Civics Kick Ass

Ok as for the price it is only fair to compare them in the U.S. I lived in France for 3 months and was surprised all taxis were Benzs and Audi's until it was explianed they are dirt cheap in Europe. So if you start looking at what u pay for the cars u listed vs. STS in america the STS is a deal. As for turning your wrong, just as a base Taurus cant turn worth shit and Taurus SHO will outurn integras,maximas,etc.., Same thing happens here the STS has a handling package and it will turn better than you think

Taurus SHO out turn a Type R.....hmm......hold on i just fell over laughing let me get back up

what GTSTANG meant was that, think of a taurus handling package as a MAX se. in straight line it will pretty much kill every honda, but the standard max aren't great handlers. but if you get it in SE trim it will handle better then you would expect from a car of htat size. same thing with the taurus. even though i know nothing abuot this car, but i think this is what GTSTANG meant. i'm almost positive.

Thanks TATII that is what i meant and it will out turn an Integra too. I dunno bout Type R and I said nothing of it but if it has the same set-up as a stock Integra it will. The SHO has better skid pad and slalom numbers than a stock integra.

no prob gtstang. well all have our preferences. even i do respect some american cars, the camero SS or the Z06 in particular, i still chose JDM cars over them. i don't disrespect american muscle in anyway, csaue you could get a 320hp car for only 25,000. but i'd still pick my imports. heh. not just any cheap ones though, i mean if i had a choice of a civic or a integra to a mustang or a camaro? noooooo contest. american muscle all the way. but if its between a rx-7, gt-r, evo, or nsx, to a Z06 or a viper? i would pick the super JDM's over them. its all a matter of preference.

Ok.....dont get me started GTSTANG.......those ford Taurus SHO things cost way more then a normal integra, your comparing a 27k car to a 17k integra, get a 24k GSR and it will spank a Taurus SHO on and off track. So thats basically a dumb comparison, care to try again?:confused:

SHO's were faster from 89 to 94 than a Maxima,

but when the Maxima came out in 95, it was faster

than a SHO. The 96 SHO took a crap with the V-8

and the Automatic, which let Maximas beat them even more.:wave:

Well Said Joe:D

Originally posted by joeB
SHO's were faster from 89 to 94 than a Maxima,

but when the Maxima came out in 95, it was faster

than a SHO. The 96 SHO took a crap with the V-8

and the Automatic, which let Maximas beat them even more.:wave:

the most recent SHO's with the 3.5L V8s was more like the oldsmobile aurora. not really anything of a sports sedan, much more of a touring sedan than anything. it failed miserably. but the SHO's prior to that were pretty quick.

as far as picking between a z06 and an rx-7 or supra, it'd be a hard decision. have you driven a z06 before? those things are damn fast. it may lack the refinement and fit and finish of the japanese counterparts, but when it comes down to pure no-nonsense power, the z06 is hard to beat. especially for its price.

I'm sure the Z06 lacks some of the refinement of some of the other cars you mentioned, but that's kind of the point. :)

Build quality on the Vettes is generally extremely good. The only problem with the car is that at some point you will probably have to deal with a Chevy dealer which just sucks.

The comparison was not an SHO vs Integra. It was how a previously larger car with shitty handling can be improved cuz the car manufacturer wants sportier intentions. As in te SLS versus the improvement in a STS. Also A 92'-95 SHO will beat down a Maxima SE and out turn it. But I'd like to say something bout people saying american cars can't turn. I have heard lots of my import driving friends say this to me and I have no problem keep up with them in turns. I give that there skipad might be .2-.3 better than mine but if you think that will make you just pull away np your wrong. And after that lil lead you got your gonna lose cuz after all the turns there will always be a striaght away

hmm......ok race an m3 and a gt stang. BYE BYE Mustang.....as much as I love how a GT can slam your head back on teh head rest and make you smile while you fly.....it handles like shit and its American so it aint all that.

Originally posted by GTStang
As for turning your wrong, just as a base Taurus cant turn worth shit and Taurus SHO will outurn integras,maximas,etc..,
All I am gonna say is:

SHO.........................POWERED BY YAMAHA!!!!!:p

I know, these guys swear SHO does shit for those cars.....every ford I see that is SHO looks like shi******************t......i mean its like american cars wear so bad.....all old import cars look good still. I guess its either people who own american cars take bad care of them or they just are crapy from the start.

The 95 and on Maximas are still faster than sho's.

Yes cuz an M3 and a GT Mustang cost the same amount so they should def be compared... Hell lets compare how it turns compared to a Ferrari next!
I'm sure a civic, Integra, Eclispe will turn with the M3 unlike the mustang right?

It is a Yahama V6 great motor never said it was an american engine but the suspension is and that was what i was talking bout. Also in 95 the SHO was still fatser 96 is when the Maximas were better.

No idea what you were just talking about.

In 95 the five speed Maxima SE got car of the year

from Motor Trend, and that is the year it was faster to now

than a SHO.:rolleyes:

Ok where is this going now, we know nissan is better then ford =)

I think that unlike the sedan the Accord Coupe is ugly; that silly front-end and that fat rear-end higher than in the Echo!:D

Yeah my dad said the same thing, but what I have to say is your one to talk, you have a FORD FOCUS.......one of the ugliest cars in production, almost as bad as a Aztec :D

Originally posted by JBL85
Yeah my dad said the same thing, but what I have to say is your one to talk, you have a FORD FOCUS.......one of the ugliest cars in production, almost as bad as a Aztec :D

Well then people has to be blind to buy it so much cause is the #1 or 2 best selling vehicle in the world. :D
i really like it anyways. :rolleyes:

Maybe they buy the Focus because it has a low price, and

its an ecomony car. I dont like the 2 door, but the 4 door

is nice. :)

Many people are buying this car it's great and it has many aftermarket part's for sale and many that are still to come.This car look's great and it's better then a ford foucs!!!!!!!

check this pic out at:http://www.roadraceengineering.com/rreimages/sema2001/

look at dsc00930.jpg to dsc00947.jpg at this link for nice PICS:smoka:

yeah sorry for bashing on it, some guy I am not too fond of has one and thinks its the coolest thing....he dropped all this money into and its slow as shit....so yeah 4 doors are ok but the 2 door looks like an egg, kind of like my RX300

there is no such thing as a 2 door lancer.there all 4door.and there better than a civic .with only $1600 i got it too 170hp and i have killed some many cars with theses car for exsample a celica gt-s 2002

[QUOTE]Originally posted by lanceroz17
there is no such thing as a 2 door lancer.there all 4door.and there better than a civic .with only $1600 i got it too 170hp and i have killed some many cars with theses car for exsample a celica gt-s 2002 [/
QUOTE]

me and my sister went out today looking for her a car,

and we noticed the Lancer oz it looked really awesome.

What kinda mods you have on it? You like it so far? :)

How do you get 50hp out of 1600 bucks.....i mean I could shoot nos and get well over 200hp.....but nos burns your motor up after awhile of use

Well I was wondering that too JBL.

Originally posted by JBL85
Yeah my dad said the same thing, but what I have to say is your one to talk, you have a FORD FOCUS.......one of the ugliest cars in production, almost as bad as a Aztec :D

don't you mean ass-tec?

i got a Quad Throttle Body and magnaflow custom exhast,headers,Haltech Engine Computers,sparkplug wires ,that's cost 2189.

haha.....whatever it is, its sorry lookin mofo

Imports are shit.No import can beat a good old Amerian muscle car.Hondas shitty Jap cars and there ugly as hell.I would never buy one.:flipa: I have a 1990 Coupe Cadillac DeVille.I challenged a kid at my high school and his 1998 Honda Civic.He has this thing all souped up. I have never put anything in my Caddy but a system.DeVilles arent even muscle cars and I left this kid in the dust,smoked him.:flipa: to the kid I smoked!

Copperhed - you are an idiot. I love muscle cars, but you are too close minded. Some imports will beat some muscle cars, and some muscle cars will be some imports. B/c you beat one import (an economy car) you believe that all imports are slow, crappy cars? You are just the same as those people who say "demestics suck, imports will always rule". So for the sake of everyone who is not a complete idiot, please don't open your mouth (or should i say, make posts like these). Thanks.



p.s. Just trying to avoid the endless, annoying debates over imports vs. domestics, in which all of the idiots come out of the woodworks.

Originally posted by lanceroz17
i got a Quad Throttle Body and magnaflow custom exhast,headers,Haltech Engine Computers,sparkplug wires ,that's cost 2189.

Would you post pics of it?

We made a conclusion, my friends and I have argued far to long....

The DODGE VIPER TWIN TURBO is the fastest PRODUCTION CAR in the WORLD. We looked for other cars that could compare and the only other was an import called a McLaren F1 which does a 1/4 in the 11 second range. Its skid pad is about 1.02 G's. The Dodge could do the 1/4 in the 10 second range and had a skidpad of .99. After finding this and not being able to find any other import that could compare both on street and track we found americans made the fastest car. So in the end muscle owns import stock for stock. :D

THANK YOU so much JBL85
Dodge Vipers are the faster production cars on the market today and only the McLarren F1 would have a chance against it.
You are totally ,100%,correct

Actually the McLaren F1 can go from 0-100-0 in just under 12 seconds. So its quarter mile time has to be less than 11 seconds.

Actually thats BS, A car can do a 1/4 at 120mph and still be doing it in 13 seconds, its all about the gears and how much speed it picks up at a givin time. So it can go that fast, but it might do a 1/4 in 11 seconds at 110

thats all I have to say

Bleh. Hennessy Viper? Bah! '02 Lingenfelter Corvette Twin Turbo.
Fully street legal.
A test by Motortrend:
0 - 30 : 0.83
0 - 40 : 1.20
0 - 50 : 1.59
0 - 60 : 1.97
0 - 70 : 2.44
0 - 80 : 3.06
0 - 90 : 3.67
0 - 100 : 4.33
0 - 150 : 9.21
Quarter mile, sec / mph : 9.24/150.27
0 - 100 - 0, sec : 8.75
Braking, 60 - 0 mph, ft : 108
Skidpad, g : 1.01
Top speed : 240 (est)
No lie, no typo. Sorry Hennessey.

wow...

Now if Chevy made THAT there production vehicle the Muscle Cars wars would have been overwith a long time ago...

Yeah, hence hte fact that its not production, but that is what americans are capable off......wait a second, so are japanese, they have 9 second skylines to. Dont forget the whole point of me saying Hennessy was production car

Originally posted by lloyd_nickens
wow...

Now if Chevy made THAT there production vehicle the Muscle Cars wars would have been overwith a long time ago...

Could you imagine trying to keep a beast like that under control? People would be launching themselves across streets and through buildings trying to pull out into traffic to quickly.

First of all Yes i'm a girl but i do just a little bit a about cars too:flash: I just got back from Japan where i drove a Civic type-R, the real one, the ones that they don't sell in the states no matter what automotive parts store people get their type-R emblems from. It was a used 97 civic type-R and i have to say it was good damn car, but of course i had to sell it when i came to the states. Now i'm driving my 98 mustang, which i just adore, My point is this, every car, foregin or domestic has something infamous about it, every car at one point has been out rated. meaning that people just talked about the car to much and it was probaly a good car, but hey it's just a car. Every likes certain cars for a certain reason, but every car has it's own perks and no car completly sucks. Just because you beat one civic (for those domestic owners) or one Mustang (for those foregin owner) doesn't mean that your car can beat any civic or any mustang, depends upon a multiple amount of things. So chill out on the "your car sucks" ordeal, you have your own divine right, but let's be adult like here, and as far as the viper things goes. the mclauren is faster, it has BMW V-12 with so many different mods. It's true!
Love ya!

Originally posted by 98MustangGirlie
but let's be adult like here, and as far as the viper things goes. the mclauren is faster, it has BMW V-12 with so many different mods. It's true!
Love ya!

Everything you said until there was good. Viper modded will FUCK up a Mclaren. :D

Then we are gonna get into this comparision of well if I do this to my F1 it can do this, look at the price, Viper is Sub 100k and F1 is a Million dollars, Ill take a viper any day and keep the cash in my pocket

Is that your Altima JBL? Looks sweeet.
Got any more pics? What kinda headlights
did you put in?
Later:) :D

Hey Joe, Yeah its mine. Those are Hella 8000K HID's.

I cant Edit that post, sorry its a ditto image :)

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I just read the last two pages so I dont know if this has been addressed, but ligenwhatzit and hennesy are not production cars. Unless they come like that from the factory, its not production. The McLaren F1, though only about 50 were made, was made by mclaren from scratch, except for the bmw engine. Therefore it is a production vehicle.

Now a MODDED viper would probably win against a STOCK mclaren, if your talking about a straight line. However, even a 1000hp viper would lose to a mclaren on a track.

nice pics
how much were those headlights?
later....:) :D

that's whack, civics are slow. i'm sorry but if you notice, when you look at mostly any "kill list" forum, they all say "too many civics to count." why, you ask? because they are like practice on the novice corse for street racing. all that aside, doesn't mercedes make the V-12 for the mclaren?

Originally posted by hondasuck
doesn't mercedes make the V-12 for the mclaren?

Its BMW.

And only the US Spec Civic's are slow. The rest of the world gets some screamers.

civics are alright, i give any homie props with a civic, but accords to seem look a bit nicer

Originally posted by Moppie



And only the US Spec Civic's are slow. The rest of the world gets some screamers.

fair enough, i resign my previous generalization, US spec civics are played out by everyone and their mother, and down here in SoFLA, if you got a civic with a fart can ($20) some knockoff altezzas ($40 ebay style) and some tenzo's... you got yourself a "dope ride", hell i don't even drive and i would rather walk then drive one of those for sheer unorigionality factor, get my licence in 2 months, have NO CLUE what i'm getting, but anyway, sorry for being vague, good lookin' out everyone...

Originally posted by hondasuck
that's whack, civics are slow. i'm sorry but if you notice, when you look at mostly any "kill list" forum, they all say "too many civics to count." why, you ask? because they are like practice on the novice corse for street racing. all that aside, doesn't mercedes make the V-12 for the mclaren?
what kind of car do you drive? and I know lots of ppl with really fast civic's in here, and not all american civic's are slow.

Originally posted by SkunkSI

what kind of car do you drive? and I know lots of ppl with really fast civic's in here, and not all american civic's are slow.


He dosn't. Infact he dosnt even have a his license yet.
He's as about as qualified to comment on cars as I am on Brain Surgery.

Originally posted by Moppie

He dosn't. Infact he dosnt even have a his license yet.
He's as about as qualified to comment on cars as I am on Brain Surgery.

Since when has "qualified" been a prerequisite for stating ones opinion ;) :)