Seth Is Gone

[BigBearWest]

As some of you might not know Seth is gone. He was starting too much shit and so on. I am just letting the rest of the team know. I don't know if this appropriate, if not Tony can delete the thread.

[civickiller]

yeah i saw that post by tony. i mean as much as i like seth, tony did the right thing. i dont know why, seth just kinda we off

[nemo_wolf]

[url]http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t97855.html[/url]

I think thats the link ...

As you can see, Seth acted unbecoming of a member of TLD. In addition to his previous outburst, Tony made the call, which is completely justified. Seth is no longer affiliated with TLD and perhaps in the future when seth has gotten over his anger problems we can bring him back to the family, but until that time please treat Seth with no disrespect. We all say harsh things while angry and tend to over exagerate them as well. Lets not dwell on this.

[Tony]

Thank you john, I don't think I could have said that better. Last night was very hectic, and a bunch of shit shouldn't have happened but did. I do not regret kicking seth for his behaviors, but there was a couple things I wish I didn't throw him into, like that chat with Ami and TJ. I should have never done that, I was acting a little irrational because I was pissed on what all he said. Once I talked to greg about him on AIM, Greg got me thinking straight again, and wishing I didn't throw seth in a chat for ami and tj to tear him about. Seth has problems, he knows he does and he wishes to get them figured out. This is what Greg made me realize again, I just didn't know how bad it was. After I realized this, I realized that with both ami and tj still chewing him out, it isn't going to help seth out a bit, could drive him to doing something very irrational. I will admit he didn't have what was coming towards him with all the shit he talked with his ZC. His ZC was his baby.

EDIT: Oh yea, I know some members will not agree with me on this, but please don't argue with it.

[amy@af]

youknow what tony? you didn't stick around for the chat neither did greg. tj & myself didn't chew him out. matter of fact....it was seth going crazy. i wanted to settle it. but as always his mouth got going and he didn't like it when proven wrong. he thought he;d be all high and mighty and try to play me by saying name what a retainer and guide are. when i told him he tried to act like i never answered and called me a whole bunch of foul names. i offered twice for him to put his zc where his mouth is. again i got nothing but foul names.

that is bull shit making excuses for him. if he has an anger problem then he should address it...not have free range to say things like "words are the least of what i'm going to do to you" when i said "give me a break" he says "yea exactly". i wasn't talking violent at him nor was i cursing at him. matter of fact, jer was sitting next to me and getting down right angry seth was speaking in that manor to ANY HUMAN being.

seth has ZERO control of his mouth and lives in a dream world. go read the thread again. i straight say my engine is a stock replacement...i don't race, nor do i claime to. i also said i am nutral with the zc vs sohc vtec because they are equally matched. his replay is "i didn't think you like to race" and something about me getting upset over the y8 :rolleyes: thats more than anger management...that is someone with diarehia of the mouth. not even reading, just verbally abusing people

you know what FUCK SETH and all he stands for. he gets zero sympathy from me. he got his second chance after his "f everyone" episode. he brought every second of it on himself.....

now you feel the need to kick me out of TLD....then so be it. giving seth my sympathy is like giving an alcoholic a drink.

generally i say....oh well, whatever....life is life. but that muther fucking prick has my blood boiling....the NERVE OF HIM

if you dish out shit...better prepare to eat some of it yourself.

[Tony]

Yes I understand your point ami, and you have a right to be pissed at him. I highly doubt that he will ever be part of TLD ever again, I can't risk that behavior again. I did not ask for you to like Seth, nor do I want you to reallly. I know everyone has thier own feelings towards others, and that is yours, I'm sure others are with you.

My point was, and still is, that once he was banned, it should have ended right there. Everyone quit and go on doing thier own thing. I hate being the type of person I am, I am very open minded, and can usually see things from both sides, which usually throws me in a bad spot.

and by no means, ami or tj, was I bitching to you about what happened in that chat. I was just staying that i regret letting him in that chat, I should have just let it end, like hopefully it will. Im tired of this bullshit, I just want it to end and everyone go back to our normal routine, instead of this shit.

i hope that came out a little bit better than my last statement, I didn't fully think about that post. Sorry ami and tj

[Melt]

I know I shouldnt even be posting up in here cause I aint a TLD member but here goes....

He didnt know when to shut up ... as you all know I dont really care what engine people decide to throw their money into weather it be a b-series, a d-series, or a ZC ... but to come into almost EVERY thread boasting about it ... geez, even the assholes at honda-tech probably wouldnt put up with his bullshit even though he sounds like he knows a lot of tech.

So anyways, he was cool when he was cool, a little mouthy at times like I was on a couple of occasions, but one of the cardinal rules of getting loud is NEVER THREATEN ANYONE or use REALLY foul language directly toward someone ... these unwritten rules are the reasons I am still posting among AF today, because I am pretty sure I was pushing the envelope, and if I didnt chill a little bit I would have surely been banned on a couple of occasions.

[GTA]

i like pepsi :D

[amy@af]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by 88CiViC_DX [/i]
[B]i like pepsi :D [/B][/QUOTE]

coke is better :finger: it has more whp caffine

[Civicsiassasin91]

Damn. Seems like i've missed tons of drama. I hate being on duty. i get cut off from the rest of the world for a few days at a time :( Im sure i'll get up to speed in a bit. I hope everything works out. seth seemed mad cool the first/only time i talked to him. Seemed like he knew his shit, and i was looking forward to learning alot from him.

Oh yea. while you guys are repin' soft drinks, SURGE had to have been the best soda ever made. I wish herpes on the dude @ coka cola, that made the call to stop distrubution.

[Civic Rush]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by LadyNRedSi [/i]
[B]youknow what tony? you didn't stick around for the chat neither did greg. tj & myself didn't chew him out. matter of fact....it was seth going crazy. i wanted to settle it. but as always his mouth got going and he didn't like it when proven wrong. he thought he;d be all high and mighty and try to play me by saying name what a retainer and guide are. when i told him he tried to act like i never answered and called me a whole bunch of foul names. i offered twice for him to put his zc where his mouth is. again i got nothing but foul names.

that is bull shit making excuses for him. if he has an anger problem then he should address it...not have free range to say things like "words are the least of what i'm going to do to you" when i said "give me a break" he says "yea exactly". i wasn't talking violent at him nor was i cursing at him. matter of fact, jer was sitting next to me and getting down right angry seth was speaking in that manor to ANY HUMAN being.

seth has ZERO control of his mouth and lives in a dream world. go read the thread again. i straight say my engine is a stock replacement...i don't race, nor do i claime to. i also said i am nutral with the zc vs sohc vtec because they are equally matched. his replay is "i didn't think you like to race" and something about me getting upset over the y8 :rolleyes: thats more than anger management...that is someone with diarehia of the mouth. not even reading, just verbally abusing people

you know what FUCK SETH and all he stands for. he gets zero sympathy from me. he got his second chance after his "f everyone" episode. he brought every second of it on himself.....

now you feel the need to kick me out of TLD....then so be it. giving seth my sympathy is like giving an alcoholic a drink.

generally i say....oh well, whatever....life is life. but that muther fucking prick has my blood boiling....the NERVE OF HIM

if you dish out shit...better prepare to eat some of it yourself. [/B]
[/QUOTE]

I could not agree with you more.........In all realiaty he asked for it but when it came he could not take it...that is not my problem that is his.... and if he does have some issues I wish the best for him but he needs to stop tryin to blame everybody else for his fuckin problems....:mad: