Window clips

PotIsYourFriend · 01-28-2006, 01:50 PM

Ok so I bought a new regulator from the dealership and installed but one of the black clips on the window is broken off where the bolt would screw to to hold the window into place... I went back to the dealership to see if they had it but they don't.. He printed out a diagram of the door and it had every part with a picture but didn't show anything glued or connected to the glass. I told him it did and that the diagram didn't show it.. He said that you need to call a glass company as the window probably comes already with it.. Now my question, is there anywhere I can order this clip because I'm not paying for a perfectly good window just because of a .50 clip is broken.. If I have to I'll just keep it all the way up the one clip that is ok. .

BNaylor · 01-28-2006, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PotIsYourFriend

Ok so I bought a new regulator from the dealership and installed but one of the black clips on the window is broken off where the bolt would screw to to hold the window into place... I went back to the dealership to see if they had it but they don't.. He printed out a diagram of the door and it had every part with a picture but didn't show anything glued or connected to the glass. I told him it did and that the diagram didn't show it.. He said that you need to call a glass company as the window probably comes already with it.. Now my question, is there anywhere I can order this clip because I'm not paying for a perfectly good window just because of a .50 clip is broken.. If I have to I'll just keep it all the way up the one clip that is ok. .

Are you referring to the window regulator (sash) clips? I have two part numbers.

Old - 12337848
New white - 22697622

I'm afraid the clips will cost more than 50 cents especially through the GM dealer.

PotIsYourFriend · 01-29-2006, 07:01 AM

Thank you for your reply.. I'll post pics of what I'm talking about this evening when I get home from work...

PotIsYourFriend · 01-29-2006, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bnaylor3400

Are you referring to the window regulator (sash) clips? I have two part numbers.

Old - 12337848
New white - 22697622

I'm afraid the clips will cost more than 50 cents especially through the GM dealer.

Sorry for the blurry pic but it was night time and it had to be below 150k at this site... If you look close it's the black clip thats conneted to the window.. The one I took a pic of is ok but the one in the back I didnt take a pic of is broken...

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BNaylor · 01-29-2006, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PotIsYourFriend

Sorry for the blurry pic but it was night time and it had to be below 150k at this site... If you look close it's the black clip thats conneted to the window.. The one I took a pic of is ok but the one in the back I didnt take a pic of is broken...

I see now. You mean the plastic piece that is epoxied to the window? I'll check with a GM parts tech I know.

BNaylor · 01-30-2006, 08:12 AM

Here is the info on the part you need. It is called a sash. Same for two or four door. The part number is 22689012. Dealer retail is $8.17 each. It also states it requires US epoxy #12378568 (dealer retail $23.48) but you should be able to use other epoxy that will work on glass.

Good luck and hopefully you'll get it resolved.

PotIsYourFriend · 01-30-2006, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bnaylor3400

Here is the info on the part you need. It is called a sash. Same for two or four door. The part number is 22689012. Dealer retail is $8.17 each. It also states it requires US epoxy #12378568 (dealer retail $23.48) but you should be able to use other epoxy that will work on glass.

Good luck and hopefully you'll get it resolved.

Thanks alot, another question.. How do I get the old clips off? They seem to on the glass pretty good....

BNaylor · 01-30-2006, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PotIsYourFriend

Thanks alot, another question.. How do I get the old clips off? They seem to on the glass pretty good....

That's a good question and I really don't know. You might check with a shop that does glass replacement and ask how they do it. I'd probably very carefully use a Dremel type moto-tool and grind them off but without causing scratches or breaking any part of the glass where they are bonded.

Either way you can see that is a PITA job just for an $8.00 part. Good luck!

PotIsYourFriend · 01-30-2006, 05:08 PM

Well after trying very carefully and not getting anywhere because the old epoxy or whatever they used was like cement so I ended up not using them.. Thanks for the part number.. What I did was drilled a hole between the glass and bottom part of the old clip and BAM!!!!!!!!!!! Not pretty but it'll do.. If one should fail I have serveral for backup purposes..

I have another question

, you seem to know alot about these god foresaken cars... I had my Check Engine Soon light come on along with the ABS and Service Vehicle Soon light.. I got the ABS and SVS light fixed by replacing the something wheel sensor on the front tire at a GM Service Shop but after driving it since last Friday the CES light came on again. So I took it to AutoZone and there machine said it was error 420.. Which was a long list, Cat Conveter malfunction, O2 sensor, misfire, bad spark plugs or vacuum leak.. First off I had the Cat and O2 sensors replaced about 1 year ago. And come to think about it I've never had to replace a Cat before or know anyone that has either... I can't hear any vacuum leaks and I had my spark plugs along with the wires changed about 8 months ago...

So from AutoZone I took it straight to the Repair shop at my local dealership.. They hooked the scanner up to it and get the samething.. The lady tells me to replace the Cat AGAIN (note I didn't get it from there) and she said the Cat alone costs 1 THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!!!!!!! I giggled and she said take it across the street for alot less. Well I did and the total cost was under 200 dollars...

Ok now, did I replace this Cat for nothing again? If this model has a known Intake gasket leak would this cause the Cat to malfuction? Note I haven't had to add antifreeze to it for a long time but have alittle oil sludge on the cap.. But it could have been from when I added antifreeze to it about 2 yrs ago when someone replaced my antifreeze with there used oil and didn't know and poured about a quart into my reservior..

BNaylor · 01-31-2006, 07:00 AM

Good job on the window. Pretty creative.

If you had the intake manifold leak after the CAT was replaced the first time it is possible that the CAT was damaged. Not all coolant gets burned off in combustion so some will work its way into the exhaust system. The CAT operates around 1200 degrees F when operating properly. Antifreeze will cause the CAT to exceed these temperatures and it will damage the CAT. Misfires wil also damage a CAT.

DTC error code P0420 is normally a bad CAT and to have a bad CAT again is a possibility. If the error code stays off for several drive cycles with the new CAT then you'll probably be OK.

PotIsYourFriend · 01-31-2006, 06:13 PM

Well the woman told meif they didn't reset the light then it would go off after 100 miles but it's been over 130 now since I replaced the cat and it didn't go out.. So I unplugged the battery cable for 1 hour and have driven it about 20 miles without it coming on.. Will it take 100 miles for it to come back on if there's still a problem? Or should it have come on right away if there was a problem still?

Maybe this isn't a question I should ask here but don't they make dummy O2 sensors? I mean there isnt wires going to the Cat so the onboard computer must base the info that the Cat is malfunctioning on the O2 sensor readings, correct?

JTrujillo86 · 01-31-2006, 07:39 PM

That's correct about the O2 sensors. There is one before the catalytic converter and one after it. The computer compares the readings from the two and makes sure the cat is doing its job. Also, the only time the engine management system takes readings from the O2 sensors is when the car is at normal temperatures. The catalytic converter can't do its job when it's cold.

- Jeremy

PotIsYourFriend · 01-31-2006, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JTrujillo86

That's correct about the O2 sensors. There is one before the catalytic converter and one after it. The computer compares the readings from the two and makes sure the cat is doing its job. Also, the only time the engine management system takes readings from the O2 sensors is when the car is at normal temperatures. The catalytic converter can't do its job when it's cold.

- Jeremy

Ok so I've gone over 20 miles so the cat had to be within temp so maybe it's fixed for now.. It can mess up again just as long as I can get my car inspected for another year then worry about it next year

BNaylor · 02-01-2006, 06:56 AM

The best thing to do is monitor it and run up some mileage. It may take several drive cycles. If it fails again be sure to get the DTC error code. Normally CAT efficiency will be a P0420. Just cross your fingers. Good luck!

PotIsYourFriend · 02-01-2006, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bnaylor3400

The best thing to do is monitor it and run up some mileage. It may take several drive cycles. If it fails again be sure to get the DTC error code. Normally CAT efficiency will be a P0420. Just cross your fingers. Good luck!

Well I took it to AutoZone to see what the Check Engine Light was on again.. I was prepared to buy an O2 sensor thinking this was the problem but he wanted to hook up the scanner to it.. And it had an error 128.. Which is the sensor for checking the engine temp for the temp gauge... Wow, does the light really need to come on keeping me from getting it inspected? I already knew it wasn't working because my temp gauge never moves... Now hopefully when I replace it, it won't come back on with another problem...

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