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DSM_tuner
05-11-2003, 10:46 PM
i was wondering if any one new what the fastest production car is?.The 3 cars that claim to be the fastest car are the dauer 962 , Bugatti Veyron , and the Koenigsegg CC. Ive heard the dauer 962 is the fastest but i dont know. And about the Bugatti Veyron , is that even a production car?

Jimster
05-12-2003, 05:01 AM
The Veryon hasn't hit production yet, the CC is the same- the Mclaren F1 still holds the title

YogsVR4
05-12-2003, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by Jimster
The Veryon hasn't hit production yet, the CC is the same- the Mclaren F1 still holds the title

I've heard other claims of faster cars but I've not read of a production model faster then the F1 either.

SuPeRcAr_MaN
05-12-2003, 03:58 PM
I've heard the same. I even have a McLaren pster that reads: 'The Fastest Road Car Ever.' Speeds exceeding 230, right? Pretty impressive.

207010
05-22-2003, 02:16 AM
i think that it is the tvr speed 12 but i dont know if theve tested it or if it is a production model:cool:

Stefanel1
05-22-2003, 07:14 AM
When the Bugatti Veyron will be make (arround 2005), it will be the faster procuction car in the world if I'm not wrong ;)

Jimster
05-23-2003, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by 207010
i think that it is the tvr speed 12 but i dont know if theve tested it or if it is a production model:cool:


Nah-0 TVR couldn't afford to continue with it- so they canned it:(

AirAllen01
05-23-2003, 09:25 AM
I would go with the McLaren F1 has the fastest top speed, but the fastest accelerating car in the world is the Viper Venom 800 Twin Turbo with 0-60 times of 2.2 seconds. The Camaro ZL-1 accelerates 0-60 at 2.3 seconds.

Deakins
05-23-2003, 09:50 AM
The Koenigsegg is in production, i'm not sure how many they have made yet, but they are on the road.

Stefanel1
05-23-2003, 12:24 PM
Has been the Camaro and Viper sold (in these versions )?
and a so big engine on a Camaro, I'm affraid by the corners !!!! :D

Chris
05-23-2003, 02:05 PM
Well, currently, the Mclaren holds the record at 242mph. There is a video and audio file avaible... (390, 391..................391..............392!........ ....thats all she'll do, 392 km/h....still mighty impressive isnt it?).
The Veyron is promising a top speed of 406km/h (252mph), but, that remains to be seen still.
The Koneiggsegg CC promises at 220+mph top speed, but, Ive not heard of this being independently verified as of yet.

AirAllen01
05-23-2003, 03:00 PM
Both the Viper and Camaro have been sold in this version, but you have to call certain people and have it made before you buy. The Camaro ZL-1 was the one that was put up against a 99 Mustang Boss on TNN as a battle of which was the better car. The Boss won by like .2 of a second, but the Boss had slicks while the ZL-1 had street tires. Also, the ZL-1 boasts a high 238 mph. Another thing, I saw a 92 Vette (probably lying) saying it could go in excess of 265 mph. This was seen in a Duponte Registry Magazine.

jsb88
06-02-2003, 01:21 PM
Cars With The Highest Top Speed
Car
2003 Dodge Tomahawk Concept
1987 Oldsmobile Aerotech
1988 Callaway Sledgehammer Corvette
2003 Bugatti 16/4 Veyron
*** 1994 Dauer 962 Le Mans *** - Fastest production car
2001 Jun Akira Supra
2001 Lotec Sirius
1998 SVS Stryker Twin-Turbo Viper
2001 Koenigsegg CC
2001 Lingenfelter 427 Corvette TT
2000 TVR Speed 12
1973 Porsche 917/30
1998 Ferrari F50 GT
1995 Jimenez Novia Concept
1995 Ford GT90 Concept
1991 Koenig C62
1997 Sportec 911 GT1
1991 Lotec C1000
1995 Koenig Ferrari F50
1997 McLaren F1
1994 Dauer EB110 SS
2001 Hennessey Venom 800TT
1987 Ferrari GT Evoluzione
1994 Jaguar XJ220S TWR
1993 Ferrari 333 SP

I believe that no one ever entered the dauer 962 for the record top speed, and maybe it did not qualify due to the low numbers made, I cant quite remember, but it was less than 20 and maybe less than ten.

SolTheHoelessPimp
06-02-2003, 02:29 PM
20 or 10 is a limited run, or limited run race car it seems, the mclaren is a full production car.

Crazysnoracer
06-30-2003, 01:48 PM
Ok i have solved all of your fighting i did some reseach and this is what i came up with:

corvette sledgehammer: 255 mph
bugatti eb 16 /4veyron: 252 mph
Dauer 962: 250 mph
Vector Avtech WX-3: 249 mph
koenigsegg CC: 240 mph
Tvr speed 12: 240 mph
McLarin F1: 240 mph
ferrari koenig racing evelution: 230 mph
Hennessey viper venom: 225- 230 mph
lamborghini VTTT: 223 mph

(note the person who said the tomahawk was the fastest, it is not a car it is a motorcycle but if it was it would but the fastest becasue it goes 300 mph plus)

So the person who said the sledgehammer was the fastest you are correct

ex42_25
07-12-2003, 02:27 AM
( The Vw Nardo comes out it drives up to 350 kilometers in the hour and accelerates in only 3.5 seconds of 0 to 100 kilometers per hour: The Nardo W12 Coupé belongs since short to the fastest cars of the world) quotes Volks wagen A.G Germany.

:eek:

Chris
07-12-2003, 12:20 PM
350 km/h is about 215mph.

KoenigseggCC
07-13-2003, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by Crazysnoracer
Ok i have solved all of your fighting i did some reseach and this is what i came up with:

corvette sledgehammer: 255 mph
bugatti eb 16 /4veyron: 252 mph
Dauer 962: 250 mph
Vector Avtech WX-3: 249 mph
koenigsegg CC: 240 mph
Tvr speed 12: 240 mph
McLarin F1: 240 mph
ferrari koenig racing evelution: 230 mph
Hennessey viper venom: 225- 230 mph
lamborghini VTTT: 223 mph

So the person who said the sledgehammer was the fastest you are correct

Very good except the original question was "Fastest Production Car" and since they only ever made one Callaway Corvette sledgehammer it doesn't qualify as production. it is the "worlds fasted street-legal car"

There is no way that the vector WX-3 :puke: can achieve 249 mph, go look in the Vector forums even people who like the car say it can't get that speed.

The TVR speed 12 was never officially made, although there is stories about if you give Peter Wheeler (the boss of TVR) enough cash they will build one for you, but thats just a rumor

The Bugatti thing hasn't been tested yet (I don't think?) and so all the numbers quoted for it are just manufacturer claims.

The Koenigsegg CC is in production and customer cars have already been delivered, but they haven't tested the top speed yet so all top speeds you hear are just claims again.....

So the Mclaren F1 is still the worlds fastest PRODUCTION car. :biggrin:

'Segg :cool:

Hudson
07-16-2003, 11:21 AM
I agree. Of that list, the only series production vehicle that has been actually tested is the McLaren F1. The Bugatti should be in production shortly. The Vector was only a theory since the WX3 was only a concept car (actually, a pair of them). They never produced the Speed 12 for the street. The Koenigsegg has gotten some press but I have yet to hear of anyone actually driving one near 200 mph or of any production numbers. Same with the Dauer. And the rest are just tuner cars, not production cars.

KoenigseggCC
07-16-2003, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by Hudson
I agree. Of that list, the only series production vehicle that has been actually tested is the McLaren F1. The Bugatti should be in production shortly. The Vector was only a theory since the WX3 was only a concept car (actually, a pair of them). They never produced the Speed 12 for the street. The Koenigsegg has gotten some press but I have yet to hear of anyone actually driving one near 200 mph or of any production numbers. Same with the Dauer. And the rest are just tuner cars, not production cars.
They have done some high speed testing of the Koenigsegg up to 365 km/h (226 mph) details are on the Koenigsegg website (http://www.koenigsegg.com) Also Top Gear here in England did a high speed run in the car and got 280 km/h (174 mph) if you wanna see for yourself the video of it is here

Top Gear Koenigsegg (http://www.polarisuk.com/video/videos.htm)

Nobody has done an official high speed run yet so the top speed is still unclear.

'Segg :cool:

Hudson
07-17-2003, 10:01 AM
I never trust "factory claims"...and the Top Gear test claims a speed of 174 mph, backing up my thought. I'm also looking for a (non-factory) claim of how many have been produced.

KoenigseggCC
07-17-2003, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by Hudson
I never trust "factory claims"...and the Top Gear test claims a speed of 174 mph, backing up my thought. I'm also looking for a (non-factory) claim of how many have been produced.
Yep, your right, you should never trust factory claims (the Vector WX-3 is proof of that) the 226 Mph is unofficial factory figures for the first high speed test, since I doubt they have produced enough cars yet to be called "production" there is no point in doing an official timed top speed run.

If you watch the video on the link you will see/hear that Top Gear only got 174 mph because they were using an old runway and so ran out of space before the cars top speed was reached (the Pagani Zonda got 170 mph on the same track)

and as for production numbers I have no idea "not many" would be my guess :biggrin: :iceslolan as far as I know no official or unofficial production numbers exist. How many cars do you have to make/sell to be called production? 50? 100? does anybody know the real figure? or know where I could find out? :confused:

Regards,
'Segg :cool:

1320B4U
07-17-2003, 01:39 PM
For fastest acceleration and top speed I think its the Ferrari Enzo. 0-60 in 3.2sec, 0-100 in 6.6sec, top speed 218mph, 1/4 in 11.1@133mph, 1.0+g on the skidpad, 73mph through the slalom.

McLaren this, Mclaren that. Never like the car personally, except maybe the LM limited version. So the Enzo kills the McLaren in every acceleration, braking, and handing test. Now everyone thinks the McLaren will do 240mph+. I saw a video clip from within the McLaren, but speedos can be optimistc. Road&Track tested it in the August 1998 issue, with Mario Andretti piloting it.

"Overall, a very impressive car. But I was really surprised by how aerodynamically unstable it was. Absolutely unstable. I was taking the corners at about 200mph, but probably could have taken them quite a bit quicker if the back end hadn't wanted to keep hanging itself out. This really caught me by surprise. I never thought it was going to move around the way it did. Also, the speedometer was really optimistic, indicating that I had hit 240mph, when I was really only going 217. Nevertheless, it's the only car that I actually had to use the brakes before going into the corners to feel safe. That was a scary 217."
-Mario Andretti

PS+ Speeds were recorded via radar.

Twyzz
07-24-2003, 10:27 AM
Sledgehammer corvette is the fastest production car 255+
The ligenfelter Corvette is the quickest, 0-60 in 1.8. (download some videos of one beating a fighter jet in the 1/4)

American cars own you.

SolTheHoelessPimp
07-24-2003, 02:33 PM
the sledgehammer is not a stock production car, it's a tuner car.

Hudson
07-24-2003, 02:51 PM
If the vehicle has "Corvette" in the name...and something other than "Chevrolet" before it...it's not "production."

1320B4U
07-24-2003, 04:23 PM
"American cars own you."

Corvette:
Overly large untuned engine, uses too much fuel, atrocious interiors (all: seats, gauges, shifter, plastics, batmobile-like), cartoonish bodies.

If you had 50K to blow on a car how could you not choose an M3. Or even a slightly used 911.

SolTheHoelessPimp
07-24-2003, 04:30 PM
opinions are like assholes, unless you want it raped, keep it to yourself.

1320B4U
07-24-2003, 08:53 PM
If you have ever drove one (or even set in one) you would know its a fact, unless of course your one of these stupid people that refuse to look at the facts and purchased one, only to be dumbfounded when they decided to sell their "Corvette" two years later and couldn't get 30K for it.

Hudson
07-25-2003, 08:56 AM
I am the last person anyone would call a "GM fan"...but the Corvette is an exceptional car. Since the 1997 redesign, the Corvette has become a world-class player again. Performance is extrodinary for the price and the quality of the interior isn't as bad as some have made it out to be. The car is docile around town and can move when prodded. And, oddly enough, the gas mileage isn't bad at all. Reselling a 2 year old car for 70% of its initial MSRP is a good deal.

Kerbie
07-27-2003, 05:14 PM
The specially developed gearbox by Cima relies heavily on experience from racing, especially Formula One. The 6-speed gearbox is probably the strongest and most reliable transaxle gearbox ever built for a mid engine car. The gearbox incorporates an internal oil pump for reliable lubrication, and a large oil cooler, so that it can take the strain from the brutal force of the engine. The final gear ratio is calculated to propel the car close to 400 km/h at 7300 rpm.


That is directly from www.koenigsegg.com


400 km/h = 248.4mph
not quite the 252 of the veyron, but thats not out yet, whereas the cc is out. However they have not yet tested it at such high speeds due to weather restraints during testing (it started to rain while doing thier run).

Hudson
07-28-2003, 01:11 PM
You missed the term "calculated"...I'd bet against it coming within 20 mph of that speed.

longlivetheZ
09-03-2003, 02:43 PM
Guys...title of post is "Fastest Production Car"...some of the cars you guys are talking about are far from production cars. Most are specialty cars (Viper Venom, Corvette Callaway...cars like that) which are produced individually for people AFTER the person has already bought the PRODUCTION car. The car didn't roll off the lot like that. The fastest production car (car that ROLLED OFF THE LOT in the state that it was tested in) is the McLaren F1 LM. It is by far the perfect car in many ways. A recent opponent to the McLaren has been the Ferrari Enzo. The Enzo is arguably the new posessor of this title. Car & Driver and/or Road & Track (don't remember which...maybe both...I forget) did articles on the Enzo which compared it very closely to the McLaren.

Gull-Wing
09-06-2003, 01:50 PM
Sledgehammer corvette is the fastest production car 255+
The ligenfelter Corvette is the quickest, 0-60 in 1.8. (download some videos of one beating a fighter jet in the 1/4)

American cars own you.

Where did you find out about the 0-60 in 1.8?

farbod
09-07-2003, 08:23 AM
the kionensoggeg (i have no idea how to spell it ) is clamed to be 248 mph but no one has proved it yeh and it is nomatch to the buggati veyrons 1001bhp 0-62 in 3.2 seconds and 0-300kpm in 14 seconds flat
now beet that

Menu dei Motori
09-07-2003, 08:30 AM
Koenigsegg :smooch:
and bugatti

farbod
09-07-2003, 08:33 AM
ow yeh and one more thing on the koenigsegg's official website it clearly sais top speed 390kph and not 400kph

farbod
09-07-2003, 08:49 AM
which one would you go for



buggati :grinyes:

http://www.vwvortex.com/news/09_01/bugatti/01.jpg


or koenigsegg :shakehead

http://www.ciudadfutura.com/superautos/k/koenigsegg-cc01.jpg

KoenigseggCC
09-07-2003, 10:12 AM
:rolleyes: Okay lets get this straight again.....

The Mclaren F1 is still the fastest production car. and thats a standard roadcar, not the LM.

The F1 LM is lighter and has more power BUT (and this is a big but) they only made 5 of them and so isnt a production car, just a variant of the Roadcar, and the LM has shorter gear ratios like the GTR's to get faster acceleration but a lower top speed, got that?

Go to the McLaren Forum (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/f332/) and ask if you don't believe me.

And the Bugatti's lovely body causes stability problems at high speed :iceslolan
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/d/43622 (sorry, German only)

'Segg :cool:

farbod
09-07-2003, 11:42 AM
actualy the mclaren f1 is no longer the fastest the koenigsegg is faster
and the fastest at the moment but when the buggati veyron comes out it will be even faster

KoenigseggCC
09-07-2003, 12:11 PM
The Koenigsegg is only faster on paper, it hasn't done any official high speed runs and it hasn't gone faster than the Mclaren, and the top speed is just a factory claim with no proof to back it up, so the F1 is still the fastest. :p

and thats IF the Bugatti comes out. I'm glad you took time to read the link I posted :rolleyes:

'Segg :cool:

farbod
09-07-2003, 12:52 PM
fine look here are the top 13 fastest cars

1. 433 kph / 269.1 mph 1938 Mercedes-Benz W125 Record
2.409.9 kph / 254.7 mph 1988 Chevrolet Sledgehammer Corvette
3. 406 kph / 252.3 mph 2002 Bugatti 16/4 Veyron
4.403 kph / 250.4 mph 2001 Bugatti 16/4 Veyron Concept
5. 402.3 kph / 250.0 mph 1994 Dauer 962 LeMans
6.402.3 kph / 250.0 mph 1992 Vector WX3 Concept
7. 400 kph / 248.5 mph 2001 Lotec Sirius Concept
8.400 kph / 248.5 mph 1939 Mercedes-Benz W154 Record
9. 390 kph / 242.3 mph 2000 Koenigsegg CC
10.386.2 kph / 240.0 mph 2002 Koenigsegg CC 8S
11. 386.2 kph / 240.0 mph 1997 McLaren F1
12.386.2 kph / 240.0 mph 2000 TVR Cerbera Speed 12
13. 385 kph / 239.2 mph 2000 Lamborghini Diablo Coatl

look some of thiem are concepts and look the keonigsegg is faster and so is bugatti and for your information it is very UNLIKELY that the bugatti WONT COME OUT

KoenigseggCC
09-07-2003, 01:26 PM
Show me PROOF that the Koenigsegg has gone faster than the Mclaren. Not just some list you found on the net. I would love to see some hard evidence of it, I LOVE the Koenigsegg CC, I even got my screen name from it, but that does not blind me to the facts. :)

You wont be able to find proof because the Koenigsegg hasn't gone faster. it has done a high speed test up to 227 MPH. and thats all, they plan on doing a high speed run later. (I can give you MANY links to back this up)

The top speed Koenigsegg claim is a Calculated top speed and the car hasn't actually gone that fast, this is also true of the Bugatti. these are just manufacturer claims, and no independant test have been performed, unless you can give me some real evidence that they have gone faster.

And about the Veyron, the project is 18 MONTHS behind scehdule, maybe you have forgotten This thread? (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t132657.html) and the link I posted (http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/d/43622) which says it has major stability issues at high speed, (rough translation of page (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.auto-motor-und-sport.de%2Fd%2F43622&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&prev=%2Flanguage_tools)) and Bugatti has been aware of these problems for a year and the only solution would be a complete body re-design, but for now they are limiting the speed to 330 km/h (205 mph)

'Segg :cool:

(Where did you get that list from? I'd like to take a look at the source of it)

farbod
09-07-2003, 01:33 PM
thier is no proof but thier will be soon

the list is from www.supercars.netclick on top speed and it will have the 50 fastest cars

KoenigseggCC
09-07-2003, 01:56 PM
thier is no proof but thier will be soon

the list is from www.supercars.netclick on top speed and it will have the 50 fastest carsWe finally agree! :bananasmi There is no proof yet, I will be the first one celebrating IF the Koenigsegg CC does go faster than the other rivals. But I'm not gonna go around shouting my mouth off about it being the fastest yet until their is firm evidence that nobody can deny :D

I don't know if the high speed tests will be done soon, the last high speed tests they did were in 2002 (when they got 227 mph) and they said they were getting ready to do a high speed run later in the year, well its now late 2003 and there is still no high speed run :(

'Segg :cool:

farbod
09-07-2003, 02:34 PM
yeh well i am just hoping bugatti can fix thier problems because it is my favourite car
yeh mean while mclaren f1 is the fastest car but how long can it stay thet way 1 year,2 years, 3 years or even longer

Gull-Wing
09-07-2003, 05:03 PM
Lotec Sirius Specifications
Performance
0-60 3.7 seconds
Top Speed: 248.5 MPH
Engine
Twin Turbo V12
Horsepower: 1334
Torque: 1300 nm / 958.8 ft lbs @ 3400 rpm
Dimensions
Length: 162.2 in.
Width: 81.9 in.
Height: 44.1 in.
Weight: 2822 lbs.

Bugatti 16/4 Veyron Specifications
Performance
0-60 2.9 seconds
0-186: 14 seconds
Top Speed: 252 MPH
Engine W16
Horsepower: 1001
Torque: 1250.2 Nm/922 ft lbs @5500 rpm
Dimensions
Length: 175.8 in.
Width: 78.7 in.
Height: 47.5 in.
Weight: 4100 lbs

Lotec C1000 Specifications
Price:$575,000
Performance
0-60 3.2 seconds
Top Speed: 232.4 MPH
Engine Twin Turbo V8
Horsepower: 850
Torque: 980 nm / 722.8 ft lbs @ 3800 rpm
Dimensions
Length: 169.3 in.
Width: 78.7 in.
Height: 45.3 in.
Weight: 2381 lbs

TVR Speed 12 Specifications
Price: $245,000 Performance
0-60 2.5 Seconds(est.)
Top Speed: 240+
Engine 800 Horsepower V-12
Torque: 882 Nm @ 5750 rpm
Dimensions
Length: 169.3 in.
Width: 77.2 in.
Height: 43.3 in.
Weight: 2205 lbs

Mclaren F1 Specifications
Performance
Top Speed 240 mph
0 - 30 mph 1.7 seconds
0 - 60 mph 3.2 seconds
0 - ¼ mile 11.6 seconds
0 - 100 mph 7.7 seconds
Engine
V-12
Horsepower: 627
Torque: 649 Nm / 479 ft lbs @ 4000 RPM
Dimensions
Length: 168.8 in
Width: 71.7 in.
Height: 44.9 in.
Weight: 2840 lbs.

Did not have Koensegg specs, but obviously reading this thread, it is not clear which car is fastest, because lots of it is about skill in driving.

Straight from http://www.rapidcars.com/ (awsome site!!!)

farbod
09-08-2003, 11:15 AM
good point i agree

McLaren F1 Guy
09-08-2003, 03:54 PM
OK, this should stop the argument. I have sitting here my Guiness World Records 2003, and you can't argue with them, because this is official. The fastest production car is the McLaren F1 with a top speed of 240.1 mph, tested by Andy Wallace on on March 31st, 1998, at the Volkswagen Proving Ground in Wolfsburg, Germany.

For you who were wondering what the fastest 0-60 on a production car is, it is 3.07 seconds by the Ford RS200 Evolution.

farbod
09-09-2003, 10:20 AM
i dont think so

jsb88
09-09-2003, 11:27 AM
Well maybe the other car manufacturers havn't entered for a record? :2cents:

farbod
09-09-2003, 11:31 AM
a for can not have the fastest 0-60 time

Gull-Wing
09-09-2003, 05:23 PM
I think Andy races LeMans(or raced)

McLaren F1 Guy
09-09-2003, 08:09 PM
Well maybe the other car manufacturers havn't entered for a record? :2cents:
The other cars either
1. are not actually in production

or

2. Their top speed hasn't actually been tested ( this is most likely the case, because finding a straightaway that can carry the car up to over 240 mph is extremely rare, which is why the F1 was tested at the Volkswagen track, which has a really really long straightaway )

farbod
09-11-2003, 11:00 AM
but does the mclaren have the fastest exeleration ??????????
NO IT DOESENT

Yazza
09-16-2003, 01:37 PM
I dont mean to be disrespectable but for car enthusiasts i cant beleive that none of you knows one of the most important facts about cars. The last time i checked, a few months ago, this is what i came up with.

The Lamborghini Diablo VT holds the title at the moment. The reason being it is actually still in production and has a proven topspeed accaepted everywhere, hardly any, if one, of the cars the previous posts mentioned are or ever were in production. The koenigsegg could be the fastest, i have also seen stats on 227mph acheived, if this is so then the cc is the fastest, and yes it is a production car. The mclaren has gone out of production for years, so it no longer qualifies, it is however the fastest production car ever, which is why it is still in the guinness book of world records. The point about manufacterers not applying for the record is also correct. These people talking about the callaway and lingelfeter or whatever, you need a serious rethink, if you want to mention cars like that dont you think others could mention cars like the HKS drag skyline, Blitz Skyline, Top Secret Supra, Duaer 962 Le Mans, Lamborghini Diablo Coatl & loads others that were tested to very high speeds. A production car is available to any & everyone. So the Diablo is the king unless the koenigsegg has been confirmed @ 227mph which i think is highly likely, its a great car and i have no doubt it can reach the 247 predicted if not more.

P.S. someone needs to check out the Zonda S7.3 it acheived 220mph in private tests by someplace. Rumours are it cant acheive this without a special front wing? Also the Enzo is sposed to go 217mph.

farbod
09-16-2003, 01:46 PM
the bugatti has the fasest 0-60 but it still isnt in production yet so that doesnt count

Menu dei Motori
09-16-2003, 01:56 PM
the bugatti has the fasest 0-60 but it still isnt in production yet so that doesnt count

ähemm
can i correct you?


the power of the bugatti will be reduced cause
1. the car is unhandeble at speeds over 300
2. the power and torque are too much for the axle gear

McLaren F1 Guy
09-16-2003, 04:24 PM
Hey Yazza, wake up, this is 2003, and the Diablo is quite obviously out of production. Apparently when you said "a few months ago", it was more like "a few years ago". The only cars Lamborghini is currently making are the Murcielago and Gallardo. And it doesn't matter wether a car is out of production or still in production as long as it is considered as a production car. And Farbod, the Bugatti has not been officially tested. This is why you will find many different claims on different sites. You guys should hold in your claims that the Veyron is the fastest production car until it actually IS a production car, which will be delayed for around a year. McLaren F1 still holds the title!

farbod
09-16-2003, 04:40 PM
I NEVER SAID BUGATTI IS IN PRODUCTION I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE BUGATTI CONCEPT WHICH DOES O-60 IN 3.2 SECONDS NOT THE THE BUGATTI EB 16/4
(sorry i am realy streased out)


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