fast and the furious

there are supras that push near 800hp from what ive read.....but youre right, no TURBO KIT will ever get them near 700......they are tunable up the ass though.....

.....and old cars rock......they just arent for me

as for the kid wanting the fiero, theyre nice cars IMO, i knew some people that had one, and i liked it

And the most sad thing about the wheelstand is, having a hollywood budget you would think they could have at least thrown money at it enough to do a real one. Plus if it had the 900 horses they spoke of it should have had plenty more than enough to do a real one. But the movie was trying to get the import scene on equal ground with the already prodominant domestic scene But you don't do it by putting a beautiful muscle cars up against an all stickered-up Supra with 500 horses tops, have them neck and neck the whole time then wreck the bitch on a simi. then you just piss off all the people you were trying to win over. Oh and one more thing when they first show the Charger it has wrinkle wall drag tires on it, but seconds later shes takin' corners like a bat out of hell. Not on those tires :p

if anyone thinks u cant get a supra much over 700 hp, check out www.to4r.com to get your supra featured there u must make AT LEAST 700 rear wheel horsepower confirmed by a dyno in a STREET LEGAL supra. also one of the supras featured there is the fastest one in america with the stock six speed, it runs 9.5s but like i said its fastest with the STOCK transmission i remember seeing a turbo magazine about a street legal supra with a 2 speed auto that runs 8s.

and as for the movie, its fake as hell. i dont know why everyone thinks its so cool, i mean its alright, but way down on my list of favorites. and did anyone notice their 1/4 mile races took at a minimum of 30-40 seconds each?

Damn a 9.5 sec Supra I knew the bastards were fast but damn, oh and yeah I mentioned in a previous post something about the really long assed 1/4 races. I also agree the whole movie seemed to fake plus it got so much hype b/4 it came out it was really no suprise that it blew ass when it hit the screen :flash:

ahh well crap i said at least 700 rwhp but now that i go to that site i see a few in the 6s. lowest is 646rwhp.

the first race wasnt just a quarter mile that one was a full mile which kinda defeated doms saying when he said i live my life a quarter mile at a time right .thats the only reason that race took so long . as for the charger and the supra it did last a little bit longer than usual but hey they didnt want to show that crappy acceleration they really would have. but the movie all in all was good but fake:bandit:

nah, i think the race times were pretty acurate :p

I though that the movie was pretty good but dumb bacause of all the fack stuff. I bough the DVD and to the people that said the Charger wheelie was fake I think that the director said it was real because he said it took them many times to get the front end up because the car keep flooding. I liked the Supra best out of all the car and the RX-7 second.

ANYONE HAVE A CLEAR PIC OF THE GREEN ECLIPSE IN THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS??? IF SO, E-MAIL ME @:

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hey can anybody tell me what the hell the hose hanging out the bottom of the eclipse is? thats been bothering me and a few of my friends for a while.

if you don't like that movie and you drive a modified car you suck well ok the story sucks quite a bit but who is watching it for that reason the cars is what we're looking at!!:devil:

I don't know whether anyones mentioned it yet coz I haven't read every post, but has anyone here ever seen a 10-second FWD Turbo (Eclipse) get anywhere near that amount of traction, esp. without slicks? It's just rediculous. It should still be smoking up the bags in fourth at the start line 3 minutes later. Anyways, my .02. See ya all over in honda\acura -> asia\pacific.

a supra with a 1000 horse bpu kit will destroy any car on the street what car on the street can have that much horsepower with the combination of a light body its a winning combination that will always cmae out on top

Originally posted by ldelaysionl
hey can anybody tell me what the hell the hose hanging out the bottom of the eclipse is? thats been bothering me and a few of my friends for a while.

You too huh? Best I can figure is that it is a poorly hung Nitrous hose. Other than that, I have no idea.

a datsun 240z with a supra motor and a 1000hp bpu kit will destroy a supra with a 1000hp bpu kit. and then im sure theres something that will kill it too. and then something will beat that. and something else comes next. and so on. but a supra with a 1000 hp bpu kit will take almost anything, just remember something is always faster.

oops :eek: i had mentioned previously in this post that the eclipse...at
least in one scene(where they pop the hood) is a GST or a GSX.....

i watched it again...sorry, i was wrong...it's the DODGE non turbo motor
it's just got the shit polished out of it...thing must be so fast with all
that chrome....

haha...it's prolly not much faster than mine...the most i could see done
to it was that it had an intake, header, and exhaust....therefore it might
have something like 155 to 160 hp...if it's running well...but that's at the crank...
more like 120 rear wheel horsepower...lol...
i doubt they would throw nitros into that car for real, and waste all the
effort put into making the motor pretty

i apologize for that statement about the gsx...i felt like an ass when i
watched the video and sat that it was a chrysler 420a motor...lol...

however, supposedly...they make a turbo kit for that motor and it's
supposed to be pretty good...brings you up to like 260hp...then again
for the money...you can get a used gst or gsx....get a exhaust, filter,
and manual boost controller and prolly come somewhere close to
that mark...and not be straining the motor much


anyway i'm done talking because apparently, as time goes on, i find
that everything i type here turns out to be bullshit...haha

Yea I was gonna blow up on you about the eclipse engine :D

Originally posted by v8 and rice eater
a supra with a 1000 horse bpu kit will destroy any car on the street what car on the street can have that much horsepower with the combination of a light body its a winning combination that will always cmae out on top

*Chuckles* Now how in the world are you going to get that 1000 hp to the ground? Certianly not with only two drive wheels. Well, it would get there, but it wouldn't destroy any car on the street... The traction just isnt there. Hell, the supra teams in JGTC are running like 11 inch wide tires just to keep from having massive wheelspin, and those cars (In GT-500) only have around 500hp. There is a fine line in the HP/Weight area, one were you have a zippy car ie. Impreza WRX, sure it doesn't have 1000hp but its light (I'm not trying to compare the two, before any one jumps the gun and starts flaming) and on the other side you have a drift machine(Not good for drag racing). I saw a video of the Jun Supra, its in the 1000hp range, and it was lighting up the wheels every time it left a turn. To even begin to get 1000hp to the ground you would have to have 4 drive wheels, with a smart AWD system. Take a Skyline GTR, for example, ATTESSA AWD system, can transfer up to 50% torque to the front wheels, moniters lateral acceleration and wheelspin 10 times a second. Now thats what you need if you want to get 1000hp to the ground, and that would STILL have huge problems.

has anyone here ever seen a 10-second FWD Turbo (Eclipse) get anywhere near that amount of traction, esp. without slicks? It's just rediculous.

Now I'm not sure on this, but I think in Japan one of the top 5 1/4 mile times on street tires is a Talon, I'll check and see for ya.

I was wrong, there is an 8.83 sec Eclipse Talon from Extream Motersports here in the US, but that was on slicks.

Bow down!

j/k
I loved the movie the best street racing movie I ever saw.(and only one)

I could handle any of the except the rx-7 and supra.
My fiero is loaded with mods
v8 twinturbo & tourque restraint sys. helps in the drags
and shitload of others. I can take on but not by much my friend with his I think its an 85 turbo Rx-7 with some kinda intake shit and sweet exhaust the thing is like litterally 6 inch straight pipe.

I pushed 430fwhp not shabby for where Im from.
The only thing Ive seen up here with major balls is a fucking vette suped to shit extremely not legal. The shop by my house fixed it up the back end is like 3 feet off the ground and the fucking engine is a supercharged jag v12. He says it does a easy w/out Nitrous 8

Lol....:silly2:

as i have said before, it is much easier to make power than traction.

and the fastest drag car ive ever seen in real life is this guy i know built a vette mith a full fiberglass body weighing 129 lbs and its got a 540 cu. in. full aluminum block with a 1150 blower, its a crate motor making like 1200 hp, cost him $8000. runs 5s on our 1000ft track. and hes drove it on the street here like 2 or 3 times, bout a 15 min drive each time.

then there was the time i was at the track sitting at the line in my subaru and somehow i got paired up with a 60 something fiberglass bodied vette with a blower sticking out of the hood. the announcer was like "what is going on here" over the p.a. he ran a 6 i ran a 13, he beat by over half a track. it was fun :D

I bet that fucker was quick!! Know any of his times?
If you like supras you should check out that video of the Jun Supra drifting, I forgot were I got it but I'll try and find it agian. Me, I'm a skyline guy, but that Supra was bad.

As far as the traction thing, if only we didn't have to worry about traction, that would make everything so much easier :rolleyes:

To clear up a few things, nitrous does burn green and purple. I checked with my buddy who is a full time firefighter, and had him watch the movie.
The supra is not a 700 horse car, it is owned by the president of the nira, it has the single turbo conversion and puts about 540 to the ground,( but that aint no slouch either )
And finally the charger, while the wheelie is a bit much, it is realistic that it was in the 900 horse range, this is machine shop experiance talking.
The last blown hemi i was involved in ran only 25 pounds of boost and put 1380 horses to the ground, but any hemi in good condition with a blower can easily put out 8- 900 horses.

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Originally posted by Polygon


people don't buy a Viper for it's wonderful gas mileage. You think the Z06 gets fantastic mileage? Prove me wrong.

actually the z06 has great gas milage 19/28 city/highway
the vipers v10 is crap, 8.0l and what for horsepower??
the z06 has 405hp at the rear wheels

Originally posted by v8 and rice eater
A Supra with a 1000 horse bpu kit will destroy any car on the street. What car on the street can have that much horsepower with the combination of a light body? Its a winning combination that will always come out on top.

A while back I posted a kill. It wasn't me doing the killin though. I got ripped a new one by a silver Dodge Challenger with a twin supercharged 528ci Hemi. From the way he left me behind I would say that he would kill a 1000HP Supra without a problem. The question is, was his car street legal? Who knows, it was licenced to me thats all that counts.

Originally posted by 377s10


Actually the Z06 has great gas milage 19/28 city/highway.
The Viper's V10 is crap, 8.0L and what for horsepower??
The Z06 has 405hp at the rear wheels.

Well, ignorance strikes back. The V10 is much more capable than the street versions that Dodge has released. The V10 has been known to push out around 750HP. That is all without any type of forced induction. The V10 is a very well built engine. You can make any Viper eat a Z06 for breakfast. The two engines are not comparable; the Z06 doesn't have a chance.

Originally posted by Polygon


Well, ignorance strikes back. The V10 is much more capable than the street versions that Dodge has released. The V10 has been known to push out around 750HP. That is all without any type of forced induction. The V10 is a very well built engine. You can make any Viper eat a Z06 for breakfast. The two engines are not comparable; the Z06 doesn't have a chance.

yes maybe it can produce that much n/a hp but they don't sell it with that much hp, i know of chevy motors producing 2100hp with out nitrous... 750 is possable range for a n/a smallblock chevy with a little work too

Well, I wish that Dodge would release the GTS-R, but the Government won't allow it.

that supra in the movie pushes 540 w/o nos, and 642 with.

if you had a supra w/ 1000 hp, you would need to back halve it, like vinny ten... he is in the scc mag w/the matrix on the cover. he runs 8s. or you could run slicks and a ten sec 1/4 b/c of the wheelspin like the guy with the black supra in scc that had 1000hp at the crank. i dont remember the issue...

oh yeah... find me a chevy that has 2100 w/o nos. not hard. there are lots of cars that put down over 1k hp, but they are forced induction cars. he said n/a viper, 750hp. that means no turbo or s/c or nos. find me a smallblock chevy that has that 2100 you talked about n/a.

and yes, i know you can get alot of power out of it, ie the lemans vettes with 650ish... but not 1k hp or more w/o f/i or nos

i think you need glasses flylwsi, nowheres in my message did i say anything about a n/a 2100hp smallblock chevy

yes the 2100hp is forced induction but its not a small block, its a quad turbo 442ci and its street legal

and what i really said was its possable to get 750+hp outta smallblock n/a chevy. go back to grade three and learn to read

The movie entertained me, but not all the cars/lingo/scenes were anywhere near reality.
My favorite was the Charger.

charger for sure, theres nothing like a supercharged bigblock to get your blood flowing

did i say you said it was na?
you were comparing an na 2100 hp to 750 na hp in a viper.

also... the 405 hp rating on the zo6 is at the crank. not the wheels. just like any other manufacturer rating.

Originally posted by flylwsi
did i say you said it was na?
you were comparing an na 2100 hp to 750 na hp in a viper.

well your saying it right now, and no i wasn't comparing the 2100hp to the vipers 750, i was saying that a small block chevy v8 can be built to produce 750+ hp, actually i know of a 900hp n/a smallblock chevy.

as i said before, "READ THE MESSAGE BEFORE YOU REPLY WITH SHIT LIKE THAT"

Alright everyone, fast and furious was suprisingly a good movie and hat a plot hehe. didnt expect that. My favorite car is a toss up between craig lieberman's supra or that yellow GTR vspec R 33 skyline...the one that the dude with the police scanners drove, realistically, that car stock could take 90% of the cars there...the supra is a real car, its NOT TWIN TURBO, its a NA with a single turbo producing 750HP...check it out at supra store .com. With regard to another persons post the SR20 engines was for the S2000, well that car was featured in super street magazine, that has a stock engine with a comptech super charger producing about 350HP. the car has a millenium veilside body kit and is owned by a JAP, no offense, its a bad ass car...the HKS logo on the car is BS cuz nothing on that car is HKS , the car is really a purpleish blue color...not black.....The supra is a real car and so is the RX7...bomex aero did all the body kits for the RX7 and supra, they had over 5 for the movie as doubles and used for filming but there is a real one for sale for 75 grand,,so if you got it, buy it and give it to me haha....and yes those civics can fit under a semi because me and my friend drove his supra NA under a parked semi at a quickie mart so its possible...oh ya ja rules integra was only 200HP so yes SLOW...how did it hang in that race at all????the civics used were 96-98 EX's not Si's or SIR;s they were american EX's. Lets see what else would yal like to know...oh ya a charger cannot burnout and get up on its real wheels, it can do one or the other, it can either spin its wheels, or it can get up on its rear wheels. to lift up, IT MUST HAVE TRACTION IT CANNOT SPIN OUT. there was an 800 HP supra there as an extra, u can see it driving around near the first race...it was the fastest car there...oh ya and u DO NOT USE NOS IN THE MIDDLE OF A RACE..u use it from the start, and usually its computer controlled and its launched in percentages by a computer or can be manually controlled,,,u need wide open throttle to use NOS or ur engine will crap out...just thought id let yal know whats real and whats not

NickEXR

I think they were using nos from the start, they just had more aggressive settings that they tapped into. But you can use it in the middle of a race, why couldn't you?

using nos ath the start of a race is a good way to burn pistons, rings and valves, nos is more of a mid to high rpm deal, on a stock compression 3000 rpm, and at the start of a race 3000rpm and a nice shot of nitrous would lead to massive wheelspin

hey guys i agree that it should be said N-O-S but dont yall kinda think that since the movie was sponsoed by NOS that they would make sure that its said the right way. Also, the president of the NIRA circut was the 'realistic manager' in other words he made sure that everything in the movie was as realistic as possible, so that kinda leads me to believe that it might actually be said "nawwsss" instead of the normal N-O-S.

just a thought, i dont wanna get bashed for this one, but whatever yall think....

wes

I sometimes saw N-O-S, or Nitrous, or Naus.

Hey I'm glad to see someone pointed out that you can't do both a wheelie and a burnout at the same time (one exception there is a pic on NHRA.com, I dont remember what part, of a top fuel or pro stock that IS doing it but it probably has 5000 horsepower!!! so it can do whatever the hell it wants :) ) Also my opinion on the pronunciation of NOS is; I've always called it N-O-S and this movie was the first time I have ever heard it called naauuss but hey i figure whatever floats your boat ;) ,but the crap scares the hell out of me so I'll never use it. :eek:

u can use nitrous in the middle of a race, ive done it, ive ridden with people thatve done it. if u have a kit that relies on throttle pressure, such as the zex everyone has around here, u just flip the arming switch in the middle of the race. leaving it on from the start will cause massive wheelspin, most people here dont arm it until well into 2nd gear, i only know 2 who use it in 1st, one of whom has an auto civic dx that doesnt have to worry about wheelspin even WITH nitrous.
Originally posted by NickEXR
just thought id let yal know whats real and whats not

NickEXR
also, a supra (or any other car for that matter) cannot be an na single turbo like u said

"i need nohhhsss!!" "my car topped at 140 today"" lol...

well...as far as the movie goes...all the nos tanks and stuff were show...
not all those cars were really equipped with 'nawws'. Like for instance,
notice how all of them had the buttons on the steering wheel? and many
of them looked the same...like at the 'race wars' scene...the s2000 had
the same nitrous controls as the 240sx...

anyway...most of those cars were just show cars...the guy that did the
movie commented on that somewhere...that he wanted to use show
cars instead of cars that really were fast, because they just look so
much better...

most of the cars that i have seen that are really really fast...the owners
really don't concern themselves with image...there ARE those who have
show cars that are also fast...but this requires mucho mucho $$$

anyway...this thread is going in a million directions at once...

hmm...so using nitrous off a launch i would suppose could mess things
up for you...like first gear would just skyrocket to like a million rpms
and blow your motor...then like Dom says "now we'll have to take apart
the block to replace those piston rings you just fried" hahaha...
excuse my lack of motor knowledge, but do you really have to open
up the block to replace rings?

ok...so from what i have read...you can get simple nitrous kits that
will engage only during wide open throttle...i guess somehow they're
hooked up to the throttle plate...

alright...so someone was asking about a 10 second eclipse in street
trim?
i believe steve buschur (www.buschurracing.com) has a DSM in street
trim that does 10 or less...he's also got a funnycar lookin talon thingey
that's rwd and has a steel tube frame and does 9's or 8's or something
but it's still using the 4G63 motor...and i think it's horizontally mounted
or something...but that's no longer an eclipse...just has the motor and
some of the body panels...check their project cars section...and you'll
see a first generation(1990-1994) DSM that's all done up...pretty
neat...ok...it's a 1991 talon tsi awd...here's the link for the
stats...it's 10.5 in the 1/4 mile@133mph, street tires...
http://www.buschurracing.com/buschur/BRwebsite.nsf/Buschur%20Racing%202000%20Project%20Car?OpenPage

that same car also had a more recent run at 10.03 @ 139.24
i'm not sure if that was street tires tho...
but, it was WITHOUT nitrous

About taking the piston rings out you not take apart a block the block is the big chunk of aluminum or cast iron that everything else bolts to it is solid and can't really be taken apart. you do however have to remove the heads and unbolt your pistons from your crank and a bunch of other crap that takes a lot of time. the statement would only be correct if for whatever reason you consiter heads and the other stuff to by part of the "block". I also agree, this thread has gotten confused along the way and it's not even much about the movie anymore, which is OK too. :)

Yah, once I get a car (after school, I guess:( ), I will not concern myself with looks. Once I get rich, then I might. But I don't care if it is ugly, if it can smoke you like a cheap cigar, then I'll take that one.

377...

all i said was that you were talking about a turbo car while he was talking n/a.
and the na 2100 was a typo. im not that stupid to forget what i was talking about.
the na 900hp sounds a little far fetched, but i wouldnt be surprised.

Good movie. Lotta crap. Anyone notice the supposedly 10 second Eclipse running beasty turbo and nawwwws had an incredible amount of traction for street tyres. BS.

R34 Skylines cost $140,000 Brand New Here. Thats less then $70,000 US.
Supra's are a dime a dozen.
I notice that no one has mentioned the Subaru Impreza STI in the movie. Impreza leaves the local Holden Commodore with 5.7ltr Chev engine for dead in a 1/4 mile. Mitsibushi Lancer Evolution Vll would do the same also.
We dont have many Dodge Vipers, Mustangs, Chevs etc. but plenty of Honda's, Mazdas etc.
Skyline GTR R34 V-Spec Kicks Ass!!!!!
Ford and Holden (GMC) were beaten by the the Skyline GTR in the Australian Supercar series. Sad thing was that the Skyline was a 2.6 ltr 6 and the Holden and Fords were 5 ltr V8's.

Just thought id share that with u.

Hell yea the R34 is bad ass, to bad it didn't get much play time. There's a car that you can say fuck drag racing, lets take it to the streets when yer in it.
I think Motorex wants 80k US for um. But their cheap everywere else, like 30k US for an R33 V-spec in NZ.

Originally posted by gwappo
R34 Skylines cost $140,000 Brand New Here. Thats less then $70,000 US.
Supra's are a dime a dozen.
I notice that no one has mentioned the Subaru Impreza STI in the movie. Impreza leaves the local Holden Commodore with 5.7ltr Chev engine for dead in a 1/4 mile. Mitsibushi Lancer Evolution Vll would do the same also.
We dont have many Dodge Vipers, Mustangs, Chevs etc. but plenty of Honda's, Mazdas etc.
Skyline GTR R34 V-Spec Kicks Ass!!!!!
Ford and Holden (GMC) were beaten by the the Skyline GTR in the Australian Supercar series. Sad thing was that the Skyline was a 2.6 ltr 6 and the Holden and Fords were 5 ltr V8's.

Just thought id share that with u.

Jeez. You're an idiot. I'm as big a fan of rexies and lancer evo's as the next guy, but you've got it all backwards. The place the old-school V8s shine is in a straight line because they can't get their lard asses around corners. The place AWD turbo four's shine is blasting along in second gear on a windy road. An STi runs a high 14 second ET in standard trim and a commo GT-S (and I hate them) runs mid 13 ET.

Well I thought it was a fairly good movie. It was definatly better than "Gone in 60 Seconds." As for what Morpheus put down on his nit picks I got a few things for him.

Nitrous Oxide is gas. It is flamable (duh). And since they compress it in the containers I assure you it will explode. The color of the the flame depends on how hot it is, but I think your write it probably should be white.

My Uncle is a Trucker and you couldn't fit a civic underneath if tried. But what they most likely did was jack the trucks up just like Hics do to pickups.

I personally liked the Supra, just because I am a big Toyota fan and Celica and Supras especially. I am NOT a rice boy though.

Nissian 240SX's are cool. My dad has one. Oh has anyone heard of enjuko racing I most likely spelled it wrong so if you could tell me how to spell it right I'd appreciate it.


Atemis Entreri

Nitrous Oxide is NOT flammable man. Get real it's an oxidant. Go learn your chemistry. :D :D :D

so, since its an oxidant, does this mean its gonna catalyze the burning effect?! not explode or burn more, but speed up the burning process?

excuse my ignorance of the subject, haha, im just in high school chemistry, but i really wanna learn, coz i love this kinda stuff

sorry about that man. My mistake.

an sti will run faster than i high 14 in stock trim. my 2.5 liter impreza runs low 15s sometimes high 14s with just an intake, youre telling me the sti with 100 more hp is barely half a second faster at most?

hahahahahahahah omg do u people know nothing bout torque? that's what would make a charger go up like that. and im sorry supra's r slow compared to suped up 3000gt's, and civic's just stink. the only reason i didnt like the movie that much was cause of that tard paul walker, he cant act his way out of a paper bag. but my fav car was the rx-7......they be nice. im not a supra person....but that detroit steel would kick the shit out of a supra......and dont u member that he used laughing gas against it..........wich would be totally fake....he would blow out the engine......and i thought the race was suposed to be 9 sec. did that confuse n e 1?