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Post Texas, the nucleus of evil in america.

What George W. and His Big Money
Friends Have Done to Texas
Some facts about Texas:
1. Texas executes more prisoners than any other jurisdiction in the Western World.3 Most of those executed are indigents too poor to hire their own attorneys, or they are mentally retarded or mentally ill. In some cases, Texas has executed young prisoners who were 17 when they committed the crime that led to their imprisonment. In response to the Columbine shootings, one Texas legislator wanted to lower the death penalty in Texas to age 11.4 It was probably the image of a small child being strapped to a prison gurney as the state pumped poison into a little arm that led other legislators to stop that effort. But George W. publicly supports assembly line executions now taking place in Texas.

2. Amnesty International issued a report this year [1999] citing Texas' clemency process for "violat[ing] minimum safeguards for human rights."5 Along with countries like China, Iraq and Iran, Texas ranks low in terms of according prisoners minimal human rights.

3. Texas ranks exactly 51st out of 51 states in the quality of criminal defense provided for accused defendants too poor to hire their own attorneys. "In recent years the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals has upheld death sentences in at least three cases in which the defense lawyers slept during trial."6 Yet George W. vetoed a bill that would have modestly improved the disgraceful quality of legal representation available to poor defendants in Texas.7

4. Both the civil and criminal parts of the Texas system of justice are an acknowledged public mockery of American justice. Texas justice is a system in which large corporations can be legally "forgiven" for causing the death of workers, while 9-year old little girls are essentially held responsible for their own gang-rapes.8

5. Texas ranks 48th out of 51 states in terms of conditions best for bringing up children. Texas is 3 states away from being the absolute worst state in the United States for bringing up children.9 In spite of billions of dollars of a huge budget surplus, Texas can't seem to find the spare change to provide decent conditions for children to thrive. Of course, internationally, the entire United States doesn't rank very high in terms of its treatment of children. But Texas ranks near the bottom of the barrel of the bottom of the barrel on recognized measures of child welfare: rates of child abuse and neglect; immunizations under age 2; high school dropouts; child poverty; child deaths; infant mortality; mothers not receiving prenatal care in the first three months of pregnancy; juvenile arrests; teen births and divorce. Texas ranks near the bottom of the barrel in virtually every one of these categories.

6. In one year alone, 1998, the number of children who died of abuse and neglect in Texas increased by 71 percent.10 Deaths of children in Texas from abuse and neglect have increased every single year since George W. became governor.

7. Texas is 2nd in the United States in the number of medically uninsured children (1.5 million uninsured).11 Yet George W. established eligibility to the federal/state Children's Health Insurance Program at 150% of the federal poverty level, dropping or leaving more poor children in Texas out of the insurance program.

8. Texas has the largest volume of air pollution in the United States.12 Yet George W. supported a voluntary emissions program for grandfathered industrial plants that have been exempt from pollution control since the Texas Clean Air Act was passed in 1971.13 Those exempted industrial plants in Texas are among the worst industrial polluters in the entire United States.

9. Texas ranks 50th in per capita spending.14 It had a $1.7 billion surplus in 1997 and had a $6.7 billion surplus in 1999 under George W. Yet George W. did not use these surplus billions to fund underfunded programs, such as those to prevent the 71% increase in deaths of children from abuse and neglect. They were used primarily to benefit Big Money.15

10. After the Littleton, Colorado massacre of high school students, the only gun-related bill passed by the Texas Legislature was a bill protecting gun manufacturers from lawsuits filed by cities. George W. signed that bill into law.16

11. Texas ranks eighth from the bottom among the fifty states in the number of jobless citizens who get unemployment benefits.17 Only 22 percent of jobless Texans receive unemployment benefits, compared to a national average of 35 percent.

12. Texas ranks sixth from the bottom among states in the number of residents who earn family incomes below the federal poverty level.18

13. Texas ranks 47th in the percentage of workers in unions.19

14. Texas ranks 47th in the amount of welfare for a family of three, barely at subsistence level.20

15. Texas ranks 47th in per-capita state funding for public health, while approximately 25% of its babies go without immunizations.21

16. And Texas ranks 50th in poor working parents without health insurance and 50th (as noted above) in the percentage of children with no health insurance.22

17. Finally, Texas ranks 48th in spending for parks and recreation.23

In every single major category of quality of life and protections for the health and well-being of families, especially children and the poor, Texas consistently ranks at or near the bottom of the barrel. George W.'s legacy as governor of Texas is one of compassionate cruelty, not compassionate conservatism.
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kaoru-tochiro, in another thread you said you liked Texas, but perhaps you don't. Do you have anything better to do than dog Texas b/c you hate G.W.B.? For one, I am for the death penalty and in fact I live in Huntsville home of the Huntsville State Prison. However, I think that the age you can be charged to the death penalty should be at least 18.
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Texas ranks exactly 51st out of 51 states in the quality of criminal defense provided for accused defendants too poor to hire their own attorneys. "In recent years the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals has upheld death sentences in at least three cases in which the defense lawyers slept during trial."6 Yet George W. vetoed a bill that would have modestly improved the disgraceful quality of legal representation available to poor defendants in Texas.7
There's only 50 states.
I read about a week ago that Austin was in the top 10 best cities to live in, in the U.S.
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Last I checked Texas ranked 50th in per capita spending in 1998, and we are in the top ten states in spending on nursing home care(http://www.ncsl.org/programs/health/forum/ltc/ltctx.htm )
I would also like to see sources. By the way where do you live?
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my source:

http://www.baltech.org/estep/george_w_bush_texas_2.html

I live in CT,

I don't hate Texas but I hate what Bush and his cronies are doing to it.

And the best state to live in the US is Minnesota.
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As I have warned and keep warning, Bush will be the downfall of America. His policies will further and further estrange the U.S. from its allies, as well as other nations, to the point of a total breakdown in the alliance, and we might see a showdown between the U.S. and Europe, if Bush remains President. Will you Americans vote for him if he ever runs again? That is, of course, assuming that he will still hold elections.
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watch what you say

saying that Texas is the nucleus of evil in america is stupid i used to live there

there are plenty of people on these forums who are from texas

And just cuz george Bush is from Texas gives you no right to use an offensive title such as that

I'm not going to bother reading what you posted

The title is stupid
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And just cuz george Bush is from Texas gives you no right to use an offensive title such as that

I'm not going to bother reading what you posted

The title is stupid
Why does the geographical origin of George Bush exclude kaoru-tochiro from his right to free speech?

If you are not going to read something,that's your business,but to then comment on it is to take a stand from a position of ignorance.

And Milliardo,what possible indications do you have that America might cease to hold elections?The idea is utter bunk,and offensive bunk at that.If you are going to oppose George Bush,at least try and be halfway rational about it.
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Re: Texas, the nucleus of evil in america.

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What George W. and His Big Money
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Some facts about Texas:
1. Texas executes more prisoners than any other jurisdiction in the Western World.3 Most of those executed are indigents too poor to hire their own attorneys, or they are mentally retarded or mentally ill

Actually, they dont execute mentally handicapped individuals. They instead send them to a mental institution the rest of their lives.
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The poor human rights record of Texas in terms of executions is well known- Bush only made it worse- the sooner Bush is out of a political hot seat the better.
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Actually, they dont execute mentally handicapped individuals. They instead send them to a mental institution the rest of their lives.
If the state doesn't classify/diagnose them as mentally challenged, they fry.
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That made for some fascinating reading. A much appreciated post. I have expressed my views elsewhere in this forum, and make no effort to re-iterate them other than to say Dubya is a complete and utter fuckup as far as world leaders go.
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Why does the geographical origin of George Bush exclude kaoru-tochiro from his right to free speech?

If you are not going to read something,that's your business,but to then comment on it is to take a stand from a position of ignorance.

And Milliardo,what possible indications do you have that America might cease to hold elections?The idea is utter bunk,and offensive bunk at that.If you are going to oppose George Bush,at least try and be halfway rational about it.
It doesn't stop his right to speak. It also doesn't stop people from pointing out that its a pile of crap. A lot of the problems down in Texas are caused by illegal immigration. Its open flood gates down there. The illegals are a strain on the system and those people are counted among the uninsured and welfare condition. Also the percentage of criminals (felony) from that population is far beyond their percentage makeup of the rest of the population.

The problems in Texas can be seen in California, New Mexico and Arizona. One of the things I wish were simpler in this country was legal immigration. We have got to make it easier for people to get in here and become part of society instead of sneaking in and leaching off of it.

I tried to go to the link, but it was dead. However, I went to http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/statelis.htm which have the ranking he quoted. Take a second and look at the dates. Its from 1996. Those are the numbers for Ann Richards. Not George Bush. Now its not a dramatic change but they went from being #48 to #37 (health care rankings) in the few years he was in office http://www.unitedhealthgroup.com/sr2...erallrank.html

IMO - I think the execution rate should be higher in all the states. Not only that. To make it more effective it should be as painful as possible with all the mid level felons there to watch (those who will be released some day). Let the fucker die screaming and then it will be a effective deterent. I know the punishment shouldn't be cruel, but I don't think the scum deserve any better. Ok. Off the soap box.

Anyway, people looking for facts and figures can go http://www.census.gov/ for some raw numbers.













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Re: Re: Re: Texas, the nucleus of evil in america.

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If the state doesn't classify/diagnose them as mentally challenged, they fry.
Yes, this is true, but they dont fry mentally handicapped people, as in those who were mentally challenged at the time of the crime. What you've said above is something that I already know, which basically adds on to what I said in the first place. You are either one or the other, above is what happens if you are NOT mentally challenged.
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Nice post Yogs. The immigrants are a HUGE problem here. Hell just right in front of my neighborhood 2 or 3 people(may be more) have been killed in car accidents caused by illegal immigrants. And if you commit the crime, do the time. And if you murder someone you deserve to die(unless of course they are too young to know better, or are mental),IMO.
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Your so full of lies. Why don't you come on down here and all of us evil Texxans will show you the light. Many of the reasons Texas has problems is the mass influx of yankees like yourself from the 70's. Your yankee states couldn't even provide work. We have a saying down here
There are two types of yankees,
Yankees which go back home and damned yankees that stay here. Texas is and always will be the best known state and most loved. You also seem to forget that we're the largest state except for Alaska.

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As I have warned and keep warning, Bush will be the downfall of America. His policies will further and further estrange the U.S. from its allies, as well as other nations, to the point of a total breakdown in the alliance, and we might see a showdown between the U.S. and Europe, if Bush remains President. Will you Americans vote for him if he ever runs again? That is, of course, assuming that he will still hold elections.

Millardo you don't have a clue. Your damned rantings continue to show your ignorance. Yes I will vote for Bush and your mention of him allowing elections is one of the most stupid statements ever posted in this forum.
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