Wha Is Better Amd Athlon 2800 Xp Or A Pentium 4 Processor???

[corvettezman]

Ok my friend and I were betting on which one is better and faster. So is s AMD 2800XP ATHLON OR A PENTIUM 4 BETTER OR FASTER???

[Oz]

Well, since you have specified the speed AND type of one chip, but only the type of another it is hard to be very decisive. But in general an AMD chip at the same mhz as a P4 chip will murder it so badly in every test it will make your eyes water. That is why AMDs naming no longer reflects the actual speed of a chip. It works the other way around too - comparing an AMD and a P4 chip of the same performance, the AMD runs at a consistantly lower clock speed.

Hope this clears it up,

Oz

[1985_BMW318i]

AMD's Athlon XP is far superior to Intel's P4. Unless you use rambus ram with the intel it will never reach its performance level. Also Asus's A7N8X will run PC3200 DDR at 6400 MHZ. Thats faster then the current fastest available Rambus. AMD's are less expensive and typically the motherboards and DDR ram for them are also less expensive. In the long run the AMD system costs less and is also more reliable based on computers I've build, including the two I've built for my wife and myself

[GTStang]

The new P4 mobo's with the Granite Bay chipset by Intel that support dual channel ddr blow away anything on the market right now including Rambus. The P4's overclock much better. Best stable overclock for a P4 is 4GHZ, not using something ridiculous like liquid nitrogeen cooling. The AMD 2800 is based on the same AMd core from before. The will not match the P4's until the come out with thier new core structure sometime next fall I believe.

[Neutrino]

Originally posted by GTStang
The new P4 mobo's with the Granite Bay chipset by Intel that support dual channel ddr blow away anything on the market right now including Rambus. The P4's overclock much better. Best stable overclock for a P4 is 4GHZ, not using something ridiculous like liquid nitrogeen cooling. The AMD 2800 is based on the same AMd core from before. The will not match the P4's until the come out with thier new core structure sometime next fall I believe.

Well yeah you are right that dual channel DDR was proven to be faster than rambus even on intel aplications. And P4 overclock much better--maybe to some extent but not by much and that is because the current atlon architecture reached its life anyway. BTw that 4Gh P4 was overclocked using a kryotech case and that is a form of exotic cooling not available to anyone mayly because of price.

Also the next architecture aka the hammer procesors that are comming from AMD will be here in a few months not next fall and they will not match the P4 they will create a new league.

[GTStang]

Ok I was wrong about the when the new AMD come out. But the question was which is better. P4 overclocks better(even if slight), with dual ddr same speed it beats the Athlon. The P4 line does have a higher clock without overclocking. When AMD's new proccesor comes out wil it be better than the P4 yes probably but that was the question. As for the cooling I don't feel it is any more exotic than liquid cooling.

[Neutrino]

Originally posted by GTStang
Ok I was wrong about the when the new AMD come out. But the question was which is better. P4 overclocks better(even if slight), with dual ddr same speed it beats the Athlon. The P4 line does have a higher clock without overclocking. When AMD's new proccesor comes out wil it be better than the P4 yes probably but that was the question. As for the cooling I don't feel it is any more exotic than liquid cooling.

i am an amd fan but i will admit the p4 has a slight edge on the amd right now but that is because the current amd platform reached its end....there is no point in developing it now that why is being abandoned.

But i would still say a 700$ cryotech case that can cool the CPU at -40 C is not a casual way to cool a case way more rare that water cooling anyway.

[YogsVR4]

I've been a fan of AMD for quite some time now. The only downside to the chip is the amount of heat it produces. It does get hotter then the P4, but beyond that its a great performer for what I do (database application development).

[TheRebirth]

AMD

new barton core r0x0rs your b0x0rs (sorry...had to say it...)

[Polygon]

Just because a processor will overclock more than another does not make it better. I used to be a fan of Intel processors until the P4. They decided that they didn't want to support SMP (symmetrical multi processing) with their mainstream processors anymore meaning that you had to buy the Xeon which was very expensive and worthless for multimedia type applications. This pissed me off being a person that actually uses both my processors and I need dual processing, I won't go back to one. Sure you can do dual P4s now, but the only boards available are server type boards. I am not building a server, I don't want a damn server board, and I don't want an Intel board either. I don't trust their dual chipsets anymore.

I have decided that AMD makes the better processors. Intel needs to wake up and realize that the life of X86 architecture is outdated. They need to redesign their processors. The AMD processors simply emulate X86 as they are a different architecture all together. They are just as fast if not faster than the P4 and they have to emulate the X86 architecture, which is impressive. With the new Opteron out and the new Athlon line, which used to known as the Clawhammer, the P4 is going to be left in the dust. With AMD I can get the best dual processor chipsets that allow me to do whatever I want.

AMD right now is the better manufacture. Intel needs to rework its marketing and its processors. Also the Xeon better watch out, the Opteron is coming.

[Rufes1]

Personally I, probably along with others have dislike pentium for some time. Mainly because of there overpriceness.. well at least here in :aus

I have the amd 2200XP and really cant speak highly enough of it. Runs between 38 - 50 degress celsius..

[TheNotoriousMogg]

AMD by far I had a p4 2.0 and it was nothin but problems my AMD rocks though

[gigatron]

Right now the best there is, is the newewst P4s. AMD's cost less and the value:money ratio I guess would favor AMD.. although the latest processors it would favor P4.

[Webmaster_Zeus]

It depends on your definition of better or faster.

But generally speaking, the lower end AMD wins (cost factor to speed factor ratio), but intel takes the cake for the higher end.

For most server application, Intel have proven to be better then AMD, and Intel overclocks way better then AMD.

Also Intel have HyperThearding technology (it doesn't really make much difference, but every little bit helps).

I myself personally prefer Intel, as with AMD is still structured like the Intel architecture, u still have your ax, bx, cx, and dx register, and eax etc registers, but subtle/major differences.

But at the range your specifying, I'm giving my thumbs up for Intel.

[AC_A340-500]

And the winner is:

Apple G5 processor

hmmm I didn't really answer the question, did I?!