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#1
02-05-2003, 09:05 PM
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ANOTHER first bike question..
Kinda sucks that the majority of this forum is made up of questions about first bike... but oh well...
Many of you guys have given approval of the cbr600 as a good first bike. Now I'm curious to how that compares to a gsxr600 for a first bike. I've been thinking about the sv650 for a long time.. butt I'm starting to lean towards the gixxer now... so give my your 2 cents or 3 cents or whatever, please. 
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#2
02-06-2003, 09:33 PM
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The GSX600R is NOT a very good beginner bike.
GREAT poser bike. GREAT bike for someone who is going to ride it 6 months, crash and then sell it, never to ride again. GREAT bike for the track. The GSX-R line require's that a new to sportbike/bike rider be mature enough to learn how to ride the bike within his or her limits (which are VERY narrow when first starting out). Unfortunantly the bike is capable of WAY more than a new rider can use, or even recognize. That a new rider would even consider a GSX-R as his or her first bike generally rules out that required maturity. The bike is a race bred street bike (much more so than the f2/f3/f4/f41 Hondas). The reason so many say that a CBR is a good first/beginner bike is because it is generally the least focused of the 600's (The CBR600RR not withstanding). Personally a modern IL4 600 is NOT a good beginner bike as most have 100 hp in a 400+lb bike and all that plastic/aluminum gets real expensive to replace, real fast. For a first bike, go used. Kawasaki Ninja 500 or a SV650. Take both the beginner and advanced MSF classes (any new rider would be a FOOL not to), ride the used bike a year, getting 10K miles or so under their belts and then go crazy with the latest/fastets/biggest insurance payments you can afford. If you really want to ride well, it's the best (possibly only) way to go about it. hth, Bill :bandit:
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#3
02-07-2003, 09:25 AM
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^ Couldn't have said much more, so here's my addition:
Buy the gear. "Dress up to go down" as they say. Gloves, jacket, boots and helmet at the VERY least. Your life is worth more than beach shorts and flip-flops.
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#4
02-07-2003, 01:17 PM
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BVIA basically nailed that on the head. the f4i is the least track tuned bike out of all the 600's out there, however that does not mean that you are safe on it. You still have the same exact power as all the rest, the only thing that is different is your comfort level on the bike (riding position, foot pegs, etc). So again, if you look at any of the other posts about getting a motorcycle for your first , you will see the exact same recommendations over and over. And like BVIA said, even after you read all this, if you still think you should get a sportbike for your first motorcycle, then you are just going to raise all our insurance rates more, got it?
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......or if your a loser who drives a Civic with a type R sticker, racing stripes, blasting really bad rap music through your suburban area with your pretentious "I’m 21 but I’m still in high school girlfriend" while driving with your hand up on the top of the steering wheel exposing your underdeveloped pasty white vitamin deficient arm and wearing your backwards BS upside down visor hat while feeling the tacky as a "Florida vacation" single diamond earring in your ear, If you are this person...with any luck the sun in its precise celestial positioning as you putter on by...will reflect its scorching rays into your earring, bouncing intensely in your rearview, and finally making contact with your eyes through the thin cheap lense of $5 gas station Oakley rip off glasses.. then burning your retnal cones into smoldering melting gobs of ocular material as you are blinded by the purest form of energy in our known universe, and as you scream no one can help or hear you because they don’t know what’s going on since the weed whacker sound of your shitty tiny little muffler which makes the Civic sound like a 747 rages on underneath making everyone turn at disgust and comment to thier husbands or wives how much of a dickweed you are by attaching that automotive abnormality to your stock economical daily driver engineered by Japanese Automotive specialists to fit the needs for entry level business workers in their early 30's, however your pathetic looking $11,000 car which you want to look like a friggin spaceship with redundant ground effects is now out of control since you are blinded, and as your car plunges off the side of a cliff while you scream in the purest form of terror while knowing you have lived a horrid excuse for a life, by doing the bare minimum in every facet of existence, while getting fired from one pathetic job to another, the majority of your time spent slacking smoking dope, getting kicked out of school, polishing your "game" on sweet innocent underage girls you eventually 'de flower' through exhaustive yet succesful attempts to get the date rapist drugs you have stashed in the glove compartment, into your poor victims drinks while offering them to take the "Pepsi Challenge" while making your mother hate you, and your poor father who wishes he had a daughter instead of your pathetic ass, since a girl would be more of a man than you ever were, like the occasion when you were hit in the arm by a wild pitch in little league, then you cried like a fat kid who dropped his ice cream cone, I'm already envisioning you impacting the rocks below, in a spectacular fireball ignited from the residue hairspray from your girlfriend plastered in the fabric passenger seat, blinded by your earring, deafened by the loud "Bling Blingin", and I will smile and roll around on the ground in orgasmic delight while you are consumed by flames whose intense heat and fury will liquefy your bone marrow that I will use to make jelly beans out of and eat them happily at your funeral as midgets dressed like Alex 6005321 from "A Clockwork Orange" dance around your coffin to loud industrial style techno music and strobe lights, and I will sleep soundly at night knowing another successful conquest of Darwinism has been attained.
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#5
02-12-2003, 05:36 PM
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A friend of mine bought a YZF600 for a first bike. This is not the R6 model, this is the "other" 600 made by Yammie. Not bad and comfy. It really reminds of the F4 before it became an F4i. It was cheap. I think he paid $6600 out the door with an Arai helmet.
He had to have a new bike for his first but I still don't recommend buying new to start out on. Dropping a brand new bike would kill me and that seems like it will happen the most. I dropped my first one and so did the most of the people I know. 
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#7
02-14-2003, 11:03 AM
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Hey, thanks for all the input guys.. I think I'm going with the SV. Butt my bike won't even happen for a long while..
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