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Old 03-12-2003, 12:50 AM
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How soon will we see a more powerful Murci . . .

From QV500.com . . .

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But as fast as their V12 model up to 150mph and around £25,000 less expensive, the Gallardo could be the Murcielago's biggest threat, not least as Luc Donckerwolke's bodywork so closely resembles its bigger brother. Indeed, after Audi's acquisition of Lamborghini in 1998, they initially contracted Ital Design to clothe the car although this bodywork was later discarded and the project handed to Donckerwolke, so enthusiastically had his Murcielago been received back in 2001. Subsequently refined in Audi's Ingolstadt wind tunnel, the Gallardo's aluminium bodywork is fabricated in Germany and then shipped to Italy where it's riveted, bolted and welded to the spaceframe. The front is clearly influenced by the Murcielago with its gaping radiator ducts and distinctive headlight treatment, Donckerwolke also incorporating some family details at the back. Indeed, no less than five meshed grilles can be found on the tail facia whilst banks of vents on the engine lid and rear wings, the prominent venturis and that gearbox casing can make it seem a little cluttered. A jutting chin spoiler and electronically adjustable rear wing improve high speed stability and minimise lift but, unlike the Murcielago, the Gallardo uses traditional doors, those famous scissor-type items so often a feature of Lamborghini supercars having been ditched. But although the Murcielago has the doors and the Gallardo gets unique nineteen-inch wheels, you get the impression that, so fundamentally similar are these two designs (and so close their performance) that the new model cannot fail to take sales away from its V12-engined brother.
I fear they are correct. If the Gallardo is as fast as the V12 to 150mph and is cheaper, the Murci is going to be even more of a hard sell. Of course there are those people (such as myself ) who would by the V12 regardless (I want the best and the doors), but there are many who would opt for the cheaper car that is just as fast.

It is time to give the two year old Murci a boost in the arm??
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Yes, Murcielago SV. Bring it now!!!

What they could do, but ptobably wont is make an SV, with rwd, this would make it lighter and a sportier car...less control and cornering speed, but the buyers it would be aimed at dont want this!

Some extra Air intakes just like the Diablo SV, a nice heafty 600BHP shouldnt be hard to achieve, AND! an alloy frame is highly needed!!! in fact stop all murcielago production, and make an update with the alloy chassis, it needs this to keep up in technology with the Gallardo, and also an optional E-Gear on the Murc as an option... All this will make a nice car... New features added, weight reduced, and a SV model with RWD and some nice sporty stylings. That is what will make me like the Murc alot more, atm i still favour the diablo.
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i think the gallaro will loose about 1 or 1 1/2 seconds to 124mph! then the murci will "cruise" away
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Yes, Murcielago SV. Bring it now!!!
and also an optional E-Gear on the Murc as an option... All this will make a nice car... New features added, weight reduced, and a SV model with RWD and some nice sporty stylings.
It would be quite a feat to add features and still reduce weight. But i suppose if its just RWD that will lighten the car up a fair bit.
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Well the only feature added would be E-gear as an option, and that shouldnt make it heavier, maybe it could even be slightly lighter.. but anyway it shouldnt change much, the other additions were ones that reduced weight.. RWD, and the alloy frame should be able to drop the weight by up to 10%. Of course i would only want RWD on an SV model, im not against AWD being on a regular model, just an option of a sportier model would be nice.
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What is the E-gear? Like the F1 flipper on the Vanquish or the Ferrari 550?
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What is the E-gear? Like the F1 flipper on the Vanquish or the Ferrari 550?

Yes
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i agree, Lamborghini should come out with an SV version, and please hopefully that prototype gets put into production
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I thing they should think of a stronger murcie...fast before noone will talk about it and buy it any more then it will be like the murcie is already extinct!
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I would be happy to see one that is necessarily the fastest supercar, but one that is of a "higher state of tune". Perhaps around 600-650bhp. I still like the AWD so I guess it would not be the lightest but it would still be competitive with the likes of the Enzo, Zonda, etc.
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Old 03-13-2003, 03:25 PM
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i think they should really keep the all wheel drive, because like alot of sport cars have only rear wheel drive so you can go in any kind of weather , thats the great part, and also they should add power so it should be like 600-750bhp, and last but not least mad a more "bad ass" look kind of like those desingns like the diablo but not exactly because then it will be pretty much the same !
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I asked the tech at the Lamborghini dealership if he thought they would release a fast Murc. He said he pretty sure they will in a year or more. He also mentioned that there is a good chance they wouldn' be turbo charging it.
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I don't think Lamborghini will ever turbo charge one of its models.. (at least I've never heard of one - unless modded).. it's not the Lambo way.. all the power comes directly from the engine! If they want more, they improve the engine so it delivers more! that's a pure sportscar way! besides, it's safer as turbos are a common maintenance problem!

if you check the GT and GTR Diablos, you'll notice that neither one is turbocharged! they have simply less weight, improved dynamics and an improved engine.
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OH !!! ... and I just can't wait too see the GT Murci and the GTR on the race track!!
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believe me many different versions will come out!
like the diablo and countach

all 1-2 years a new modell with more hp or other improvements was developed.
so let´s wait and see.

maybe one day there is a rear weal drive murielago 7.0 SE GTR
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