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09-09-2003, 03:19 PM
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I hate to do this but I feel I have to...
Okay, first of all this is not a direct attack on anyone, so before you guys complain, or a moderator locks/deletes this thread, please hear me out. I feel that you all should know of some suspected modelling plagiarism by one of our members. I am keeping his identity unknown for now. I don't think he will reply to this post, but I will speak with him on AIM about this.
Now, you all know of the exhausts that I make correct? I don't sell them unless someone PM's me about them. Then I'll do business. So one day I got a PM, they ordered two, I sent them and that was that. Now, the same person got back to me and asked for eight more. I said fine, but I specifically told him that I'd only sell them if he wasn't going to sell them as his own/own idea. He agreed. A few days later, I just wanted to check out this members website and to my disbelief it read "metal mufflers now on sale". Do i think that he was going to recieve mine and sell them as my own? Maybe. But, being smart I did not send them to him. I even left him a message on AIM asking for pictures of the metal exhausts he was making. No response...and no other talk about that order. Now, after seeing some evidence of his website being re-modelled, I decided to re-visit it. I was shocked...as he was selling metal exhausts. Exact copies of my own I must add. One of the pictures was actually one of the exact exhausts that i had sent him. I built it, and I remembered what the back end had looked like. I was slightly angry when he gave me zero credit when he showed the finished models that had my exhausts on it. I don't know if he wants to play them off as his own or not. But now I'm even more pissed off that he ripped me off and is now selling them. I felt that I need to speak out about this and that we all need to watch out who we sell our own things to. Just keep this in mind. Thanks to the ones who took the time to read this. -Ryan
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09-09-2003, 04:04 PM
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that sucks...
just for information so no1 get suspicious It wasn't me... I have never done business with ryangorigio
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09-09-2003, 04:18 PM
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Re: I hate to do this but I feel I have to...
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  We all know who it is, But I am not metioning any names......Josh
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09-09-2003, 04:33 PM
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Re: Re: I hate to do this but I feel I have to...
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We all pretty much know who this @$$ hole is, personally i think he should be banned, i actually remember saying that the idea of this guys exaust prolly wasnt even his, since they did come out at the same time as Integra14's To the mods, shit like this has been going on long enough with this member, some thing needs to be done. |
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09-09-2003, 04:36 PM
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That sucks! There should be justice on this forum!
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09-09-2003, 04:48 PM
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This has to end... this is the last straw.. i cannot take this any longer
He has copied: Ryan's mufflers My previous mufflers FOTW's Intercoolers and im sure more that no1 knows about every time he has been Let off loose , but i cannot allow that any longer... before we know it, he'll be selling copies of FOTW's transkits or trying to steal other New products from people.. If you approve of my argument and would like shorty banned type the next consecutiive number after me.... thankyou for your support Ban: 1
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EDIT: now that he lied directly to Integra14's face, i say
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09-09-2003, 05:02 PM
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09-09-2003, 05:07 PM
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IS it Shorty?
Have to grow up shorty.  HAven't you learned you'll definiately get caught if you do something like this. He got you! First some dick head you takes Guiddy's work, then Pman's work 2 times, then you! I know I've talked about doing something like this but I haven't taken it into action, I seems like a good idea but it's just wrong, know I've learned that I shouldn't think about doing it anymore a unless it's for my own use.
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09-09-2003, 05:50 PM
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Wow that sucks AGAIN has happen to me when I was selling some (skateboard) shirts and some guy said he made them But ill be pming you to buy one for a upcoming project.
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09-09-2003, 06:01 PM
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Re: I hate to do this but I feel I have to...
Ok, u guys may think it is shorty but it isnt. I am a really good friend of his and me and him make these exhausts. we didnot steal the idea from neone. I was the one who suggested that we use metal, and i also suggested the sizes to use. I had never seen any of ryangiorgio's exhaust, so all of this is a waste of time. Integra 14, he never copied your exhausts ok? there is no plagerism involved here, just a coincidence that the exhausts seem to look the same.
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09-09-2003, 06:08 PM
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read ryan's post.. mr2... it specifically says that U guys bought his, took pics of hiis, and claimed it as ur own..
u guys need to grow up and stop "stealing" peoples ideas or what not... and: Shorty did have problems with me too... when i sent him a muffler and he claimed it as his own.. everoyone knows that, because i just made a thread bout it.. also wwith FOTW's intercoolers.. everyone knows about that too... Just give up, cause veroyne is catching on that you guys are frauds and shouldn't be aloud to sell , and make profit on hard work that u didn't even do...
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09-09-2003, 06:41 PM
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Re: I hate to do this but I feel I have to...
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 are you talking about, FOTW's intercooler? He never bought an intercooler from FOTW! Here is a pic to prove thoes are not ryangiorgio's, we made these by OURSELVES!!!
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09-09-2003, 06:44 PM
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I am not going to speculate as to who Ryan was posting about, although I am sure we all have a good idea.
[ rant ] What I am going to say is this, it is absolutely unforgiveable and digusting what this person has been doing, their actions are detrimental to the AF modelling community as a whole. I think, pending a moderator's decision, they should be banned without any explanation. [ /rant ]
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