fast and the furious

did you like the fast and the furious if so what was your favorite car in it?

Yea I liked the movie, I knew from the start that it would not be like the real thing, so going in I didn't expext too much. But it did surprize me a bit. Most of the lingo and car talk was good, except when they spoke of dropping a SR20 into a civic, also when they are driving the truck back to fix the supra, the body kit on top is a front facia for a 1st gen miata, I am anal and notice that kinda stuff :rolleyes: Other than those little messups (oh and how a 10sec race last like 5 minutes) the movie was good, and did it's job, entertained me for about 2 hours. I did love when the supra spanked the F355 spyder though, I bet every import freak was hollering "hell yea" like I was. As for my favorite car, it is up between the RX-7 and the Supra, I like them most becuase they were real cars (i.e. the green eclipse was on sale on e-bay, and it was a GS non turbo with just a cat-back under all that green paint and crap IIRC). I would just take off those stupid looking graffic kits of the sides of the cars, then I would take the supra or RX-7. My $.02

MUST BE SMOKIN SOMETHING IF U SAY NETHING OTHER THEN THAT 8 SECOND BLOWN CHARGER

But thats just my opinon i mean realstically that supra was a bad ass ride but it wasnt a 9 second car, and theres no way that that charger was slower then that they ran them next to each other but i dont think many people were fooled, i know the stooopidest car though, that dumb lil del sol on hydralics, what a waste of cash

this is my first post by the way hope i didnt rub neone the wrong way just my opinon

Originally posted by PART
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But thats just my opinon i mean realstically that supra was a bad ass ride but it wasnt a 9 second car, and theres no way that that charger was slower then that they ran them next to each other
Oh please, this from the movie with minute and a half drag races. :D That charger was sick! Like trying to drive a finishing nail with a 20lb sledg hammer. :p

My fave was the Skyline, although it didn't get much play. :(

It was a fair movie, but let's nitpick at it anyway:

-The Supra's targa roof is not a "latch type" and can't really be unhooked as easy as they made it look; it's snug in place with some heavy duty bolts and takes a few minutes to remove.

-Nitrous oxide is not an explosive, and to my knowledge it burns white, not green (correct me if I'm wrong).

-There's no way a Civic--no matter how low it is--can fit under a semi.

-The SR20s were supposedly used in the "Honda 2000" as well.

Again, the movie wasn't that bad, and probably was pretty exciting for a lot of people. But it's still somewhat of a poor representation of reality. Then again, is Hollywood ever not?

My favorite car, the 240SX. Too bad the GT-R was barely touched (probably a loaner).

I agree, that Charger is balls-out.

I have to say that I liked the Charger for two reasons. First, I loved what they did with it. Second, you can pick up a re-built Charger at some car shows for between 5k-10k. But you need to have the mechanical know-how to operate it.

Tweak

Nitrous oxide does NOT explode but it does oxidize the burning process of the rest of the car... sort of like throwing oxygen in a fire. Basically a normal fire is a chemical reaction between a carbon compound (fuel) and oxygen (oxidizer)... if you throw oxygen in a fire, the O2 will not actually explode, but will make the fire burn much faster... :bandit:

I'd take the stock Ferrari. ;)

The charger was like an 11 sec car... the supra has 700hp in real life.

I think that Supra is being auctioned on Ebay.

Tweak

I went to the movie the first night it came out, I just bought my 74 vette. All of the rices were reving their up their pipes "its kinda funny considering thats all that most of them had, an exhaust". I pretty much blew them away since i have no muffler or c-converter, pretty much strait pipes! I reall liked the movie, i wish that they would have put a few more domestic cars in their, because in real live you know that their are always domestics around rice rockets! Also when that charger came about 5 ft off the ground, unless that thing had extremely strong shocks he probably would have lost the whole under carrage! My favorite car was the crown victoria cop car J/K it was the supra!

Originally posted by tweaker76
I have to say that I liked the Charger for two reasons. First, I loved what they did with it.

Huh?!?! They wrecked it!!!

(Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean, but I just couldn't let that one go :) )

Personally, the charger disgusted me. I just have a bad rep w/ old cars... they depress me lol

If the Eclipse would have been a real GSX and 10 sec car, I think that would have been the bestalestest.

Of course, I mean before they thought cars and trains go well together. Some machines should not make physical contact:)

Tweak

sorry to correct u in public dude but the charger hit a Friggin Semi :confused: soooo sad, y u gotta wreck a classic like that i mean they still make shitty civic's blow some more of them up but dont trash the detroit iron ahhh ill get over it...eventually

I guess I'm due to buy it on DVD. It's been a long time since I've seen it. And I only saw it once.

Tweak

well... there are tons of that detroit iron layin around just like there are civics, so no foul there...

and no nitrous doesnt burn, but if the fuel tank blew up, which i guess is what they did there... hell yeah, that beotch is goin up hard w/ that nitrous sittin in there...

the movie was a bit cheesy, sponsored by NOS, which is " an oh ess", not "nos"...
anyone that calls it that has problems, and learned about nitrous from a hyped up movie...
where i work, i literally sold five zex nitrous kits the next day... damn dude...

and if you look at the semis, the box is up like two feet, looks kinda dumb, but if you arent paying attention to it, its sweet...

oh yeah, dude wanted the three mugen motors(which are all motor, high revvin setups) with turbos... um, boom? yeah...

there is alot not to like, but i deal...

dont forget the jetta was an auto... 4cyl non turbo with nos on it...

and the supra puts down 674 with the juice on....
nice, but i would rather have the supra in the new scc that has 1000hp at the crank w/ power seats and a/c still in it... and that is a 10sec car...

The Fast and the Furious does not come out until mid-January. Puting in my bid for Point Break on wheels.

I really liked this movie and will definetly buy the DVD in January.

I didn't like the movie too much. I would have puked had I heard the word "Nawsss" one more time. For the love of God, NOS stands for Nitrous Oxide Systems, and should be said like it is abbreviated...
N - O - S!! This movie was the first time I ever heard it referred to as "Nawss". Of course my favorite vehicles were the Charger and the Lightning, but an honorable mention goes out to the Supra.

ya i liked the movie even though it wasn't that correct. a lot of my friends got into cars after seeing it and dont have a clue what have the shit even is but they still use the terminology. like the awful nawss and turbo. i call it nitrous and they dont know what im talking about. my fav car would have been the eclipse had it of been real, but since it isn't, i like the supra and the rx-7.

Yes, the inconsistancies kinda' drag the movie down, but Hollywood is good at wallowing in ignorance. Personally I like to call "nawss" the laughy gas, though if you breath it you won't be laughing. hehe.

Originally posted by PART
MUST BE SMOKIN SOMETHING IF U SAY NETHING OTHER THEN THAT 8 SECOND BLOWN CHARGER

But thats just my opinon i mean realstically that supra was a bad ass ride but it wasnt a 9 second car, and theres no way that that charger was slower then that they ran them next to each other but i dont think many people were fooled, i know the stooopidest car though, that dumb lil del sol on hydralics, what a waste of cash

this is my first post by the way hope i didnt rub neone the wrong way just my opinon

The movie was made to entertain am I correct? Ok, now answer me this, did it entertain you? Now that we got that out of the way, lets get technical.

1. There's absolutely no way that the Supra, nitrous oxide and all, has a chance to even compete with the Dodge Charger. That charger had a professional blower in it and most likely had a big block chevy in it.

2. WTF does he mean by double clutching? Double clutching is only necessary if your gears aren't synchronized. Older models have unsynchronized gears and that was a 95-98 Eclipse. (correct me if im wrong)

3. After that endless 1/4 mile race, the eclipse had broken piston rings and was still riding flawlessly, I would love to see that in real life.


That was a Mr2 btw.

You guys can't speculate who would win the race in real life. You don't know everything done to the cars. Plus the charger was built up "suposedly" in the past. Meaning older technology. The Supra also probably weighs a good half ton less. So let's just end this conversation.
:argue:

:devil:

Look, the Supra would win fairly easily becaue in real life it had 700hp, AWD, and weighed less than the Charger. I read up on it and it says that they both ran 11 second quarter miles, but the Supra in the low 11's while the charger in the high 11's.

Just saw yesterday a 7 sec Dodge Viper on Speedvision.

What do you think about Viper's?

Tweak

Vipers are sorta shitty stock, but have tons of potential in their V10's

i saw that viper(actually im watching it now) it was sweet, especially the new gts-r that coming out in a couple of years.

Originally posted by AlexB
Vipers are sorta shitty stock, but have tons of potential in their V10's

Ok, sorta' shitty stock?!?!? I would hate to know what you would call other cars stock. As for the Charger Supra debate. All the charger had done to it mainly was the 5 point blower. Had you modded it some more say bye bye to the Supra. The Charger has much more potential depending on the engine. But the Supra will be abl;e to out handle the Charger anyday of the week.

somebody said the supra was AWD....since when? and normally a car with 700hp should produce better ETs then 11's. i personaly don't think Supra's are the best cars for 1/4 mile times.

the Charger would definetely not have had a Big Block Chev. in it. it probably would have been either a Mopar 440 or 426 HEMI block running that car (i doubt anyone would have had a 318 or 360 in a car like that). i'd have to see it again and look closely to be positive.

Viper's Shitty!???:confused:

Compared to your 900 fwhp civic SURE!

Come on the dodge Viper is, one of, if not the most powerful stock cars the U.S. has put out! Anyone who can say a bad thing about a vipers STOCK power is a complete moron. And, He's probably friends with the guy who says the Supra is AWD! I don't like to be mean, but in a discussion like this lets stick to the facts, not opinons.

If I've said it once I'll say it again..."Opinions are like assholes, everbody has one!"

So, unless it is an opinionated forum, we don't want to hear it!:thinkerg:

Yeah, the viper would probably out accelerate most of the cars it would come up against, nothin like good 'ol fashion domestic power when it comes to that aspect. (Just how i feel about the charger too, but i dunno, im not gettin into that argument.) Domestics are also TRADITIONALLY handling cars, which in road racing and such, helps even out the playing field.

Don't get me wrong or anything, i like the viper, but its a big bodied, heavy car, compared to some others you can find. It would be great to drag, but i personally wouldnt find it practical in everyday use.

....Speaking of practicality, thats why most young people go toward imports, well i guess Sport Compacts would be a better term, to modify.

As for the fast and the furious, i thought it was a great movie.....to laugh at :D . I enjoyed it actually, until i walked into the parking lot that night....kids were bein asses in a CROWDED parking lot, a lot of people got into streetracing for all the wrong reasons after that movie.

...oh yeah, the cops and media that ensued afterward put streetracing that took SOME little bit of responsibility into the same category as the teenybopping hollywood "sticker and NAWS" morons that put lots of people in danger in big crowded commercial areas and such. (flame me for it if ya want, i know streetracing is dangerous and can be considered irresponsible either way, but you have to notice that theres a difference between pre-TFATF streetracing and the baby-boom of the rice culture).

I liked the movie though, loved that RX-7, watching it start up and combust through the chambers of its rotary engine leaft me smiling, but, there wasnt enough streetracing, and, after watching it again, i realized how STUPID and corny most of the dialogue was..."its not how you stand by your car, its how you race your car"?!?!?!!! .....wow....thats bad...oh well, i guess hollywood had to make the movie comprehendable to.....well....we know who...

Flame as you wish, im not used to the attitudes and opinions of the people on this forum yet, but would like to know

movie had a good idea, unfortunately it was too fake

Yeah, i have to agree, i think it shouldve been technically accurate, i mean, what would it hurt?!

By the way, NJTy180, bad ass truck in your sig

Vipers suck because they're poorly designed... the new 2002 Z06 is much cheaper and somewhat faster than the viper.

Originally posted by AlexB
Vipers suck because they're poorly designed... the new 2002 Z06 is much cheaper and somewhat faster than the viper.

Poorly designed huh? Is that why the GTS-R dominated LeMans? Could you explain that one to me?

POORLY DESIGNED?! MY GOD MAN!!!!!!! *hits ya over the head with a strut bar* They ARENT poorly designed! Overly hyped, yes, poorly designed, no. Like Polygon asked, have any proof? Sure, id take the Z06, its a far better value, but that doesnt mean the the viper is poorly designed.

Some cars are just meant to fit certain roles. In road racing, the viper cant corner as gracefully as say, a porsche, but once it gets in a straight line, it makes up for cornering loss.

Well, everyone has their own opinion, i dont like the ergonomics of the viper, personally. I would be interested as to why you think theyre poorly designed. (without comparing to the Z06, that we know is a better value)

Well...errrrr....it doesnt feel right finishing the post like that.....errr....have a nice day...or something

Their engine sucks... V10 doing like 7 miles to the gallon spitting out less than the Chevy small block.

the "old" technology in that charger is the same tech in the top fuel cars now... its still a lumpy cam roots blower world, and "old" cars with motors built awhile back still whoop alotta ass...

but yeah, not a single car in that flick was a ten second car.
the supra has 674 with nos on...
and i think the weight is the same or close...

a supra is heavy, 3300 ish, and with all that audio shiet in it, hella fat(as in porky pig)
the charger was stripped out pretty much from the factory, and they dont weigh THAT much... so it would be close...

but as stated, real numbers, not in the movie, the supra is quicker apparently...

I would have to agree with polygon, vipers are pretty tight! But they dont dominate lemans, the last couple of races vette has finished first and second! The only reason the viper is faster than the z06 is because it has 2.3L more than the vette.

le mans note...
the viper is not fully factory backed, and chrysler is getting out of le mans w/ team oreca...
the vettes have a full factory backing, and are running a 6.0 motor in those cars...

and, the new vette is really a 5.3, which has a 2.7 liter disadvantage..
but it is still a 350 somehow... hmm...
its the same motor design as in the new silverados, so yes it is a 5.3...

Wow, too many discussions in one thread!!!!! i think i just felt a synapse burn out :bloated:

Oh well, lets just say its all the fault of the driver or greaterness of the other driver in favor of the cars we're supporting in our arguments, and call it good :D

Wtf are you tripping on... 2002 they're using the LS6 engine on the vette, which is faster than this year than the Viper. Furthermore, displacement isnt everything... you have ignorance written all over you if you think any car is at a disadvantage because of a displacement difference.

i am not ignorant thanks

i meant in a physical size disadvantage..
the viper is 8 liters, the vette is 5.3. which means that size wise there is a disadvantage. yes?

and size does tend to matter, it makes your job easier b/c you have more displacement to start with, so when the bigger motor is tuned completely, it will have an advantage...

i will digress more later... but that is why a small ferrari v8 makes alot of power... but the aftermarket parts dont do much b/c it is so highly tuned...
if you have a big motor, you dont have to tune as highly to get the power... see what i mean?

but i didnt mean that size was the definitive difference.

Originally posted by bluevette74
I would have to agree with polygon, vipers are pretty tight! But they dont dominate lemans, the last couple of races vette has finished first and second! The only reason the viper is faster than the z06 is because it has 2.3L more than the vette.

Yes, I shoudl have specified at first they dominated LeMans. But they don't race the GTS-R anymore, they are all GTS's.

And then I saw the shitty engine comment. All I can say Alex is whatever. You keep bouncing around between the engine and design. I would call the engine far from shitty and people don't buy a Viper for it's wonderful gas mileage. You think the Z06 gets fantastic mileage? The Viper was built as a new age muscle car what do you expect from an 8L V10? And none of the muscle cars of the 60's and 70's got good gas mileage and thus was why they faded out. You have shown be no evidence of your claims and I don't feel that you truly know anything about the Vipers and just are biased against them.

Prove me wrong.

Jeez, I didn't think my question about the Viper would start all this arguing.

Anyway, I just wanted to know what you thought. I did not expect you to say it sucks without qualifying that statement with a reason.

And the reason I asked is because Viper's stock engine generates 450-500 hp, which is what most of the folks here are saying they are nearing with their imports after extensive mods.

Well, have a great weekend everybody!

Tweak

One last thing, if you're worried about gas mileage, buy a Geo Metro or that new partial electric car.

Tweak

Im not sure that the new vette is a 5.3 or 5.7, Their are still 2000 5.7 silverados.

ewww toyota echo....ewwwwww

i saw that in a magazine, Reader's Digest, big banner at the top saying "The Perfect Car p.blah blah blah" so, of course, i picked it up, flipped through the pages, saw the toyota echo, threw up all over the checkout counter, and put the magazine down :D

the 2000 silverados that have a 5.7 are the 88-98 body style. i am talking about the ones that are considered the New body style. i know my trucks...

and the 5.7 isnt really made anymore, as its all been replaced... the vette is not a 5.7 motor...

and for techy terms, the viper was designed as a perfectly balanced I5, and then they put two of em together... that is why they have such a quiet hum, not thumpy like a vette, or most v8s...

i heard a viper and a vette together, and the viper had an import kinda sound to it, not honda, but smoother, while the vette had that chugging v8 thrum that sounds like some crazies trying to break out of jail

WHAT the hell are you talking about?!?!? Vettes don't have thumpy sounds, and yes they still have 5.7L engines... LS1's and LS6's (Z06) now. Of course they're not exactly 5.7... something like 5.699999999999999

What the hell were you smoking when you wrote your last message!??!

um, dude...
thumpy, v8. have you ever heard a v8 motor? do you know what they sound like? listen to that and listen to a v10. different sound. v10 is smooth sounding. not like an 8 isnt, ask anyone here and they will say a v8 has a thumpy rhythm to it.

what was i smoking?
can you read?
must you put me down because you dont understand what i am saying here?

and i apologize on the 5.7, i was pretty sure it was a different setup, still considered a 5.7
www.chevrolet.com/corvette

Engine:
– 5.7 Liter LS1 V8 engine with Sequential Fuel Injection S S –
– 5.7 Liter LS6 V8 engine with Sequential Fuel Injection

so ... ask me what im smoking again.
why dont you stop putting people down and backing your self up...
i just proved me wrong for you. and dont take credit for it.
that was tough. too lazy to do that?
apparently Polygon thinks the same thing

Say "Bah-kah-tah, bah-kah-tah, bah-kah-tah" and you'll have an idea of the noise flylwsi is trying to describe.

I've been near a few Vipers, and I was surprised at how quiet they were in street trim... :confused:

Um it depends on the exhaust system and what 350. I've heard smooth 4-bangers. Get your facts straight before you start talking crazy talk.

Yeah, the motor DOES have somewhat of a sound to it, but exhaust makes the whole deal, yeah im all about imports, but i gotta admit theres nothin like the sound of a nice v8.

4-bangers can sound loud and high pitched, but they dont have the deep throatiness of a v8. They sound more like dirt bikes, you look over, be like "damn, what a fast car" and see its goin nowhere, and that makes it worse.

The engine has a lot to do with the depth of the sound, but exhaust plays a role, so im goin the middle ground on this one.

Hold up, contradicted myself, didnt mean to say it makes "the whole deal" meant to say it "makes a big deal as well"