine couldnt be older than when the CRV came out, I think it was 1997, maybe 96. so shouldnt need a rebuild. so 800 for block, peice together a turbo kit for like 2500 bucks, flywheel/clutch/tranny/axles/mounts/ecu/harness and there you go.

[Ricochet]

Originally Posted by DkShadow

Are you sure about that? Hmm Might want to look around since Ive ran 14.4 in my auto and my friend with his 03 GT 5spd ran a 14.2 stock, he should now be in the 13s since his gears + exhaust. 96-98s run high 14s, low 15s. I dont know where youre getting this information from unless the drivers in your area suck ass

They must have... I watched three stock GT's run 14.8-15.2 all night long. My bad if I was wrong, but still my point was GT's aren't as fast as Z28's.

[edman24]

ok i will say this one last time. because a car has a v8, that does not make it fast. first of all im so sick and tired of hearing about how good domestics are and how fast they are and all this crap. IF A CAR COMPANY NEEDS A 4.6LITER V8 TO PUT OUT 230HP, THEY SUCK!!! thats strictly my opinion but im sure many would agree. why cant any money be invested into some sort of tuning? something to get out of that stupid american philosophy of bigger is better. why does honda get 240hp out of a 2L 4 cylinder and still sell it at comparable prices if not cheaper then a pos mustang? and show me a reasonably priced domestic that can handle well. and im talking about cars that were not tuned by another company like svt or rousch or whatever its called.

and why do people even compare these cars? one has an engine twice the size of the other. of course it can make more power thats just common sense. they shouldnt be in the same category. yet it still is repeated over and over. frankly i loved whipping on little queers with their big v8's who think that because they have flowmasters that they are the fastest person on the street. thats why i loved my lsvtec hatch and i sure miss it.

to me american cars are pieces of sh*t. ugly, cheaply made, unreliable, and untuned. its so sad that they have the technology to build the best cars in the world but they dont. complete morons

[Jeff C]

I cant stand it when people have that kind of view on American cars .

[Buzz1167]

Edman24, well it seems toyota needs a 4.7l v8 to put out 235 hp, Are you ragging on them too? Check out the 00-01 landcruiser...

Its not meant to be serious, although it is.... Just saying that hp isnt everything.

P.S. 320ft-lbs

Buzz1167
Jon N

[Ricochet]

Originally Posted by edman24

IF A CAR COMPANY NEEDS A 4.6LITER V8 TO PUT OUT 230HP, THEY SUCK!!!

260hp.
Still pos's though..

[DkShadow]

Not trying to hi-jack but I feel this needs to be said...

edman24 , Please... Stop with the ignorance. Learn more about cars then youll know why some come out with lesser power than the other. One reason is because it keeps less stress on the engine rather than maxing out the car from the factory, thus making it more efficient. Also, these cars are built with the fact that most owners are going to change the part out anyways. Some opting for a power adder and such. Also another reason is because of insurance. Would YOU really want to insure a car with 500hp+ out of the factory? You also say that American cars dont handle well? Ill have to ask if youve ever driven one? If you havent and are just talking out of your ass then I would advice you to go test drive one. My Mustang handles exceptionally well from the factory and with a little help from the aftermarket, it would seriously put a hurting on cars built for handling and performing. And lets not forget that the little Ford Focus can outhandle many cars, which is reasonably priced.

why does honda get 240hp out of a 2L 4 cylinder and still sell it at comparable prices if not cheaper then a pos mustang?

Hmm, since alot of you like to magazine race, Ill resort to that to help my point. Lets take for example a Honda S2000 and a Mustang GT. Motortrend got 14.1 out of their GT, and Im willing to bet... since I dont keep up with Honda, that they got a 13.8-9 at the very least for the S2000. How much is an S2000? Not under $30k im sure. How cheap is a Mustang GT? $23k? Dont let me bring up the Mach 1 which is priced at $28k and can crush the S2000s 1/4 times, and the SVT(which is under FORD so its not another company ) Cobra with its IRS suspension which does wonders for handling, and supercharged engine priced at around $33k with over 365rwhp to the rear wheels... meaning the factory rating of 390hp is underrated which again means... More hp for your $$$ and a low 12 second time slip.

If a reasonably priced car with good handling and power makes the Mustang a POS, then Im happy to know that I own a pos that can outrun many cars

Sorry for the long post

[Ricochet]

for it's whole 60k mile lifespan

[DkShadow]

Originally Posted by Ricochet

for it's whole 60k mile lifespan

I would like to tell you that many 4.6li cars have seen over 100k,even when being abused and still run great. The OHC engines are made to last

[YOUNGSTER]

all i know i beat a older truck with a full race suspension with a 67 camaro 350 motor witha cam header and flowmasters i hhave a 97 hatch with a b18c with intake andi beat him by two cars at the most and like by a car several other times so i think its easily possible for the ls/vtec with ctr pistons and i/h/e with a good driver