Fastest Production Car
993cc
08-31-2005, 08:27 PM
The record was beat by a car called a Koenensig? It spanked pretty hard on the other top speeds by several MPH I think Ill look for the link it was a pretty big deal. (Dont kill me if it was mentioned theres 8 pages on this topic) But this Koenensig did break the record.
I won't kill you but it was mentioned on the same page about 7 short posts above :p (and there's a nice big picture of the record car for all to see too...).
(...as we wait for the official top speed of the Bugatti Veyron..)
I won't kill you but it was mentioned on the same page about 7 short posts above :p (and there's a nice big picture of the record car for all to see too...).
(...as we wait for the official top speed of the Bugatti Veyron..)
jcsaleen
09-01-2005, 10:52 AM
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/9914/file09400wu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/3676/file09418ze.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/880/file09420dc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/9314/file09439es.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1574/file09445hg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
AMS chief editor Bernd Ostmann has been the first mag tester that had the pleasure to ride 400+ in the EB 16.4 Bugatti Veyron at VW test course Ehra-Lessien...
For the metric challenged
402 kph is 249.9 mph
100 kph is 62mph
200 kph is 124mph
25 meters is 82 feet
1950 kg is 4299 lbs!
some impressions what he said about that day...
the track has been kinda damp in the morning, kinda scary at 400km/h, so 111m/sec without crash barries like in Nardo, well not really, rear wing setup to 2° so 40 to 50kg downforce at rear axle engineers promise that thisīll be enough for a smooth ride even on wet pavement...
through the first corner with 220 easily - absolute brutal accelerating up to 300 within seconds a light left hand bend with 380 - looking into the rear mirror - just an enormous spray but just like they told the EB16.4 is a very smooth car to ride even at that speeds...
the sepcial Michelin tires are working just perfect, they were tested up to 500km/h and before a high speed run they require 3bar pressure - this is one of the points the driver has to go through with a check list and a second car key to unlock the high speed mode - here the two front diffusor flaps are closed, the rear wing selects 2° and the body is lowered to 6.5cm front and 7cm rear a sepecial system is monitoring everything and when only one parameter is not ok the car automatically switches to handling-mode...
the first run ended with "only" 380km/h - the car switched to handling because the exhaust temperatures reached critical 970°C - cooling down the car at 220 or 5000rpm in 4th gear...
the weather gets better, itīs much warmer now and engineers force the AMS team to "act" - next run 398km/h - this time itīs the driverīs fault as he has enabled the A/C on the previous cooling lap costing some km/h on that fast run - so again a cooling lap and then full concentration on the last run with nearly 400 the rpm showed 5800 in 7th gear, now it shows 6200rpm at a speed of 402km/h ...
braking is again a new experience 31.4m (!!!) from 100 to 0 with a 1950kg car...
on the other hand acceleration is also outstanding - measured 25m long black rubber from all four wheels after the standard sprint with launch-control - result: 2.5sec to 100 and 7.3 to 200 :shock:
on a side note - at 400 km/h the EB16.4 needs ONE liter fuel for ONE kilometer so they calculated every 12min a gas station on autobahn when driving 400
With that kind of fuel consumption, gas prices really need to go down!
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/3676/file09418ze.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/880/file09420dc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/9314/file09439es.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1574/file09445hg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
AMS chief editor Bernd Ostmann has been the first mag tester that had the pleasure to ride 400+ in the EB 16.4 Bugatti Veyron at VW test course Ehra-Lessien...
For the metric challenged
402 kph is 249.9 mph
100 kph is 62mph
200 kph is 124mph
25 meters is 82 feet
1950 kg is 4299 lbs!
some impressions what he said about that day...
the track has been kinda damp in the morning, kinda scary at 400km/h, so 111m/sec without crash barries like in Nardo, well not really, rear wing setup to 2° so 40 to 50kg downforce at rear axle engineers promise that thisīll be enough for a smooth ride even on wet pavement...
through the first corner with 220 easily - absolute brutal accelerating up to 300 within seconds a light left hand bend with 380 - looking into the rear mirror - just an enormous spray but just like they told the EB16.4 is a very smooth car to ride even at that speeds...
the sepcial Michelin tires are working just perfect, they were tested up to 500km/h and before a high speed run they require 3bar pressure - this is one of the points the driver has to go through with a check list and a second car key to unlock the high speed mode - here the two front diffusor flaps are closed, the rear wing selects 2° and the body is lowered to 6.5cm front and 7cm rear a sepecial system is monitoring everything and when only one parameter is not ok the car automatically switches to handling-mode...
the first run ended with "only" 380km/h - the car switched to handling because the exhaust temperatures reached critical 970°C - cooling down the car at 220 or 5000rpm in 4th gear...
the weather gets better, itīs much warmer now and engineers force the AMS team to "act" - next run 398km/h - this time itīs the driverīs fault as he has enabled the A/C on the previous cooling lap costing some km/h on that fast run - so again a cooling lap and then full concentration on the last run with nearly 400 the rpm showed 5800 in 7th gear, now it shows 6200rpm at a speed of 402km/h ...
braking is again a new experience 31.4m (!!!) from 100 to 0 with a 1950kg car...
on the other hand acceleration is also outstanding - measured 25m long black rubber from all four wheels after the standard sprint with launch-control - result: 2.5sec to 100 and 7.3 to 200 :shock:
on a side note - at 400 km/h the EB16.4 needs ONE liter fuel for ONE kilometer so they calculated every 12min a gas station on autobahn when driving 400
With that kind of fuel consumption, gas prices really need to go down!
crxlvr
09-06-2005, 01:00 AM
you seem to be missing the point of this thread, its fastest PRODUCTION car, not fastest car ever. the bugatti is a 1 off concept, not a production. so as i stated several times already, the Mclaren F1 SuperCar, IS the fastest PRODUCTION Car Ever Made.
jcsaleen
09-06-2005, 08:44 AM
you seem to be missing the point of this thread, its fastest PRODUCTION car, not fastest car ever. the bugatti is a 1 off concept, not a production. so as i stated several times already, the Mclaren F1 SuperCar, IS the fastest PRODUCTION Car Ever Made.
1. The buggatti.... IS a supercar and yes it IS a production car. Thats why there have been hundreds of offers. Why do you think it was sent back into saftey test? I don't know... Maybe cause it has to meet road regulations since it's a production car! Read your fact's. Buggatti has blaitently stated they were going for the world's fastest production car!
2.If you don't count that as a PRODUCTION car then I guess that makes the Koenigsegg CCR the fastest. Do your Hw... :nono:
1. The buggatti.... IS a supercar and yes it IS a production car. Thats why there have been hundreds of offers. Why do you think it was sent back into saftey test? I don't know... Maybe cause it has to meet road regulations since it's a production car! Read your fact's. Buggatti has blaitently stated they were going for the world's fastest production car!
2.If you don't count that as a PRODUCTION car then I guess that makes the Koenigsegg CCR the fastest. Do your Hw... :nono:
993cc
09-06-2005, 05:46 PM
Of course it's a production car :rolleyes:. And they plan to make more than the 70 or so road cars McLaren made.. I mean really :grinno:
I believe this topic is over and done with (at least for a long time to come..)
I believe this topic is over and done with (at least for a long time to come..)
D_LinK
09-13-2005, 11:02 PM
thanks for the pics JSC, now I don't have to buy it!
andysgenie
09-30-2005, 05:32 PM
the mclaren f1 does indeed hold the fastest productin car title however it is easy to produce a car that is faster without much effort a nissan skylione is a good base to start with ,you have to replace the engine,running gear and transmission however , but this can be done at a fraction of the price of a f1.also a a footnote a good streetracer from japan with 20 to 30k to spend on his car can build somthing that will blow away a mclaren f1 without a problem think about it a million against a hundred thousand . money and power are nothing without the knowledge of how to use it wisely.
andysgenie
09-30-2005, 05:36 PM
buggati fastest car ha ha yeah ok if you want to pick concept cars can i pick modified to the hilt production cars ha ha seem fair bet i can find a quicker one than the buggatti !
993cc
10-04-2005, 04:00 PM
People still insist on calling the Veyron a concept car..... mind-boggling... :rolleyes:
... Also I would be interested in knowing more about that 400km/h Skyline...
... Also I would be interested in knowing more about that 400km/h Skyline...
jcsaleen
10-04-2005, 05:28 PM
993cc
10-09-2005, 03:48 PM
...which run 346 km/h (215 mph)...
thurmar
10-28-2005, 09:17 AM
mclaren- "junk"
saleen s7-real car(245mph)
saleen s7-real car(245mph)
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10-29-2005, 11:31 AM
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Jaguar D-Type
10-29-2005, 09:13 PM
Saleen says the S7 Twin Turbo is capable of hitting 235 mph.
"Expect a future intercooled version with almost twice the boost [5.5 psi] to make over 1000 bhp."
- Road & Track
"Expect a future intercooled version with almost twice the boost [5.5 psi] to make over 1000 bhp."
- Road & Track
tim1950
11-04-2005, 03:22 PM
Can't you downsize those pic be fore uploading them? Theyr'e a bitch to look at that size
Scrubadubdub
11-29-2005, 10:26 AM
The answers to all your questions:
http://www.supercarworld.com/records.html
(note asterisks indicate claimed figures only)
http://www.supercarworld.com/records.html
(note asterisks indicate claimed figures only)
bobbejaan
12-07-2005, 06:21 AM
Jaguar D-Type
12-14-2005, 03:10 AM
Saleen S7 takes on Veyron
Wednesday 7th December 2005
autoexpress.co.uk
Saleen is now offering buyers of its 750 bhp S7 Twin Turbo supercar the option of a 'performance upgrade'. It costs Ģ46,500 on top of the S7's Ģ320,000 list price and boosts the 7-litre twin-turbo V8 to a claimed 1000 bhp. Coupled with a relatively light kerbweight of 1338 kg, the huge power should allow the S7 to challenge the Bugatti Veyron as the fastest production car in the world. And with 75 examples of the S7 already delivered in the US, the Saleen certainly has every right to claim the title.
Even with the 'cooking' 750bhp engine, the S7 Twin Turbo is said to be good for a sub-three second run to 60 mph, and 100 mph flashes up in a claimed six seconds flat. Currently Saleen claims a top speed of 240 mph for the S7 Twin Turbo but with the 1000 bhp upgrade there are whispers that the car has already topped over 260 mph in testing.
(end of article)
"Expect a future intercooled version with almost twice the boost to make over 1000 bhp."
- Road & Track
The new S7 Twin Turbo runs 5.5 psi of boost.
check the link for the Saleen S7 and S7R
Saleen S7 and S7R (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=379893)
Wednesday 7th December 2005
autoexpress.co.uk
Saleen is now offering buyers of its 750 bhp S7 Twin Turbo supercar the option of a 'performance upgrade'. It costs Ģ46,500 on top of the S7's Ģ320,000 list price and boosts the 7-litre twin-turbo V8 to a claimed 1000 bhp. Coupled with a relatively light kerbweight of 1338 kg, the huge power should allow the S7 to challenge the Bugatti Veyron as the fastest production car in the world. And with 75 examples of the S7 already delivered in the US, the Saleen certainly has every right to claim the title.
Even with the 'cooking' 750bhp engine, the S7 Twin Turbo is said to be good for a sub-three second run to 60 mph, and 100 mph flashes up in a claimed six seconds flat. Currently Saleen claims a top speed of 240 mph for the S7 Twin Turbo but with the 1000 bhp upgrade there are whispers that the car has already topped over 260 mph in testing.
(end of article)
"Expect a future intercooled version with almost twice the boost to make over 1000 bhp."
- Road & Track
The new S7 Twin Turbo runs 5.5 psi of boost.
check the link for the Saleen S7 and S7R
Saleen S7 and S7R (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=379893)
jcsaleen
12-14-2005, 05:02 PM
It was only a matter of time.... :evillol:
Zachp911
12-14-2005, 05:13 PM
That's gonna be insane :evillol:
993cc
12-23-2005, 11:50 AM
Even faster runs from the Veyron : 407.5 km/h (253.26 mph) in Ehra-Lessien test track, Germany under TUV supervision:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron_16.4#Performance
And 415 km/h (257.92 mph) in Salt Flats, Utah:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron#400_km.2Fh
That's even faster than the 1-off Sledgehammer
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/salt1.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)
:iceslolan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron_16.4#Performance
And 415 km/h (257.92 mph) in Salt Flats, Utah:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron#400_km.2Fh
That's even faster than the 1-off Sledgehammer
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/salt1.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)
:iceslolan
993cc
02-11-2006, 04:22 PM
I found this article from german mag AutoBild on supercars.net. It's about the desert testing of the Veyron.
http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=58942
Apparently they had some problems with the high elevation (the turbos starved for air and output dropped to "only" about 900 hp) and the sand (the tyres dug in over 3 cm at 350 km/h ). So it seems they probably never reached the 257 mph mark. Officially 253mph/407.5kph is the top speed. I think even more amazing is the 2.46 sec time for the 0-100kph (62mph) run though :eek:
http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=58942
Apparently they had some problems with the high elevation (the turbos starved for air and output dropped to "only" about 900 hp) and the sand (the tyres dug in over 3 cm at 350 km/h ). So it seems they probably never reached the 257 mph mark. Officially 253mph/407.5kph is the top speed. I think even more amazing is the 2.46 sec time for the 0-100kph (62mph) run though :eek:
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