Fastest Production Car

i dont really care man, i am just sayin. I think it is the fastest production car right now. Other then the bugati veryon or whatever that thing is called starts being made this is the fastest that i know of. And the cc8s hauls some serious ass with "only" 655 hp can you imagine what 800 would feel like. Like i said before if its not 9 seconds flat then i would think it would be close.

Just thought I would throw in my 2 cents worth. The fastest car is the mclaren, it is the only one of these ones test that has been independently tested. As far as I know the speed reached was less then mclarens claim so no car company is total reliable. In terms of current production cars the murcielago is the fastest 'production' car. Most automotive journalists class a production car as one that you can just walk into a dealer and order one. This is something you can't do with many of these cars. This rules out cars such as the enzo and the likes because they are already sold before they are made.

the thing is you can just walk in the dealership in sweden (i think thats where it is) and buy a segg. And i have a hard time believeing that this wont beat a mclearn.

i think its faster than the mclaren too, but Koenigsegg hasn't let it get proven through independent testing....yet

yet is the keyword. They say it is more areo-dynamic and more powerful then the mclearn so i am sure it will beat it. But i wound not mind having both cars :)

Bare in mind the CCR is still a new car, only just heard about it in fact. The reason some cars havnet been top speed tested was the manufactures didnt realy care. I mean ferrari didnt want the enzo to have a high top speed just be quick around the track!..which is a sense is more sensible as there are only a hand full of places around the world which will let you do 240mph+ so why bother designing a car that can technically do over 240mph but in reality cant. I havent full gone through this thread but please say no one has suggested that the buggati veyron is the fastest car?..stupid if they have as it is 2 tons and bugatti said if the owners wish to drive over 200mph they will send them an extra pair of tyres because it puts so much strian on them to do it. Awful car in my opinoon and probably the way things are going wont get into production! :) ....the Koenigsegg gets my vote though!

Guys!

The fastest PRODUCTION CAR ever timed OFFICALLY is the McLaren F1!

There is NO other cars who have CERTIFIED PROOF of obtaining higher top speed as a PRODUCTION CAR!!! :banghead:

No need to babble and wabble about Corvettes. Vipers, Bugattis, blblablablablblalala....

There is faster cars out there, no doubt, but they have not OFFICALLY proven to be!!! :nono:

Imagine a McLaren with twin turbos and NOS for high-speed records! :iceslolan

Guys!

The fastest PRODUCTION CAR ever timed OFFICALLY is the McLaren F1!

There is NO other cars who have CERTIFIED PROOF of obtaining higher top speed as a PRODUCTION CAR!!! :banghead:

No need to babble and wabble about Corvettes. Vipers, Bugattis, blblablablablblalala....

There is faster cars out there, no doubt, but they have not OFFICALLY proven to be!!! :nono:

Imagine a McLaren with twin turbos and NOS for high-speed records! :iceslolan


hi, sorry if i´m wrong now or talking nonsence, but i always thaught that the topspeed of 251 mph of the dauer 962 lm were timed officially? probably i´m wrong!

No, you're not wrong in any way! :naughty:

The Dauer 962 is the fastest road legal car produced in more than 1 unit!
The McLaren is the fastest "roadcar" with a production status which require over 100 units!

Every car has the potnential to be lightining fast if you just spend enough $$ on it!

What matters is what performance it was given by the manufacturer!

i was wondering if any one new what the fastest production car is?.The 3 cars that claim to be the fastest car are the dauer 962 , Bugatti Veyron , and the Koenigsegg CC. Ive heard the dauer 962 is the fastest but i dont know. And about the Bugatti Veyron , is that even a production car?

the veyron goes into production in 05.

I would go with the McLaren F1 has the fastest top speed, but the fastest accelerating car in the world is the Viper Venom 800 Twin Turbo with 0-60 times of 2.2 seconds. The Camaro ZL-1 accelerates 0-60 at 2.3 seconds.

The Saab 9-3 Viggen hits 60 in 2.1 seconds. But it only tops out at 165.

What i think would be a great race is these cars on Nurburgring: TVR Cerbera Speed 12, McLaren F1, Koenigsegg CC V8S, Bugatti Veyron and a 911 GT1.

Buy Project Gotham 2, its the only place you could do that! I still think that its amazing that the McLaren still officially holds the top speed for a production car after over 10 years.

Guys!

The fastest PRODUCTION CAR ever timed OFFICALLY is the McLaren F1!

There is NO other cars who have CERTIFIED PROOF of obtaining higher top speed as a PRODUCTION CAR!!! :banghead:

No need to babble and wabble about Corvettes. Vipers, Bugattis, blblablablablblalala....

There is faster cars out there, no doubt, but they have not OFFICALLY proven to be!!! :nono:

Imagine a McLaren with twin turbos and NOS for high-speed records! :iceslolan

Ya, why don't you slap a couple turbos on the McLaren and watch the pistons detonate because the compression is too high.

The Mclaren f1 is the most amazing car ever made and the Swedeshave proven that. They feel they have to put 2 huge turbos on a v8 to make a massive 800bhp (just less than 200bhp more than the F1) to beat the Mclaren, i still think koenigsegg is the only compnay out their that wants the highest production car speed record, every othe manufacture is aiming at more practical feel and speed round a track. The F1 does it all, speed, looks, handling and i especialy love the LM version!...that would kill a enzo hands down in a straight line and round a track. Bare in mind every single report i have read about Mclaren Vs Enzo, Porsche GT, Lambo etc..every single one says the mclaren is still better despite being 10 years old. One of the best cars ever made!

Yeah I agree, but don't forget the F1 costs 1.5mil, for that price it better be top notch, I mean, for that price I could have stuff off a Fomula one car installed into my 240SX (or buy an Rx7 III), still have tons of cash to bribe gov officials and probably hit 240 mph.
The Enzo though expensive costs less than 1/2 of an F1 and yet gives you performance that rivals it. for the additional .7mil, I could have the enzo upgraded to kill the F1.

you speak the truth. But i think doing an engine upgrade on the likes of a ferrari is like sitting on the queen. Vaguely possible but would not be good idea in the long term

If your going to dis one car and praise another at least get your facts straight, the Koenigsegg does not use twin turbos, it uses a twin-screw compressor, basically a supercharger or (blower), superchargers do not create the type of lag that turbos do, (you don't have to wait for the exhaust gases to get moving) it's force fed straight into the heads, and besides when was the last time you saw an N/A supercar top 115bhp/liter? it's not exactly possible to get 806bhp out of 4.7 liters without some form of forced induction.

McLaren F1 is the fastest Production Car as of now.

I have a Z06 427 Twin Turbo that does 230+, but that dosent count :)

I'm guessing this is the forum for the Rch folks, or the older generation, cuz I'm usually in the 240SX forum, and we are all still saving and putting in double shifts trying to save for those cute chrome intakes, and this guy here is talking about doing 230+mph, Damn, we are still strugling to break into the low 15s in our Rice Mobiles.
I had a 95 T-ram, that I was forced to sell, the only mod in its 2yrs was an oil change and a $10 cone filter.

Can someone here sponsor me or something, 230+mph, my lifes dream is to break 200mph in my 240. As soon as I save up and get a T-56, and some extra cash for the miscellenious stuff, I will have the last piece of the puzzle to finish my Taurus SHO swap into my 240. I want to put a TT on it, they got a kit to get it to 280hp, and ready for some serious boost. so look out mr Lingenfelter, I'M COMING FOR YOUUUUUUuuuuuuU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!



Well as soon as I get the cash, I already got the hraness installed and the LSD, damn, doing stuff by yourself is alot cheaper than paying someone to do it for you.

These guys took a road trip to the Dauer headquarters in Nurnberg, Germany and met with J. Dauer himself... interesting site with pictures and info on the Dauer 962.

http://www.bmwm5.com/articles/germany2/mpowertrip2001-3.htm


In short: Of the original 50 planned just 11 were completed (3 of those currently rot in the SoB parking lots as all of you who follow Sultan matters know...). The 404.6 kph/251.46 mph top speed was apparently reached in the VAG Group oval track near Wolfsburg, Germany so it's not just a wild claim or estimate (there's a video to download too but I haven't - connection too slow). If they used street tyres for the run (and I guess they did since they claim the car to be TUV compliant) this record stands as far as I'm concerned (and as it was a car you could buy and not a prototype I guess it qualifies as production)

Way back in this thread there was chat of the callaway sledge... i noted a comment that the fastest production car ever had to be one available to anyone.

I have two responses to that
1. Is it not enough that the company offered it, even if it was a flop and only sold a couple.
2. Consider the ENZO - can anyone buy that car, i think not, all were sold before prouction, to people they ferrari believed were worthy, and or "good customers"

But anyway, the callaway still stands as the fastest production car.

This is a little off the point, but there is a car which is street legal, did some rallying though. It's a ford probe 3200gt (or something to that extent, i know it sounds like a mazza). it did a similar run 0-100kph in 2.8secs.

And also the Veyron will never reach full production with its current claimed potential. Bugatti's budget won't be extend to pay for the refinement thats required to prevent its high speed twitchiness. And the saturation of the supercar market will prevent serious sales.

The Chrysler ME four-twelve has to be the most exciting concept car ot there, but will never make production also due to the saturation issues

Yes the Sledgehammer is a very impressive car. Callaway knew what he was doing and the fact that the 880 hp engine was tractable with a steady idle and could be driven easily like your normal 911 (within reason) says a lot about the serious engineering expertise that went into that machine - especially compared to many of todays 4-figure horsepower modifieds. It's no coincidence that Callaway was assigned to work on the V8 Aston Martin engine produced in the early 90s for the Virage model. BUT was it a production car? As I mentioned in another thread the car made the record run on slick tyres as safety on the normal treaded tyres was an issue (http://www.z06-corvette.com/super/sledgehammer.htm). Callaway certainly would be obliged to pay large development costs to a tyre company to make a special street tyre with an unheard-of speed rating... (unless they made one for free publicity, in any case it didn't happen). Tyres ARE important. Even today VW tells us that in order to reach the 250mph+ speed the Veyron has to be fitted with track tyres (among other problems).


And yes I agree that ''generally available to the public'' (who made that rule anyway?) doesn't really need to be an issue. An Enzo was less available than the single Sledgehammer for sure. Shortly after the highspeed test it was available for sale to anybody who had the cash and certainly there was no customer-filtering like with the Ferrari!
Finally don't forget that fastest car means fastest top speed and not fastest acceleration...

If you all are still talking about the fastest production car, go to http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/record.html , it is the Ultima GTR, and it is only 1/10 the cost of a McLaren. My dad owns one of these Ultimas, not quite as quick, but close.. check it out

Impressive, but it tops out at 200 mph... It is generally agreed that ''fastest production car'' points to top speed rather than acceleration and decelaration times. I envy you for having one though no question :grinyes:

I didn't realise the Ultima boasts such spectacular performance stats.

There seems to be a good market for these ultra fast go-karts that come in under the silly prices of the likes of the SLR and porsche gt.

But back to fastest production car, i mention the callaway not only because of its 0-100 time but also its top speed of something to the extent of 405. Because they placed a set of race tyres on for safety and performance does not detract from the fact it is a production vehicle. Does a sprinter who runs 9.78 for the 100 wearing a pair of running spikes not get the title of fastest man in the world, should the fastest man be one who runs in no shoes???

And should they be forced to check the high speed on a main road not a race track??

It is not illegal to drive on a road with what amounts to race bread tyres. However, comfort,cost and safety generally means most cars don't.

What speed have we got up to now? The Bugatti Veyron tops out at 252mph/406kph

I'm sorry but in most parts of the world (USA as well) it is ILLEGAL to drive on public roads on slicks. We have to stick with ''production'' otherwise we'd be talking about full racing dragsters which are way faster than all of these cars! (I guess you could fire up a top fuel on a street light and ''be the fastest'' but you'd be arrested for that! The Sledgehammer was recorded at exactly 410 kph (254.76 mph) on shaved (slick) tyres. It was unsafe/unstable at those speeds with grooved road tyres. Hence we don't know how fast it would have gone with road tyres. The point is it might have run slower than the McLaren F1 which was clocked at 391 kph (243 mph) on normal road tyres . At those speeds every part of the car is stressed to the total extreme. We just don't know which would be faster all things being equal and production. That doesn't mean I don't admire Reeves Callaway's work! Ofcourse the exact same goes for the McLaren... and I hope you realise I don't compare the two cars on the whole so I hope no one flames me for that! Another car that might be a contender is the Dauer 962 (see earlier post) of which it's unclear under what conditions it reached the 251.46 mph (details on this feat are hard to come by on the net unlike the Sledge and F1 heroics). One car that is definitely not a contender is the Veyron which is still untested under any kind of conditions slicks or no slicks or whatever!

And the same goes for a zillion other prototypes that are never going to be tested like the ME4-12 or the 300mph Tomahawk bike (yeah right. :screwy: )

The unfortunate thing about this argument is that the callaway is a production car, it has the highest recorded speed, therefore it is the fastest. not really too much to argue about. And i am lead to believe the tyres were grooved slicks, (do not say that is inherently juxstposed - because that's obvious. Look at formula 1 tyres for the definition, they are termed grooved slicks) which are by definition street legal despite their race heritage.

http://www.yokohamatire.com/TireIntro.asp?TireID=2

http://www.yokohamatire.com/TireIntro.asp?TireID=60

for example!

also i forgot, but in a link u put in earlier u directed everyone to this site,well the parent of this site, if u read the article, especially this page they have a yarn about the tyre choice.
http://www.z06-corvette.com/super/corvette-sledgehammer-14.jpg

OK, now combine the scanned article with this on the same page.....''Goodyear was instrumental in supplying tires for the occasion: ZR40 Gatorbacks from the standard
production molds, but constructed more like a racing tire. Treads were then shaved to preventheat buildup and chunking , while mounting was on standard Callaway Dymag magnesium rims.''

This is how I see it: basically they were custom made slicks (not off-the-rack racing slicks). Racing/road hybrids but with no tread i.e. not legal... and this is what matters.

PS. Also note in the scan that while on the track the car used 107 octane fuel which is a fuel unavailable outside racing. Of course you could always carry your own special fuel with you!

thats what fuel tanks are for aren't they

you have read too much into the tyre issue - i believe the tyres weren't shaved to full racing slicks,as i previously stated, but comparable to the tyres available today, that is minimal tread.

still all beside the point, the car is a production car

But it's not a production car if it's not road legal.....

..and yes fuel tanks are for carrying the fuel but refuelling on a gas station with 107-octane isn't an option :grinno:

The fastest street car must be a Donkervoort. It's a lot faster then the Carrera GT and even the enzo. On the Nordschleife it was 17 seconds quicker per lap than a Carrera GT and whith only 270bhp to do it.

Fastest around the Nord' is one thing, absolute top speed quite another... and this thread was always about the latter.

The tyres were a custom made version of what is available today. 1980s, the technology and tyre choice was not as wide. but the tyres are street legal.

the enzo, nissan patrol, f50, lincoln navigator, the new hideous ford suv/ute are all very much illegal to drive through much of the UK, are they not prduction cars??

Useless point, but its great fun reading your replies 993...

The tyres were a custom made version of what is available today. 1980s, the technology and tyre choice was not as wide. but the tyres are street legal.

the enzo, nissan patrol, f50, lincoln navigator, the new hideous ford suv/ute are all very much illegal to drive through much of the UK, are they not prduction cars??




You just don't know if those tyres were legal so let's just leave it at that.
........as for the rest of your comment I can only answer this: man, what are you ON?

shaved, does not denote brought back to slicks, doing that would create severe tyre instability. The tyre was brought back to lesser tread depth to prevent gas and heat pockets which can form the bass of large grooves and are able to sheare off a piece of tread , this therefore maintains the integrety of the tyre and basically street legal. (dependent on the exact depth of the grooves, some countries have more lax laws with regard to groove depth, but anyway millions of ppl drive around everyday on shitty tyres, trying to risk my life for me) Which brings me back to my other point regarding different countries/regions having different regulations.

Oh and i forgot to mention, if u drive by any decent servo or car mart or auto store (whatever u call it) then u'll find fuel addatives, which boost your octane levels (aka fucking your car up, unless ur driving a top shelf vehicle), i saw one the other day that promissed 104octane from 98. And that was at a dodgy little shell.

I must say the McLaren F1. But not for long... Veyron baby. 252mph.

"The car is electronically limited to 400km/h (248 mph)" I know its just 4 mph but still.... (Veyron)

Translation from autobild.de with the help of AltaVista (you'll get the point!)

Speed record.
Faster's did not go.
A Porsche 911 of the tuner 9ff set up a new speed record for to road-certified vehicles - to 388 km/h.

12.12.2004 - Nardo. The speed world record for to road-certified vehicles comes again made of Germany. Nearly six years, after McLaren with the F1 had screwed the record mark on 386,7 km/h, the measuring pole slipped again a bit more highly.

Jan Fatthauer, owner and chief engineer of 9ff, drove the record maximum personally: 388 km/h on the round course of Nardo. The 9ff-V400 on basis Porsche 996 GT2 carries out 840 HP and 880 Nm torque - for achievement enough, in order to lift the sportsman theoretically over the 400 km/h mark.

Contact 9ff Fahrzeugtechnik GmbH, 44319 Dortmund, www.9ff.de

(original german article here: http://www.autobild.de/aktuell/neuheiten/artikel.php?artikel_id=7707#)

Since the Sledgehammer story is done to death thought I bring in a new hopefull :biggrin:

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/61380.1.jpg
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/P996GT2_9FF_388.jpg

Rush with your order they only plan to make about 20!

Guinness book of World Records says the McLaren F1 is the fastest production road car. *aftermarket cars idk but factoy is McLaren* at 255.48 they did a re-run 2 years in teh salt flats here in america.

That's news to me. That's way faster than the 240-243mph previously recorded. Any link?

I'll try to find it till then here Bugatti 16/4 veyron and Dauer 962 top speeds.
2002 Bugatti 16/4 veyron 252.3mph
Dauer 962 250 mph.
http://www.supercars.net/index-top.html

Its nice to see a porsche way up there. No doubt will sell very well, especially if the Sultan was still buying whole race car teams. What are they asking for it??

And do they make it in right hand drive (let me guess...no)

And with different wheels...hideous

Last I heard the SoB isn't buying any more cars (actually it was his brother who was buying them and was deported from the country because of his ''decadent'' lifestyle
:grinno: )

You can contact [email protected] for a quote.... as a guide for a previous evolution of the car (744PS/372kph) they were asking 248000 euros (320000 US). This one can't be more than 300000 euro. Cheap for the performance!

If it's possible and you have the cash I'm sure they'll make you a RHD...

2002 Bugatti 16/4 veyron 252.3mph


2002? :grinno:
make that 2005 and counting :rolleyes:
we're still waiting to see that headline-news test run...

That was the model of the car that clocked that speed. Damn that is cheap for the performance. with enzo's and mclarens in the 500k-1mil range.

The sultan and his brother bought the vehicles. His brother fell out of favour with the sultan for making a significant mess of BIA (Brunei investment agency) way back in 99, that company directly effects a lot of the sultan's wealth. The sultan was not pleased with the whole falling and decided not to follow on with the passion they shared.

The TVR Speed 12 only made 500 Cars.

The TVR Speed 12 only made 500 Cars.

they wish.... they only made 1-2 prototypes

Apparently on the day of my last post this happened:

http://www.uberrides.com/us/archives/2005/03/koenigsegg_ccr_1.php

This standard production Koenigsegg reached 388kph in Nardo. Here it is hours later in the Geneva Salon.....

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/DSC01466.1.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)

some more links on this

http://www.m6board.com/articles.php?id=29&page=3
http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=12376


:sunglasse

hi to all ,For anone who is wondering the fastest made production car is the ford rs200 evolution which would set you back around £300,000 if you look it up you will find out i am right. the thing is they are hard to find as only 24 were ever made.

so now you know

McLaren F1 all the way!!

hi to all ,For anone who is wondering the fastest made production car is the ford rs200 evolution which would set you back around £300,000 if you look it up you will find out i am right. the thing is they are hard to find as only 24 were ever made.

so now you know
Could be the fastest accelerating 0-60mph (clocked something like 3.07 I think) but not the fastest....

the ford rs200 evo fastest road test 0-100 3.09

Ultima 640 GTR? :dunno:

The record was beat by a car called a Koenensig? It spanked pretty hard on the other top speeds by several MPH I think Ill look for the link it was a pretty big deal. (Dont kill me if it was mentioned theres 8 pages on this topic) But this Koenensig did break the record.

Sorry, but like i said, it's no longer the F1. It was dethroned. The F1's record was 242 miles per hour, then came the Koenigsegg CCR, who's record is 243 miles per hour. it is a beautiful car though. THe door system is unbelievable, the engineer who came up with it had been working on it for 3 years.

Ultima GTR
0-60...2.7sec
0-100...5.5sec
0-150...11.8 sec
0-100-0...9.8 sec
100-0...3.6sec
1.176g skidpad
top speed recorded on track so far 231mph

official record holder for highest recorded skidpad #, fastest 0 to 100 and back to 0 ( a full second faster than the F1 ) and the record holder for shortest distance from 0 to 100 (recorded on a wet track even!)

all this in a production car for around $100k built or they will ship you a crate full of pieces for $40k, take your pick.

can be found at www.ultimasports.co.uk/gtr