Camaro SS VS Mustang Cobra

what do you think is better?

and im NOT talking about the Cobra-R

Going on the history of the 2 cars over the years, in my veiw the 2 are neck and neck as to what people think about them.

Me though...it would have to be the Camaro. There's something about owning a Chev :D :D

I think the Cobra.. I don't like the looks of a Camaro too much :D

I like the SS better. Better looks IMHO and nicer sound. Better feedback also.

I'd go with the Mustang. I think it looks a lot better.

But both cars mean alot to me and neither would stay stock for long.

yep stangs look better but theyre nothin compared with the Camaros

the camaros got more power and their hood scoops availble on the SS and ram air firebird are actually functional not like the stangs hood and side vents

its even more pathetic when u see a GT with the optional "bigger" hood scoop on that is still fake, but protrudes out more, probably cathing more air and slowing the car down!

Camaro. It performs better, and I prefer it's looks.

I abhor the humongous dimensions of the contemporary Camaro and Firebird. I know they are better at the strip than the Cobra, and they do have the infamous LS1 V8 (which is in my opinion a much nicer engine - particularly "right out of the box" - than the Mustang V8), but even though the dimensions are pretty close, the Camaro just looks so big and clumsy, and the cabin isn't nearly as nice inside, far as I'm concerned.

Even knowing that I'd get spanked in many a drag race in my DOHC Ford, that's what I'll stick with here.

Well, I choose the Camero. Not because its better looking (and it is better then that shoebox Mustang) but because its over. Done. Finished. It may come back in a few years, but its run its course and its going out with a bang.













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I would take the Camaro, just because of he performance #'s. Personally I like the Firebird T/A more than both of them. About the same performance as the Camaro, and much better looking IMO.

If you want to own the car of the GODS!! Go with the Camaro Z28. Mustang is a woman's car. If you ask a girl what SHE wants to drive out of the two, she will say Mustang. Camaro's are too manly for women. Plus, the Z28 is faster than a Cobra. I've races lots of Cobra's in my Z. Beat them all. Some were close, but most weren't even a challenge. :smoker:

Thats one of the great things about the Mustang - it appeals to both male and female. Its a great design.

Does it matter that a girl likes a car? I don't think so.

The Mustang is has a better stereo (the F-body's is geared more toward a lotta base) and it's more drivable around town. But the Camaro SS's prefornmace outways that. It can do really high 12s stock! That's amazine for a big heavy car like that. :)

Well I would never even cosider a camaro b/c of the styling. Instead I would consider the Firebird, but would end up with the mustang, because they(ford) have finally made them equal this year.

Oh yeah the Cobras IRS makes it handle a ton better. I have test driven them both. The difference is even more noticable if you drive on shitty roads.

One more thing. An aquantince of mine has a 98 cobra. Naturally Aspirated with 450 hp at the wheels. He made most of the mods himself in labs.(you would be amazed at what a profesor will let you do if you get to be friends with him)

DAMN!! That's my kind of prof!! Wish I had had teachers like that in college.. 'course when I was in college, if I had had my Integra back then, I probably wouldn't have even swapped out the stock air filter for a K&N out of fear of voiding the warranty. I've changed my thinking some since then.

Camaro. I think the reason some of you don't like the appearance might be because of the newer headlight design. I would buy a new Camaro and fit on the front clip from before the facelift. That front end with the recessed headlights looks far more along the lines of a 'traditional Camaro', while the connected bulbous headlamps just looks like a corporate gimmick. Oh yeah, and also I would opt for the Anniversary edition, just to show respect for the final production. Think about it. When you've got your new Cobra, in only a few years another new one will come out, and eventually yours will feel a bit dated. The final Camaro body is to be the last of the full production models (a small-scale production for future Camaros has been considered), and will look timeless and fantastic for decades to come.

Personally, I'd take the Cobra, but I'm a lifelong Ford guy. But the more and more I ride in my buddies SS, the more I like it. I would never buy one, but have a ton of respect for them.

Camaro. No question. There is no replacement for displacement, and the camaro makes so much more power than the stang on the ROAD dyno (especially lower-end power). The looks can be fixed. It is faster around the road course (live axles still work well for handling, just suck for ride). Plus, with a few basic mods the Camaro will really outpace the stang (even if the stang has the same mods)

Ford, HA. Mustang, What a load of crap. And why did you not include The Pontiac Trans Am, which is better than both. One word, Firehawk. Case and point, I win.

Ford, HA. Mustang, What a load of crap. And why did you not include The Pontiac Trans Am, which is better than both. One word, Firehawk. Case and point, I win.

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Originally posted by LiuBei
Ford, HA. Mustang, What a load of crap. And why did you not include The Pontiac Trans Am, which is better than both. One word, Firehawk. Case and point, I win.

I know what you mean man. I dated a girl that drove a Civic EX. Now that car will literally peel the pavement off the road. Give me a break.

i had to pick the Camero because I am biased and do not really like Ford.

Hey blacksnake, I got a little equation for you: Take the number of miles you have on your POS Mustang when it falls apart {100k if god has blessed you} multiply that 7 and that is how many miles I can drive my Civic for without any problems. Did Civics ever come with a V-8 and RWD? No I didn't think so. Still unless you have a time machine and go back to the 80's I don't think you'll find any STOCK Mustangs beating any F-Body cars, HOOAH.

BTW, I had a 1999 Trans Am WS6. I got rid of it because of impracticality and high insurance. Though I'll never forget those days when some high school kid would pull up next to me in a Mustang or Camaro for that matter, make some noise, and start laughing and smiling at his friends next to him. I wonder if they appreciated how beautiful my car was from the rear end.

When these little races took place, were you driving solo? Because with all due respect, if you were alone and these high school kids with their friends (plural) challenged you, the extra weight they had to move alone would throw the odds heavily in your favor. Figure two 150-pound scrawny high school kids, which would generally give you close to a 10% horsepower-to-weight advantage right there.

Originally posted by LiuBei
Hey blacksnake, I got a little equation for you: Take the number of miles you have on your POS Mustang when it falls apart {100k if god has blessed you} multiply that 7 and that is how many miles I can drive my Civic for without any problems. Did Civics ever come with a V-8 and RWD? No I didn't think so. Still unless you have a time machine and go back to the 80's I don't think you'll find any STOCK Mustangs beating any F-Body cars, HOOAH.

BTW, I had a 1999 Trans Am WS6. I got rid of it because of impracticality and high insurance. Though I'll never forget those days when some high school kid would pull up next to me in a Mustang or Camaro for that matter, make some noise, and start laughing and smiling at his friends next to him. I wonder if they appreciated how beautiful my car was from the rear end.


You are right, you won't find any STOCK mustangs beating F-bodies. But who leaves them stock? I could mention the difference in displacement in the Mustang vs. F-body, but that debate has been going on forever. You do realize that a mustang has only a 281 cid engine compared to the 350 cid F-body don't you? Nevermind. I'm not too worried about my "POS mustang" falling apart. I have owned cars of all makes, it depends on each individual vehicle as far as how long it will last. Hell, my 87 T-Bird had almost 180,000 miles on the stock/ unrebuilt engine when I sold it, and I still see it around town. Regarless how many miles it has on it when it finally dies, I'm sure that will have put far more smiles on my face than your all-powerful Civic has put on yours. No flames intended, sorry if it appears that way.

blacksnake...how moch power is your cobra making? Whats your fastest ET?

It dyno'd right around 270 rwhp & 270 rwtq several months ago. I have made a few more mods since, so I'm hoping for close to 300rwhp/tq. I'm waiting for a nice cool day to go to the dyno. Over the summer, it was right around 90 degrees, and really humid. So far, my best time is in the low 9's in the 1/8th. I have absolutely no traction what so ever. My trap speeds are pretty good, but my 60' times are horrible. I even had my last three runs video tapped to verify my lack of traction. It looks and sounds just as bad on video as it does in the car. I have to launch at no more than 1800 rpm, or I just blow the tires off. I'm sure driver error has something to do with the times as well, since I have only done it a couple of times. 6 runs total to be exact. Anyways, those are numbers. Nothing to brag about, but there not that bad I guess.

i choose the camaro ss,my cusion has a 2000 and it's bad

Not to offend blacksnake, but a Camaro will also come out on top in max power. But if you like stangs, go ahead! (Its hella better than a Civic :hehehe: )

And if you treat your car well, it will go almost forever! Especially if you love your car and treat it good:)

Actually how you treat it doesn't matter much either. Look at my sister's Accord LOL.(BTW she is getting rid of it ASAP) It is all luck on how reliable the car is. BTW I hate all camaro's because of there looks, well actually I like the 1960's camaro's, but would still get a Firebird over a Camaro, and a Mustang over both because of a weak chassis on the F-bodies, and don't argue with me here, I have been in a hard driven 1995 v-6 stang with 120,000 miles(no problems), and a 1997 v-6 camaro with 70,000 miles. Guess which had more rattles, and guess which was driven on much better roads. The mustang was in a colder climate with worse roads(Indiana), and the Camaro was in a warm climate with very decent roads(Texas). The Camaro is also driven by my aunt, and she drives like a puss.
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Originally posted by blacksnake98
It dyno'd right around 270 rwhp & 270 rwtq several months ago. I have made a few more mods since, so I'm hoping for close to 300rwhp/tq. I'm waiting for a nice cool day to go to the dyno. Over the summer, it was right around 90 degrees, and really humid. So far, my best time is in the low 9's in the 1/8th. I have absolutely no traction what so ever. My trap speeds are pretty good, but my 60' times are horrible. I even had my last three runs video tapped to verify my lack of traction. It looks and sounds just as bad on video as it does in the car. I have to launch at no more than 1800 rpm, or I just blow the tires off. I'm sure driver error has something to do with the times as well, since I have only done it a couple of times. 6 runs total to be exact. Anyways, those are numbers. Nothing to brag about, but there not that bad I guess.

I have traction problems in my '79 vette, too. It has around 500ft-lbs of torque at the crank, with pretty skinny tires....I spin all through first and some of second (it only has three speeds) if I launch at around 2000K then go WOT. I usually have to feather it all through first or just launch in second. Man, I need some slicks:(

Perhaps I should rephrase: If you dont get a lemon, then how you treat your car matters. (I've seen people put on huge amounts of boost, then wonder why their rings and head gasket go:rolleyes: , so I am going to probably end up rebuilding an engine fairly soon, if all goes well)

The Camaro SS more power, and IMHO better looks.

Now first about the weight thing, I can't remember right off hand, but I'd imagine someone was riding with me at sometime or another. Besides those kids probably had stikers on their cars that gave the car an extra 5-100 HP, depending how big the mouth of the kid was. And I know that no one leaves their cars stock nowadays, but I have seen 5.0L's beat newer LT1 Camaros. Hell Its mostly about who is driving also. DIDN'T mean to offend anyone just a little "well my dad can kick your dad's A55" car bashing. Don't take me too seriously, for that would be your first mistake. Just out causing my little shenanigans, HOORAH

The only thing better for the Camaro its is performance; it´s faster. But I really wouldn´t sacrifice the reliability, quality, comfort, roominess, great styling, safety and long life of the Mustang Cobra for a 5mph (don´t know exactly, but certainly not impresively more) faster Camaro SS. :flipa:
Anywise that´s what most people thinks, if not look at the sales of both car? hmmmmm wich one was goin bye bye??? :evillaugh

Car and Driver recently said the camaro had a way better ride/handling/power/seats/pretty much everything than a stang. They were confused as to why it was dying. And so am I:confused:

Originally posted by Chris
Car and Driver recently said the camaro had a way better ride/handling/power/seats/pretty much everything than a stang. They were confused as to why it was dying. And so am I:confused:

I will agree that the Camaro will make more power from the factory, you are looking at 350c.i.d. as opposed to 281c.i.d. But as far as ride, handling, seats etc., I think those are debatable. As far as why they are doing away with them, it's probably because they don't sell that well. And we all know, that it's about making money, and if your making it hand over fist with the Impala, Silverado's etc., why do you need the F-body?

What I should have said was that the F-body has fewer sales, but thats confusing. And as we all know, GM has sold its soul to "marketing", and "brand management". They are shooting themselves in the foot:(

cobra is a sweet car and well it also has 1.1 liter smaller engine and its just as fast....so a little tuning and you can make it fly just the same as a comaro....

driving in both of these cars....both cheapy looking inside but camaro is more comfortable even thought eh mustang is a TRUE 2 seater

the Ford Mustang cobra is slower in a straight line i.e.(dragstrip) but the Cobra beats the Camaro SS around a racetrack i.e.(curves) the Cobra handle better. the base price for a camaro is 22,295 whereas the base price for a cobra is 28,605 slighlty deceptive because if you opt for a SS you will be paying 30,00 grand.

i used to hate chevy but now i dont...i jus think they are dumb...the camaro SS and the base corvette are to close in price and to close in performance for the camaro to be successful...i will sorely miss the camaro...because that is a really love hate relationship.

a Stock Camaro SS WILL not do 12 1/4 mile time im sorry but that just wont happen(power:weight)...that would make it faster than who the corvette.
the camaro feels like the rear end will come around even if you are going straight. girls car?...you need ppl to buy car or they will be cut from production....the only girls car i know of is any car on the road....shit the car is fast. the mustang is a ppl car men and women love they any they are buying them way. Ford knows that most ppl dont leave their mustangs alone......insurance rates are high enough.

I have watched a stock Camaro SS run a 12.8 at a dragstrip. The strip is at sea level and conditions were pretty good that day, low 70s and low humidity. This was the same day I saw a stock '02 Z06 run a 12 flat. GM tends to underate F-Bods, it has to preserve the Corvettes image as the high performance flagship.

woooow those are low times.....i believe it, but damn

i would buy american over italian if I was going all for drag

the new cobras and i don't mean Rs either, go 0-60 in 4.8 sec. that woops a camero even a SS... try to compare it to a corvett wich cost like 12k more and is only .2 sec faster in 0-60 times :flipa:

z06 0-60 is 4.0 i think and its about 55k...best bang for the buck right there

Originally posted by pharcide
the new cobras and i don't mean Rs either, go 0-60 in 4.8 sec. that woops a camero even a SS... try to compare it to a corvett wich cost like 12k more and is only .2 sec faster in 0-60 times :flipa:

Well said.

´Not an opinion but a fact´

Ill keep my 98 z-28 anyday over any Mustang....................
:cool:

I'll go with the pony. It's that special feeling with those cars:bandit:

I would never buy either, if someone handed me the keys, I would not complain about either. if I had to choose I would do it blindfolded =)

i like both but the mustang is better.

as it may be teh EBST car in the world.....I hope your enjoying your ride =)

duh, the ss! It happens every time, ford has the luxury, camaro has the speed!

Well I have owned a few GM products and inparticular a mint '69 Chevelle SS and a '78 Camaro Z28. So I vote for the Camaro. I have never been a Ford man. Not pissing on anyone just my personal opinion is all.

HAHA ford has luxury....ok, I been in teh Limited Edition Excursion but thats not luxury, thats fords best effort, adding leather trim and wood grain, but the cheap plastic knobs on everything is not luxury

THE SS! :) It KILLS.

I ment the mustang has more room, and is more of an everyday driver!

Yea a hair dressers car :D

Ok let's talk bout facts instead of just saying any lame ass thing are lil import driving brains come up with.:flipa:
Sorry always gotta take a shot at Rice-burners!

Let's face it Ford screwed all us Mustang lovers by drooping the 5.0 and picking up the modular engine piece of shit! They should have gone for a bigger engine like that 350 ass-kicker the 351 windsor. But they didn't so what can we salvage? Well the Camaro will beats us at the drag no doubt but considering the cube difference not too much of a beating. Now get on those cars on curves and the Cobra's IRS will plant all of the power to the road leaving that Camaro doing the classic solid axle bumpin spin out. So they both have different strong points. So it all comes down to looks and I guess the people have spoken.

BYE BYE Camaro and Firebird!

But the Ford guys will miss you cuz burning a Riceboy is just boring burning a Chevy is a challenge!

P.S. Chevy is the :devil:

Originally posted by JBL85
HAHA ford has luxury....ok, I been in teh Limited Edition Excursion but thats not luxury, thats fords best effort, adding leather trim and wood grain, but the cheap plastic knobs on everything is not luxury

That´s dumn to say. The Excursion wasn´t created to be a luxury SUV, duh, even the Expedition XLT has more luxury, cause the Excursion is more of a passenger/cargo SUV, for example around here some embassys and some companies use them for comercial purposes and transporting their workers. If you want luxury get the Navigator or Range Rover.