Fastest Production Car

Wake up? Me? The Mclaren u say? i admit the diablo vt isnt available any more but i meant the Diablo GT, which is still available from lamorghini, either to regular customers or more popularly to race teams around the world, as far as the Mclaren goes, theres not even a question about it still being in production, the last one rolled out in 1998 was it and i think that was an LM? thus making it unable to be the fastest PRODUCTION car. Like i stated before the MClaren is the fastest production car ever as recognised by the guinness book of world records but if you wanna go that far back just go back a few more years and youll see the Duaer can make the MClaren look slow, cmon we all know the Mclaren was the best, and the LM probably still is the ultimate road going car but it aint in production no longer, get over it, the MClarens time is over. And before you post again remember i said PRODUCTION, define how the Mclaren is still in production if you want to argue your point again.

o, and about your point on what a production car is even if its still not being produced, just look at the records and how they changed, the diablo was king in the early 90's then the xj220 then as soon as this was stopped by jag the diablo went back on top only to be surpassed again, by the mclaren i think it was. Since the diablo has been in contant production over the last ten or so years it has always scooped up the title as soon as the one off supercars such as the xj220 dissapeared.

very true well said so the f1 isnt the fastest production car at the moment

There are no Diablos in production! Any kind of Diablo! Only the Murcielago, Murcielago Barchetta and Gallardo are being made by Lamborghini! I would find it very strange if the Diablo is in production, because it started production in 1991 and it would not be profitable after 12 years. I don't see how the Diablo can be out of production and the F1 can be out of production but the Diablo is still somehow considered a production car. Oh, and how fast does the Diablo GT even go? Also, keep in mind that there are some other very fast cars in production, such as the Enzo with a 218 mph top speed and the Saleen S7 with 223 mph top speed.

We must await the statistics of a recently released Lamborghini R-GT, which will spawn the GT model...

And right now, Lamborghini is only producing the Murcielago and Gallardo. Late 2004 will bring the Barchetta and probably the Murcielago GT and maybe even a Gallardo roadster...

well none of them are the fastest production car

Although I like it the Dauer 962 can hardly be considered a production car. It was a Le Mans car and Dauer converted one to road use which had a top speed of 237mp. Still, great car :p
http://www.porsche.ru/sport/962/wings.jpg

But not nearly the fastest, Carrera... The fastest is, or will be when it is officialy released, the Bugatti Veyron 16.4. O-60 in 2.9 and top speed of over 250 MPH. Price estamated at 1.2 MILLION dollars.

There is actually a limited handful of 962's , not just one, although there are too few to be production, it is a 'Limited production'

But not nearly the fastest, Carrera... The fastest is, or will be when it is officialy released, the Bugatti Veyron 16.4. O-60 in 2.9 and top speed of over 250 MPH. Price estamated at 1.2 MILLION dollars.

I never said it was the fastest but doesn't matter. Now what they need to do is get a Veyron and a Koenigsegg CC and take them to the same track where the F1 reached 242mph and see if they can top it...
And out of interest how many cars have to be made for it to qualify as a production car?

I just want to be the one to point out that the Koenigsegg has done a top speed test, but they could not push it because it started raining. So it only did 220+ in the rain. The Koenigsegg is a production car, although, by what people are saying now, I think it qualifies as a limited production car, with only under a dozen built so far. Based on the stats, with a lower coefficient of drag, and higher horsepower than the F1, it should take the title if it makes a qualifying run before the Veyron comes out. The Veyron should be the fastest.

On a side note, I just like the Koenigsegg better at this point. It's quick as hell, everything is adjustable, and it's not just a speed competitor. It does 1.3Gs in the skid pad, which is INSANE for a car on street tires. It's basically a do all. I love the car. Can't wait to get one, either by lottery or making a come up in a few years.

*edit* I just realized that my title is AF newbie, and I've been signed up with AF for like a year :lol: :lol:

the dodge tomahawk has a estimated top speed of 300 mph, it also has a viper engine, but the speed is estimated because no one is willing to actually test it out. did anyone read that the bugatti veyron has 1200 h.p. but they have to de-tune it for america, and 1000 for the rest of the world, one last thing no one said anything about the ferrari enzo that hits 60 in about 3.2 seconds and the saleen s7 that does it in about 3.4 seconds. i'd still rather have the mclaren f1, only 100 ever made

The McLaren F1 will always be the Holy Grail of cars in my eyes. Faster then all hell, room for you and 2 passengers, very comfortable, looks amazing, very streetable, comes with friggin fitted luggage and...like...titanium tools or something. It's the best of all worlds.

the bugatti is the fastest producion car. It is mass produced. The mclaren only goes 242mph, the bugatti goes 262mph.

It's obviously not official or it would be in the Guiness book.

actually the Fastest Production Car would be the McLaren F1 because that is the best cars in the world.

i was wondering if any one new what the fastest production car is?.The 3 cars that claim to be the fastest car are the dauer 962 , Bugatti Veyron , and the Koenigsegg CC.
Depends what you guys define as a "production car" - I certainly don't class any of the vehicles you've listed, as production cars.

The Vauxhall Lotus Carlton was good for around 180+ mph, and that was a production car, sold through Vauxhall dealers here in the UK alongside more sedate family Vauxhall models.

Just like to point out that the dodge tomohawk claim of 300+ mph is bs. There is no way that a 500hp bike with aerodynamics like that could reach that speed, im guessing more like 200mph and then the riders arms would rip off. However I have seen videos of a turbo hayabusa (the most aerodynamic production bike) with 499hp pulling insane wheelies at about 180mph. Also they claim they have had it up to 270 mph, so with the dodge being a big heavy POS there is no way it goes that fast.

The estimated top speed for the tomahawk is an *estimate*.
However, it was derived from computational fluid dynamics computer simulations. AKA, it found the amount of resistance offered from aerodynamic drag...once the values of all frictional forces are added (wheels to ground, drivetrain losses, and air resistance), the vehicles power and gear ratios, a pretty good estimate of top speed can be established.

Well their estimate is wrong, that bike is very aerodynamicly dirty and as i just said the most aerodynamic production bike can only go 270 with 499 hp. Also they first said it could go 400mph and then changed their minds to 300mph. All the motorcycle magzines have been joking about how bs thier claims are and if you sat down and did all those calcuations yorself you would have to agree. Also the bike only has 2 gears so its not going to work trust me.

The Veryon hasn't hit production yet, the CC is the same- the Mclaren F1 still holds the title

Its the Koenigsegg CC
0-62 @ 3.0 seconds flat
and 245 mph as top speed.. thats around 5 mph faster then the McLaren F1

the problem with the dodge tomahawk is its lack of downforce, meaning that if it was fitted with front and rear wings it would be capable of its 400mph+ top speed making it th fastest production in the world

my car is a 1981 Chrysler valiant sedan with a 750hp twin turbo hemi 265(six cyl)

the problem with the dodge tomahawk is its lack of downforce, meaning that if it was fitted with front and rear wings it would be capable of its 400mph+ top speed making it th fastest production in the world

Yea....adding drag always makes things faster............

I pisses me off when companies like dodge make rediculas claims, did you not read my post about the 500hp hayabusa? it has nothing to do with downforce, the bike just straight out doesnt have the aero dynamics or horse power to reach 300mph. Think about it, the busa weighs 215kgs, the dodge 681kgs, both have about 500 hp but the busa is way more aero dynamic. The busa has 6 gears, the tomohawk has 2. So its not a matter of wether it really can reach 300mph it has been proven that it cant.

the problem with the claim is that of course for a speed even near that you'll need incedably long ratios but that tank can get you all of 50 miles crusing and to think how much it would be going flat out

I think it could probably do it. Who the hell knows...besides...why is it even an issue? The Tomahawk is nowhere even near the vacinity of being almost close to being considered a "production vehicle" nor will it ever be.

easy. It's the Mclaren F1 :biggrin:

It is still the McLaren F1 anyway, until a company that makes at least 50 examples can have one of its cars independently tested both ways down a track, with the runs being made within 30 minutes of each other.
No other company has done this yet with a speed faster then 242mph.

Vector; never any conclusive independent tests, and claimed top speed was only 220mph anyway; the McLaren beats that with its verified top speed

Also, what of the F1 LM. At 5 models I suppose its production, and the acceleration alone is .4 faster than the regular f1. Better high speed aero and 60 bhp more... F1 LM smokes the competition... unless the TVR Speed 12 was ever production (I'm really not sure).

Only 2 Speed 12s were made. Never went into production.

All these test are done by professionals. If you ask me the test should be done by someone who drives the cars daily. Then ask them how fast they have taken their cars. All these tuned cars are ruled out when talking about production cars.

Vector; never any conclusive independent tests, and claimed top speed was only 220mph anyway; the McLaren beats that with its verified top speed

I have a poster of the Vector that was autographed by the designers or something that I got at a car show when I was...hell...I don't even know...like...5.

Veyron maybe...

This will end the discussion.....
copyed from www.koenigsegg.com

2003-11-24
Koenigsegg in Guinness Book of World Records



Koenigsegg has received a Guinness Record for the most powerful production car in the world. Koenigsegg is replacing the Mclaren F1 for this record!

Christian v. Koenigsegg said he his happy that Guinness has recognized the CC and that he will strive for the official top speed record as well.

I don't even think the Veyron hit production yet, and if it did it was very recently. But when it does/did start being produced, it will be/is the fastest production car. 987 HP after US restrictions, 1001 without. 0-60 in less than 3 seconds. Top speed of 252 MPH. I don't think the Koenigsegg has numbers like that.

Actually the Lingenfhelter tuned corvette goes 0-60 in 1.9sec. I don't know where you got the numbers that a stock production camaro goes 0-60 in 2.2.

Well, the F1 LM was designed more for track use, not outright top speed; If I remember correctly, they estimated its top speet to be about 220 or so mph, but has much more downforace at high speeds, and the extra power accounts for the increase in acceleration.

And the Koenigsegg being in the Guiness book of records for the most powerful production car doesnt mean much; If a car had 2000hp, but weighted 14 tons and seats 12, well, it would be the most powerful production car, but it definately wouldnt be the fastest.

Actually the Lingenfhelter tuned corvette goes 0-60 in 1.9sec. I don't know where you got the numbers that a stock production camaro goes 0-60 in 2.2.

Which year Lingenfehelter Corvette did those numbers? Yeah agree chris, a 14 ton car...no way. I would like to see a pictue of this Koenigsegg that took McLaren F1's place in the Guinness book...

If you want a picture, google the CC8S, you'll get plenty. And yeah, the power thing doesn't really matter in the end, it's the performance.

Also, about the Lingenfelter vette, I understand the torque that it creates is enormous and since it comes from lingenfelter is probably produced on a wide band. But, with 200 less than the Veyron (yes it is 1,200 lighter) how can it accelerate in 1 full second faster. For that matter what tires did they fit it with the keep it from just bogging down at the start? Without either enormous tires or some sort of power distribution, 1.9 secs seems somewhat impossible.

By the way, who verified the 1.9 sec 0-60?

well, what can i say..it's a corvette!!! Here are the facts:
Price: $165,000, Weight: 3340 lbs, transmission: 6-Speed Manual/5-Speed Automatic
Engine Type: Twin-Turbo V8
Displacement: 7007 cc
Horsepower: 802 bhp @ 4600 rpm
Torque: 866 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 1.97 sec
0-100 mph: 4.33 sec
Quarter Mile: 8.95 sec @ 153 mph
Skidpad: 1.01g
Top Speed: 240 mph
what tires...street tires!!! Its a street legal car........
and here is a link to a video of it taking the 1/4 mile.
http://www.lingenfelter.com/LPEinmedia.asp

A street legal car does not equal production car.

A street legal car does not equal production car.
Yep, the thing not everyone understands...

Hey, i youst answerd moslerporschefreak question.....

And thank you for the answer. I still almost can't believe my eyes. 0-60 in 1.95 secs in street tiresand on a slightly wet track. I'd say Lingenfelter is more magician than businessman

well, what can i say..it's a corvette!!! Here are the facts:
Price: $165,000, Weight: 3340 lbs, transmission: 6-Speed Manual/5-Speed Automatic
Engine Type: Twin-Turbo V8
Displacement: 7007 cc
Horsepower: 802 bhp @ 4600 rpm
Torque: 866 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 1.97 sec
0-100 mph: 4.33 sec
Quarter Mile: 8.95 sec @ 153 mph
Skidpad: 1.01g
Top Speed: 240 mph
what tires...street tires!!! Its a street legal car........
and here is a link to a video of it taking the 1/4 mile.
http://www.lingenfelter.com/LPEinmedia.aspYes it's the Lingenfelter Corvette 427 TT i think and yes it's street legal and I really love Lingenfelter because Lingenfelter would be one of the best Automobile Modifyers in the world.

Yes it's the Lingenfelter Corvette 427 TT i think and yes it's street legal and I really love Lingenfelter because Lingenfelter would be one of the best Automobile Modifyers in the world.

That strange Dauer 962 Le Man was 2.7 seconds fast.

http://www.supercars.de/data/dauer/1994962%20le%20mans/480/016.jpg

Then there was charming Espace F1 with F1 engine,
2.8 sec.


http://www.universalauto.com/graphics/renaultespace.jpg

Production or not :sly:

i don't think that opel is production

i don't think that opel is production


Pardon? ???????????????????????????????????????????

i think he got banned for making that assumption, and one thing that would be faster than the Lingenfelter Corvette 427 TT would be the Lingfelt 427 TT engine in a 66" GT-40 or a new For GT

the corvette engine is best fit in mosler mt 900. the car weights 900 kg(photon version). 0-60 in 3.13 registered by motor trend, u can see it on www.moslerauto.com
the engine can be tuned with a lingenfelter twin turbo

i just read this entire thread, post to post hahaha

None of those cars are true production cars. There has to be a certain number of cars produced per year to make it a production car. Anyway the fastest production car 1/4 mile (which is what really counts) is the 1968 Plymouth Barracuda SS with the 426 hemi v8 with a 10.5 1/4 mile. while the 2003 Ferrari Enzo is a close third with a 10.8 sec 1/4 mile. The 1968 Dodge Dart with the 426 hemi had a 1/4 mile time of 10.5 (same as the Cuda) but crossed the finishline a mile an hour slower. Even with less horses the American mucle blew away the compatition. http://www.autofacts.ca/classics/fast.htm

I just read through this whole thread, and I dont think anyone commented on how amazing it is that the F1 (argue this all you want, I'm going with the democratic choice) is the fastest car proven by runs after so many years! You would think after 10 years they could've beaten the F1...

That's what I think is so amazing about the f1

I just read through this whole thread, and I dont think anyone commented on how amazing it is that the F1 (argue this all you want, I'm going with the democratic choice) is the fastest car proven by runs after so many years! You would think after 10 years they could've beaten the F1...

That's what I think is so amazing about the f1

That's exactly what makes the F1 stand out so much in car history, there have always been best cars but none that have accomplished such a feat and held it for over 10 years.

a couple posts up about the 1/4 mile times....poor man is so wrong.

The koinseeg CCR does it in 9.0 flat. With a top speed of 242+ mph.

Most of these cars people are talkin about are NOT PRODUCTION...

Where'd you read 9.0 flat and where is the 242 top speed come from?

If these are estimates say so, otherwise someone might think they're verified and go displaying them on some other thread.

check out the segg's website under ccr it says standing 1/4 mile in 9 flat... With 800+hp i dont think that its that far off if not the truth...and why would they need to lie...the car is one of the best production cars in the world if not thee best

If it's in the segg's website I'll be less skeptical, but until that gets verified by an independent party, I remain unconvinced. It's nothing against you it's just that it's far too easy for estimates or unverified data to be a little different from the truth.