decal bonder/air brush tips question

[brady_381need72c10]

first question-
i have a can of decal bonder product id testors #9200 now can it be used to help adhesion of kit decals?

2nd question-
i have an aztek a370 air brush and im wondering whats the best way to clean tips as in meaning can i use hot water and mild dish detergant???
hhhhhhhheeeelllpppppp!!!!

[klutz_100]

ad Q2: if those are the same removable plastic tips that are on my Aztek 470 then just separate them into 3 parts (body, nozzle and needle/spring) and just soak them to your heart's content in cellulose thinners. Hot water and detergent isn't going to be very effective at all (but it'll be gentle to your hands )

[brady_381need72c10]

Originally Posted by klutz_100

ad Q2: if those are the same removable plastic tips that are on my Aztek 470 then just separate them into 3 parts (body, nozzle and needle/spring) and just soak them to your heart's content in cellulose thinners. Hot water and detergent isn't going to be very effective at all (but it'll be gentle to your hands )

i dont think mine breaks down into three different parts!!!

[klutz_100]

Originally Posted by brady_381need72c10

i dont think mine breaks down into three different parts!!!

If they look like this then they do.

But maybe your AB uses different tips?

[brady_381need72c10]

this is mine-
http://www.testors.com/product/13722.../_/Black_.40mm

[klutz_100]

Originally Posted by brady_381need72c10

this is mine-
http://www.testors.com/product/13722.../_/Black_.40mm

That's exactly the same type - just a different needle size.
You can separate it as I described above or just soak it in thinners.

[brady_381need72c10]

ok so i can seperate them!
do you have a pic of one seperated so i know where to seperate them at with out tearring one up!
good lord nows i cant afford to replace one at 12/13 dollars a piece!

[klutz_100]

Originally Posted by brady_381need72c10

do you have a pic of one seperated so i know where to seperate them at with out tearring one up!

No I don't - sorry.
But the tips are only made up of three pieces so it's not exactly rocket science
First of all pull apart the main external body and the large plastic part that is inserted inside it. Then with a pair of tweezers pull out the needle part (the bit that springs up and down when you push it) by pulling on the plastic base.

If you are at all worried then don't pull it apart, just soak them in the appropriate thinners for the paint you used. However, from experience I know that the spring inside tends to get a bit clogged up and is hard to get fully clean without separating the nozzle.

NB the most important thing with these Aztek plastic air brushes is to remember to resist the urge to mix the paint in the cup by back-flushing. This will push paint back inside the sealed body and after a while things will get creaky, jammed and cellulose thinner may even eat the air hoses inside the body. This is not covered by the life time guarantee AFAIK. Aztek make clear statement about not back flushing these brushes.

[Didymus]

The decal bonder is meant to be applied to decals while they're still on the original decal paper. If you plan to use old, dried-out decals that might fall apart when you apply them, spray them with this stuff first.

Some people also use it to seal home-made decals to keep water-soluble inkjet ink from running. I haven't had much success with it; even after many coats, the ink starts dissolving when the decal is soaked in water. Krylon Crystal Clear seals a lot better IMO.

There might be other uses for Testors "decal bonder," but I don't know what they are.

Ddms

[brady_381need72c10]

Originally Posted by Didymus

The decal bonder is meant to be applied to decals while they're still on the original decal paper. If you plan to use old, dried-out decals that might fall apart when you apply them, spray them with this stuff first.
Ddms

what im trying to say here is can it be used like "decal set"!

[taliesen]

No.

[brady_381need72c10]

Originally Posted by taliesen

No.

DARN!!!

[Didymus]

Originally Posted by brady_381need72c10

what im trying to say here is can it be used like "decal set"!

To quote the sign on the boss's parking space: "Don't even think about it!"

Ddms

[brady_381need72c10]

Originally Posted by Didymus

To quote the sign on the boss's parking space: "Don't even think about it!"

Ddms

well both questions have been answered so thanx guys!!!

[kans0002]

hey klutz,

got any advice on using those aztek airbrushes? i went out and got the top of the line one and i hate it, i could never get it to work propery. i tried all the different tips, and tried different degrees of thinning my paint, and i could get it to shoot worth a damn. did you have any issues when you first started out? got any tips? or maybe i have a defect...i have two badger ab's that work like a dream. teach me oh great one