Camaro Vs. 04 Cobra

I didn't think that the ZL1 was concept becuase they made 69 of them and actually sold them. Maybe i got the wrong idea about concepts, i thought they were just one of a kind cars, only one made and never sold to the public, and i think i read somewherer that you could actually buy a ZL1 maro for like $100,000. If i had the loot i would buy it, beats buying a damn enzo for $650K.

I think you need to have 500 to sell for it to be a production car. I might be off though.

oh ok... lets kiss and make up.

I personally HATE mustangs. Why???? Just because. I HATE Ford, why? I've owned 3 and they all SUCKED. (Stupid me kept giving them he benefit of the doubt). I know someone that has a nice 04 (Ithink) Cobra that I wouldn't drive if you paid me because I've never driven a ford that didn't fall apart WAY before it's time. (Brand new 03 Supercrew Xmission went with 7500 miles on it, 99 Explorer... what didn't break??? You get the point.) Oh and expensive as hell to fix. I've had 4 Chevy's 2 K1500 Pickups, an 86 Blazer and my Maro, and (with the Maro being the only exception because I just bought it last year and haven't had the time to get it fixed properly yet) my 86 hit 260k before I sold it to a mexican who drove it to mexcio 11 times before it died, and the 2 trucks are still perfect.

Hey, you like them that's great and more power to you.

If you can't see the humor in my post (which is ALL it was) then you need to get some bloodpressure medicine and a hummer. It was just a joke... who's getting offended?

I understand where your coming from. I have a friend who hates ford because he had a bad expierence with them.I like mustangs and like firebirds and camaros alot too.I'm not one of those mustangs rule camaros suck kind of guy.

I really like what is under the hood of the newer Mustangs, but I don't care for the look of them since the SN95 was released. The 2005 Mustangs look even worse.

come on guys lets play nice...it was all in good fun on both sides, both cars were indeed bad ass and lets not over look the real war...american vs. imports. yes the zl1 was a real production car, i dont know why it was labeled concept, i saw 2 of them last month at the f-body gathering, and adverage people owned them( well adverage people with hella loot) but they werent owned by gm or anything. im a die hard camaro guy who use to own a mustang and i too wasnt happy with the car, but i wont down that man too bad, i didnt see him in here statring anything i just thought he was posting a bad ass mustang. and mustang guy please dont call us a bunch of dicks because were not, i dont post in other forums calling the group out like that so please dont do it to us, if u have a problem with a guy and u feel disrespected tell a mod dont start a war because u know as well as i do that a bunch of people will get involved and the result will be a bunch of guys getting time off and i dont wanna see that, not in here nor the mustang forum. we have a mustang mod..gt thats in here all the time and im sure he can speak for the most of us as being nice guys. so lets just shake hands and keep it clean, we can bash mustang vs ford all day and keep it nice, me and my best friend(i own a camaro and he has 3 mustangs) and we talk shit to one another all the time but it dont end up fist to cuff so lets just all get along like rodney king said :smokin:

I say, if you can't take it, don't dish it out. That goes for both sides here.

Just so everybody knows why a Mustang guy post in here, I post in here because I was close to owning a Camaro myself. I didn't care about either one because I like both cars. In the end though I saw this nice 5.0 that was just a better deal, but I'd still love to own an IROC.

I know both cars have been rivals forever but I really don't care. I like both cars, like to talk about both cars, and that's it. I personally get pissed when both sides get into a shit slinging contest of who's better. Yeah, I think the Mustang is better, but in the end both are great cars so lets leave it at that.

UOTE=Muscletang]I say, if you can't take it, don't dish it out. That goes for both sides here.

Just so everybody knows why a Mustang guy post in here, I post in here because I was close to owning a Camaro myself. I didn't care about either one because I like both cars. In the end though I saw this nice 5.0 that was just a better deal, but I'd still love to own an IROC.

I know both cars have been rivals forever but I really don't care. I like both cars, like to talk about both cars, and that's it. I personally get pissed when both sides get into a shit slinging contest of who's better. Yeah, I think the Mustang is better, but in the end both are great cars so lets leave it at that.[/QUOTE]

Dude, you're a day late and a dollar short. Me and RStang already went and made-up. :smooch::bananasmi We's boys now. :smokin: :ylsuper: Hell, I'll even let him ride shotgun in my maro. :cheers:

Yea, i know 2 camaros that would kill that damn stang. Get either a 69 Yenko or the 68 C.O.P.O Camaro to KILL that stupid ford lover.

Mikes71Cam.

Dude, you're a day late and a dollar short.

Eh, just wanted to put my :2cents: in on this whole thing.


Me and RStang already went and made-up. :smooch::bananasmi We's boys now. :smokin: :ylsuper: Hell, I'll even let him ride shotgun in my maro. :cheers:

If you're really boys you'd pick up a couple of girls and let him ride in the back with one :thumbsup:

...If you're really boys you'd pick up a couple of girls and let him ride in the back with one :thumbsup:

HEY! The ONLY people putting snail trails in the back seat of MY maro is me and my wife... he can drive.

And by the way... a flute with no holes is a dick, and a hole with no donut....

HEY! The ONLY people putting snail trails in the back seat of MY maro is me and my wife... he can drive.

Ok I didn't know your wife and you had dibs on the back seat.

And by the way... a flute with no holes is a dick, and a hole with no donut....

Don't mock the Great Zen Philosopher.

I can see where Earlsfat is going with this... :rofl:

Har!

And by the way... my wife claimed dibs on... the hood, the trunk, the front seat, the back seat, the console, the roof, the fenders... It's ridiculous actually. That damn car has more fucking miles than driving miles.

And by the way... my wife claimed dibs on... the hood, the trunk, the front seat, the back seat, the console, the roof, the fenders... It's ridiculous actually. That damn car has more fucking miles than driving miles.

Nothing wrong with that now :thumbsup:

The dash? Lol

That's what I said... YOU HOW CRAMPED THE DASH IN A 70 CAMARO IS????? My back hurt for weeks after that one.

Hell, I'll even let him ride shotgun in my maro. :cheers:

How about I drive your camaro :biggrin:

If you let me drive your camaro you can drive my stang. I'll make sure the nitrous bottle is empty though :grinno:

Or if you want you can take out the crotch rocket :naughty: :biggrin:

now that my car is running, i will tear a new one on an 04 cobra... just wanted to throw that one in :evillol:

How about I drive your camaro :biggrin:

If you let me drive your camaro you can drive my stang. I'll make sure the nitrous bottle is empty though :grinno:

Or if you want you can take out the crotch rocket :naughty: :biggrin:

DUDE! What kind of bike???

Had a 97 Katana 600... to make a long story short my grandfather slipped and told my wife about my 138 mph speeding ticket and I had to sell it, she was pregnant at the time and completely blew a gasket. And before you ask... I was screaming down an absolutely deserted highway, except for the fucking cop, and about 3 miles later got caught in construction traffic. Talk about flipping out... I thought he was going to shoot me, he looked like he had shit his pants. Said he was close to 180 trying to chase me, but I was outta there before he ever got on the highway. It was originally a $300 fine and 13 points, but I challenged it and he sort of saw the humorous side before the trial... Kept the fine, dropped the points to 6. Insurance never went up.

I almost bought an 04 Honda Interceptor or a 04 Ninja ZR1, but fate and my wife talked me into my Maro. The day I went to pick up the Ninja some poor bastard on a Harley got totally slammed right in front of my office. I'm not superstitious or anything but I took that as a hint.

My point is... You drive my maro, I get to drive both... and FULL bottle of NOS.:evillol:

now that my car is running, i will tear a new one on an 04 cobra... just wanted to throw that one in :evillol:
You probably said this a million times.....what do you have in that hood, and HP?

He did an LT1/T56 swap, in a 3rd gen, it is a deadly combo.

Thanks .........thats awesome

oh damn the car is done, ill have to meet up with u someday so i can see it

ya i posted up some vids of it running... may be a couple weeks before i get to take it out, i have quite a few kinks i've got to get fixed... do u still drive the camaro? or is it torn down for another project? anyway, when i get my car running perfect and all the little quirks worked out, we are gonna meet up at gandy or somethin man

i havent started my ls1 project yet, i hope to have the engine by the end of next month, but ill be building it till about nov. then ill work on getting it droped in by the 1st of the year. i dont have time like i use to have, im done school and im working at the hospital from 530am to 230pm so my time at the shop is weekends only. but that will be the shit when both cars are done and we hit the strip. look forward 2 it man, well turn heads in tampa!

well i'm off to arkansas for college around the start of august, but we will roll together before then. i'll for sure send u a PM when i know i'm gonna be able to race

If only I lived in Phillie........
Never mind I like California better
:)

... Phillie........ Never mind I like California better :)


PHILLIE?!?!? Dude you need to get outta CALIE more often. IT'S PHILLY with a Y!

lol its all good i know what u ment, but i live in florida now, the east coast cali with less gang violance, but if u ever hit the east side your always welcome to roll wit.

now that my car is running, i will tear a new one on an 04 cobra... just wanted to throw that one in :evillol:
Congrats on getting her running.

But I don't think you can take down a 03/04 Cobra. I can't take one down.
Or do you have more done than a mostly stock LT1?

Congrats on getting her running.

But I don't think you can take down a 03/04 Cobra. I can't take one down.
Or do you have more done than a mostly stock LT1?

well on the engine itself, just lt4 hot cam, 1.6 rr's, heavy duty timing set (for rpms above 5500), 30lb injectors and a custom tune... plus the slp headers random technology cat, flowmaster catback... other stuff is te k&n filters (tpi intake setup) descreened MAF, air foil, MSD 8mm plug wires, hurst short throw shifter, alluminum 3in driveshaft, spohn racing lower control arms, 1" rear sway bar, and torque arm (set at -1 pinion angle) 3.42 rear posi...

that's all i can remember... all that in an overall lighter car than 4th gens (actually it was lighter even when i had the full cast iron engine and cast iron tranny, now i have the lt1 w/ alluminum intake manifold, heads, and the t56 is alluminum). i have an electric water pump that i haven't put on yet, and i'll soon be getting a 52mm throttle body...

i exaggerated on the "tear a new one" thing, but i am pretty sure i can beat them... i've seen ls1 4th gens beat them w/ nothing but intake, exhaust, and a tune

oh and i forgot to mention, she'll turn 6500 rpm, and she pulls HARD all the way up there

i've seen ls1 4th gens beat them w/ nothing but intake, exhaust, and a tune
Are you sure about that?
03 Cobras like I said earlier run in the 12 range.
My bad PHILLY :grinno: The east coast is like another country if you live in Cali. I dont spell philly too often...lol

Are you sure about that?
03 Cobras like I said earlier run in the 12 range.
My bad PHILLY :grinno: The east coast is like another country if you live in Cali. I dont spell philly too often...lol

stock ls1 ss's have hit times as low as 12.6 before... they run low 13's easy it doesn't take much at all to get them into the 12's

Stock SS run 12 range?

No, stock SS run 13s it doesnt take much though to get em in the 12s.

stock ss's have posted times like 12.6 before... what i meant was that all of them will run low 13's, but some have been in mid 12's stock... no 2 cars are the same, and the ls1 is known for having factory monsters... but even the ones that post low 13's won't need very much at all to land 12's

:iagree:

As for the 12.6 time that's very impressive. I've heard Cobras pulling the same times. Clearly a Cobra and SS would be a driver's race right there. I would say though the best shot for an SS beating a Cobra would be from a 30-40 mph roll. What do you guys think?

Hm..well what rpms does a cobra peak the HP at? I know SS got those peak HP at around 5200 so what about Cobra?

:iagree:

As for the 12.6 time that's very impressive. I've heard Cobras pulling the same times. Clearly a Cobra and SS would be a driver's race right there. I would say though the best shot for an SS beating a Cobra would be from a 30-40 mph roll. What do you guys think?

well, GM has been known for coming out w/ a few factory monsters... that for some unknown reason are more powerful than all the other cars that are supposed to be the same... one of those monsters is what posted a stock 12.6... but the average one will run low 13's, simple intake exhaust and tune mods will get the average ss in the mid 12's... the ls1 responds very well to mods... as far as the race, if u race a 6-speed camaro from a 35mph roll, u have a good chance of getting ur ass handed to ya... that goes for any car. 35mph in second gear is just about the best place for us 6-speed f-body owners

:iagree:

As for the 12.6 time that's very impressive. I've heard Cobras pulling the same times. Clearly a Cobra and SS would be a driver's race right there. I would say though the best shot for an SS beating a Cobra would be from a 30-40 mph roll. What do you guys think?

See where you're wrong is anyone driving a maro would be too busy getting a hummer from the long line of hot chicks waiting for a ride to bother racing a mustang. :lol2: SO really, the mustang would win.

See where you're wrong is anyone driving a maro would be too busy getting a hummer from the long line of hot chicks waiting for a ride to bother racing a mustang. :lol2: SO really, the mustang would win.

:rofl:

sweet...that reminds me of a story....while at the fbody gathering one of the guys that owned a zl1 was kicking it with us when this hott chick comes up and asks who ownes it. well they guy tells her its mines. after she walks around the car she goes up to him and says, if u give me a ride in that car ill show u 5 reasons why its better than a vibrator! man i about fell outta my seat. now thats why i own a camaro, u get chicks!! :evillol:

Mainly because all those chicks you see driving Mustangs just really want a Camaro but couldnt afford it.

lol yeah thats true....

sweet...that reminds me of a story....while at the fbody gathering one of the guys that owned a zl1 was kicking it with us when this hott chick comes up and asks who ownes it. well they guy tells her its mines. after she walks around the car she goes up to him and says, if u give me a ride in that car ill show u 5 reasons why its better than a vibrator! man i about fell outta my seat. now thats why i own a camaro, u get chicks!! :evillol:


WOW, u just gave me another reason to love my car even more :naughty:

See where you're wrong is anyone driving a maro would be too busy getting a hummer from the long line of hot chicks waiting for a ride to bother racing a mustang. :lol2: SO really, the mustang would win.

:grinno:

Mainly because all those chicks you see driving Mustangs just really want a Camaro but couldnt afford it.

You mean "daddy" couldn't afford it.

sweet...that reminds me of a story....while at the fbody gathering one of the guys that owned a zl1 was kicking it with us when this hott chick comes up and asks who ownes it. well they guy tells her its mines. after she walks around the car she goes up to him and says, if u give me a ride in that car ill show u 5 reasons why its better than a vibrator! man i about fell outta my seat. now thats why i own a camaro, u get chicks!!

Yeah, I wouldn't mind having a girl come up and saying that to me....again.

And ofcourse Muscletang comes here to defend the Stang, lol.

And ofcourse Muscletang comes here to defend the Stang, lol.

Hey I didn't state what car I was in when that chick came onto me in that last post....could of been my GEO. Which is a GM product if you didn't know.

You were in the Geo then? :rofl: Im just playing.

You were in the Geo then? :rofl: Im just playing.

Hey girls will flock to GEOs like men flock to models.

Hey girls will flock to GEOs like men flock to models.

Somehow I dont really believe that :sly:

Somehow I dont really believe that :sly:

Have a little faith baby, have a little faith.

Hey girls will flock to GEOs like men flock to models.
If only it were only true, Instead of Camaros, we could all have Geos!!!!!
SWEET......

:grinno:

Yeah, I wouldn't mind having a girl come up and saying that to me....again.

Then you better get rid of that 'stang. That's why it stopped happening, you fucked up and bought a DUDE magnet.:rofl::lol::grinyes::smooch::evillol::naugh ty::shakehead:nono::boink::flipa::devil::pimp::thu mbsup::owned:

Then you better get rid of that 'stang. That's why it stopped happening, you fucked up and bought a DUDE magnet.:rofl::lol::grinyes::smooch::evillol::naugh ty::shakehead:nono::boink::flipa::devil::pimp::thu mbsup::owned:

Low blow! Messed up on the smilies huh?

damn he said dude magnet :shakehead :shakehead

Thats just emberassing.

Low blow! Messed up on the smilies huh?

Yeah... What's with the smilies all retarded and whatnot?