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Old 04-17-2003, 11:35 PM
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A proper burnout?

I see, at the drag strip and street races, cars doing standing burnouts. Their front wheels are locked and their rear tires are spinning. I rarely do burnouts (only when i need to heat up my tires) so Im wondering how these cars do it. Do they have some sort of front brake lock mechanism?

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Well, if its a automatic RWD car... you just mash the brake and stab the gas and zoowy! you've got a burnout.

If its a manual RWD car... basically the same thing... but you do one of two techniques. You can 'heel-toe' the clutch/brake/gas till where you've totally engaged the clutch and your feet are placing the brake and gas to floor. Or you can just give the car tons of gas, dump the clutch and immediatly apply the brake thus causing a burn out.

Some people say its bad for your rear brakes to do a burnout. HA is what i say to them, you ever look at how much the wear difference is between your front and rear brake pads (shoes if you have drums)? The rear brakes dont do a whole hell of a lot on most cars, the front does most of your stopping.

After looking at my friends ('70 Z28 w/ 355ci V8) rear drum brake shoes when he changed them. After all the burn outs i know he's done they hardly were worn down plus all the normal driving wear on them.
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So these people actually have their rear brakes engaged while doing these burnouts? I'll be damned before I do that sort of sh*t to my drivetrain.
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hahah yeah, they do.

Its not going to hurt your vehicle if you do it every once in a while. But if you're constantly doing it, it'll(your car) start to show signs of fatigue.

Such as, if you have an Automatic... if you're constantly doing mad burnouts you might develope slippage overtime. You also run the risk of overheating the unit from all the unnessacary load thats being put on it.

If its a Manual... well your clutch just wont love you anymore after a while. It'll protest its hatred in you by not engaging properly/slippage after a while... and shortened lifespan.

Now, unless you've got a high torque motor... I cant see how your engine will appreciate the instant load, along with moving real fast with out much cooling affect. Could run into over heating if you do a long enough burnout i suspect.

Overall, a burnout is torture to your drivetrain. Even though I said in my previous post that it doesnt do much to your rear brakes. It doesnt... but the rest of the car probably doesnt like it. hahaha.

But hey... it makes for one hell of a cool show.
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Other terms are called "foot braking" or Power braking." A lot of serious racers use line locks. This allows you to engage the front brake without the rears. This makes it very easy to do a burn out. Also remember that your rear brakes do 30% of your braking. So there will be a small point when your front's are lock but you rears haven't totally locked. Not to mention that cars with a lot of power can break loose the tires even with the brakes applied.
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hahaha how i do my burn outs is i just use my left foot, speed on the clutch, and use the toe of the right foot to keep the brake on the floor while use the heel and rev till about 4 grand, then you just drop the clutch, and voila!!! its sooo easy to burn out in a 240. although all you get is smoke coming from one tire (the passenger side rear) and all you'll see is one strip of rubber layed down ont he floor. also another important side note. when you do a burn out right, after your done, just let off the brake. while still gassing. so your car will do massive peel out to keep the tires round when you heat them up like crazy. if you just top and sit there, you'll get flat spots on your tire. i just did a crazy one 2 days ago in front of a park. my friend in his 03 max was doin little pussy peel outs in his auto max, and i'm like move aside, this is how its suppose to be done. and i smoked up the whole block hahha. i'm not too worried about the rear brakes. they barely do shit anyways, i'm more worrieda bout my tires. cuase ones your done, you see rubber chunks stuck on your lower rear 1/4 panel.
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Also remember that the ones you are watching are at a drag strip. There the cars roll over a wet spot in the concrete that is placed there to allow the back wheels to spin even more. It just makes burnouts a little easier on the car
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Also, some drag racers like to you "line lock." It's a mechanism that allows you to lock up your front brakes at a push of a button.

The most stress to your drivetrain in the process of a burn out is when the tires are just breaking traction or when the tires are just getting traction.
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brake pedal causes 70% braking in the front, 30% in the back
e-brake is 100% in the back... dont worry about having your brakes engaged.. wont hurt anything... rear pads hardly ever wear out
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Just wanted to add that there is no real benefit to warming up street tires (i.e Y,Z-rated) other than cleaning them of dirt and stuff. Z rated tires are designed to withstand the heat and stress of high MPH and are not made of soft compounds. They won't warm up and become sticky like racing slicks so don't bother doing a burn out with them.

Other than that, like they said line-lock; power-brake; heel-toe.
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I haven't been to the strip either and I'll definately be going this summer with the truck. The only question I really have is when to do the burnout. I've noticed some people will start their burnouts when other cars are staged at the light and ready to take off. When should I do it I mean I'm afraid if I did that it might start rolling foward while spinning, I don't want to rear end someone at the tree lol. So maybe just wait until they take off?
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Now you getting into the mental war of drag racing when in a serious level. Wether to make your opponenet wait and tense up. Or for you to stage first and make him feel rushed, there is a lot to it.
As far as burnouts fast cars have linelocks. Street tires burn lil bit to clean em off. Slicks burn them until you start to feel them grab and then they are ready.
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If you wanna have some fun in a parking lot doing burnouts or something, then instead of laying down water to roll through, pour a puddle of bleach and do the burnout in the bleach. Smoke will be EXTREMELY thick and very very very white. Makes burnouts looks 10x as cool!!
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hah now that i gotta try some time, i once got in trouble for burning out at the school lot right after school when all the busses were leaving and shit, but anways... keep up with the good ideas Self



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