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Yes, let people have them, and lighten up on the policies. 11 57.89%
No, regulate them more. 8 42.11%
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Old 10-25-2001, 07:10 PM
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Guns, for them, or against them.

What is your view on guns? Are you for them, or against them? Please explain. I will reply when a few posts get put up.
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Old 10-25-2001, 07:29 PM
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I'm okay with you (the reader, not necessarily Kris) haveing a gun, as long as you're not a psycho, and as long as you won't let a psycho or a kid use it.

How to decide who's a psycho, and how to enforce it is beyond me.

This is not to say I want them banned.

I like the idea of the "smart gun" that will only fire if it can read the fingerprint of the owner holding it. I don't know how feasable or practical that is, though.

I'm in favor of more regulation on the possession of guns, because the wrong people have them all too often.
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Old 10-25-2001, 07:56 PM
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I'm okay with you (the reader, not necessarily Kris) haveing a gun, as long as you're not a psycho, and as long as you won't let a psycho or a kid use it.

How to decide who's a psycho, and how to enforce it is beyond me.

This is not to say I want them banned.

I like the idea of the "smart gun" that will only fire if it can read the fingerprint of the owner holding it. I don't know how feasable or practical that is, though.

I'm in favor of more regulation on the possession of guns, because the wrong people have them all too often.
Have you seen Judge Dredd? It's sorta like that. I'm all for guns in the same way Jay is, they need stricten acquistion methods, but don't regulate the criteria or other things. Just make sure somebody is serious enough (and not Psychotic) to wield a firearm. My friend has like 12 guns, but he hunts and so does his dad, he's quite responible, so that's why I'm writing this statement the way I am.
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I think people have the right to own guns.... it should be harder for somebody with a record getting guns, and the government has to find a way to eliminate illegal guns.
but all in all if you're a regular guy that maybe wants protection at home or somethin, i'm all for it... I won't be tryin to rob your house. Just make sure the kids don't get it!!!!! that is the main problem, cause younger kids don't know as much of what's right and wrong

Guns don't kill people, people kill people
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I am all for gun ownership. No need to go into the arguements about owneship (yet), but have tough access to guns is good. Having gun controls for law abiding citizens is bad.













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Having gun controls for law abiding citizens is bad.
this is one of the things that really pisses me off.... really good people have soo much trouble owning and getting guns, while the criminals easily get their illegal guns. That doesn't solve anything, it's not like some criminal guy is going to get a legit gun!!
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Guns don't kill people, people kill people
Someday I am going to get that Shirt off Happy Gilmore "Guns don't Kill people, I do"


BTW, that's true about the gun thing, my frined (The Hunter) had to go to a course to make sure you're not a psycho and talk to the police, take hours of useless classroom course and so on to get his gun, that's for a Hunter's Firearm liscense in Canada.
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what a hassle and waste of tax dollars!!

I remember there used to be a sign that a farmer put up so people on the highway could see on the way to toronto, when they were makin all the firearm laws worse a couple years ago. I don't remember what it said, but it was something like the government is stupid or like criminals are going to get guns anyway... some stupid shit

but every gun owner in canada has to get that licence now, you've seen the commercials haven't you canadian boys?
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Yep, apparenlty there was going to be a big boycott on that or something. I also once saw a Farmer wit a gunrack (And Gun!) on the back of his like 87' Ford Pickup. I had a chuckle.
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I also once saw a Farmer wit a gunrack (And Gun!) on the back of his like 87' Ford Pickup. I had a chuckle.
LOL!! what a redneck!!
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I totally think people should have the right to bear arms. I have only shot a pellet gun before, but I like knowing that with training I could have security... Atleast in the US, the laws that exist are plenty. All we need is a way to enforce some of them. In today's society, criminals wouldn't attack others as often if the possibility was large of that person blowing a hole through them the size of a basketball!!!
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In NZ you can own a rifle if you're licensed but not an automatic.
You CANNOT own a hand gun here unless you are police, military or have a special collectors license etc.
Our police may carry them if they wish but very few choose to. Armed offenders usually get dealt with by the armed offenders squad (swat team) or the special tactics unit (secret service group - more selective than S.A.S.).
I have only seen one hand gun (firearm not airgun) in real life (on the hip of a policewoman at the airport) and I like it that way.
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I dont have a problem with guns, In fact I have to say I like them, they have thier use's, and on thier own are about as harmfull as a steel bar or a kitchen knife.

I do however have a problem with people. And since im not allowed to regulate the people, then there is little choice but to regulate the guns. Its at a loss to the people who know what to do with them, but I think you have to look at the potential greater gain.
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I strongly believe in the right to bare arms. Take guns away from the public and you leave them vunerable to the criminals whos guns are most likely illegal already.

Although I did vote for more control as I think that would save some lives.
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I hear Texas's conceal and carry laws have GREATLY reduced shooting related crimes, but I have no proof of that, but yeah, if everyone has guns, no one's going to use them on anyone. I mean, it works out just like nukes. Sure, we dropped one on Hiroshima many years ago, but we were the only ones with one. Now, since everyone has one, no one would DARE use them, as it would mean total destruction.

For example, some guy just wouldn't bust in a store with a gun to rob it, because everyone else has guns too! Or atleast, I know I wouldn't, unless I were looking for assisted suicide. I say gun control is out of control.
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