Which is the best model

[Integra14]

Which is the Best overall model to build!!! help!!

[djmr2]

maybe u can be a little bit less ambiguous

there is no BEST OVERALL model

[Murco]

It really depends on the overall modeller!!

If you want the best overall model for you, evaluate your level of expertise, knowledge of cars (particularly the one your looking to build), and the level to which you plan to build it.
If your a great painter, Tamiya or Fujimi is you brand as they are mostly curbsiders with little detail beyond the body. Production builders (those who value quantity over quality) who amass large collections of built-ups love these kits as they are quickly built, require little clean-up work, and are nicely molded.
If you are a great detailer, Revell is your brand as they come complete with engines and complete drivetrains. Revell kits, when built by skilled hands, are unbeatable on a contest table as the detailing opprotunity available with an engine cannot be overcome by a perfect paint job.
If you are a master builder, try scratch-building an engine/drivetrain for that Tamiya model, opening the hood, and backing that "perfectly molded body" with some creativity and imagination, and build something other than what was pictured on the box!!

[rcmaxx]

murco i sense sarcasm in you tamiya comments, I dont wan to start a flame war, even know I will, but there are plaenty of Tamiya kits with engines. which when placed along with a revell will make it drop dead, but It all depends on the modeler, just because it does'nt have a engine does'nt mean its not a contest winning model.

NOTE< I am not rooting for tamiya
NOTE< I am not rooting for revell

[Toksin]

Well said

[kicker1_solo]

the Revell ITR is the best of course

[Honoturtle]

One thing bad about Tamiya, their engine bays, Revell usually has a whole bunch of wires and such molded into the fender areas!!! For ex., Revell ITR. I got a R32 Skyline from Tamiya and there's not really any detail in the bay. that's just me, I mean I love both Tamiya and Revell kits!

[Mikke]

Originally posted by Murco
It really depends on the overall modeller!!

If you want the best overall model for you, evaluate your level of expertise, knowledge of cars (particularly the one your looking to build), and the level to which you plan to build it.
If your a great painter, Tamiya or Fujimi is you brand as they are mostly curbsiders with little detail beyond the body. Production builders (those who value quantity over quality) who amass large collections of built-ups love these kits as they are quickly built, require little clean-up work, and are nicely molded.
If you are a great detailer, Revell is your brand as they come complete with engines and complete drivetrains. Revell kits, when built by skilled hands, are unbeatable on a contest table as the detailing opprotunity available with an engine cannot be overcome by a perfect paint job.
If you are a master builder, try scratch-building an engine/drivetrain for that Tamiya model, opening the hood, and backing that "perfectly molded body" with some creativity and imagination, and build something other than what was pictured on the box!!

Of course, the really unbeatable models are Tamiya models WITH engine detail (Ferrari 360s, GT cars etc etc)

[erix7]

Originally posted by rcmaxx
murco i sense sarcasm in you tamiya comments, I dont wan to start a flame war, even know I will, but there are plaenty of Tamiya kits with engines. which when placed along with a revell will make it drop dead, but It all depends on the modeler, just because it does'nt have a engine does'nt mean its not a contest winning model.

NOTE< I am not rooting for tamiya
NOTE< I am not rooting for revell

Just compare Tamiya's Mustang Cobra R with the
Revell-Monogram kit: there are more parts underneath the
bonnet in the RM kit than the total parts count in the Tamiya kit !
Mid-80ies Tamiya kits had great engine detail, later ones are simplified.
Simplified engine bays don't look as good and it is a pain to paint the details.

As for Revell vs Tamiya, I'd go for Hasegawa

just my 2 Eurocents
-- Eric.

[Mikke]

Originally posted by erix7


Just compare Tamiya's Mustang Cobra R with the
Revell-Monogram kit: there are more parts underneath the
bonnet in the RM kit than the total parts count in the Tamiya kit !
Mid-80ies Tamiya kits had great engine detail, later ones are simplified.
Simplified engine bays don't look as good and it is a pain to paint the details.

As for Revell vs Tamiya, I'd go for Hasegawa

just my 2 Eurocents
-- Eric.

Tamiya's Mustang Cobra R is probably one of the worst kits they've made EVER. Not a very good comparison, IMHO.

NOTE: I'm not rooting for either, though - both manufacturers do something better than another. Revell-Monogram's '53 Corvette is still the worst kit I've seen

[TheSyndicate]

YOu guys are too rich! I can buy 3 revell kits for the price of one tamiya kit.

[OPM]

you can buy 10 tamiya parts for the cut off fingers you get when you build fucked up revell kits

okay,i never build a revell usa kit,but revell germany sucks so much...

folks,give me more tamiya!

[ZoomZoomMX-5]

okay,i never build a revell usa kit,but revell germany sucks so much...

Yes, Revell AG do suck pretty bad compared to others. And it's because Revell AG is only a marketing company and doesn't make models, they just farm out the design and production to other companies (this may now change, as the new owner of Revell purchased both Revell USA and Revell AG). Their models could never, ever compare with the latest stuff that Revell USA has been making. I can look at the new Mini and the Mercedes 600 in unbuilt form and guarantee they aren't nearly to the level of Revell USA products. The Modena Spider...well, the parts are pretty decent but one look at the body had me almost crying, it's so bad compared to Tamiya. You will spend hours fixing stuff like sink marks and mold lines on the Revell Modena that you would spend minutes on the Tamiya. Okay, my Revell Modena Spider cost only 10 bucks, the cheapest I can find a Tamiya is 30 bucks. I'm not convinced buying the Revell was a good choice...

New Revell USA kits are a great value-they have a lot of detail, are "friendly" to build-meaning no big hassles...and (at least in the US) they cost about 1/2 to 1/3 as much as a Tamiya kit. You can't get a Fujimi Integra for 9 bucks, and it certainly won't have an engine, nor 3 or more building variations in one box.

Revell USA bodies are not as finely molded as Tamiya. Tamiya uses very expensive molds and materials, and it shows. Revell bodies require a bit more cleanup. As Revell has shown on the models they've designed in the last 5 years, they can match or beat Tamiya on details, if not on mold/part quality. When you take cost as a consideration, Revell is clearly a better value. If cost is no object, Tamiya models are hard to beat. Many are willing to pay a premium for the premium "experience".

Being pinned down to say what's the "best" model is impossible, that's different for each individual. Revell's ITR and '32 Fords are probably the best kits going for detail/fun-to-build qualities and being affordable. Those two kits are probably the most popular I've ever seen-people build multiple variations, just go to a model show and see how many are successfully completed. One way to judge how good a kit is would be how much you want to build another one after the first...and the ITR and '32 Fords have many repeat builders. Revell's fenderless '34 Ford snap kit was a blast to build, and it was incredibly easy to detail-and looks fantastic built. For full-detail, my favorite two kits were the Tamiya Modena Spider and Mercedes S 600 coupe-incredible detail, easy to build into perfect replicas. Almost any Tamiya curbside would qualify as perfection. Vive la difference

[OPM]

great post.ship me some revell usa kits,i check them

[Veyron]

Originally posted by Murco
It really depends on the overall modeller!!

If you want the best overall model for you, evaluate your level of expertise, knowledge of cars (particularly the one your looking to build), and the level to which you plan to build it.
If your a great painter, Tamiya or Fujimi is you brand as they are mostly curbsiders with little detail beyond the body. Production builders (those who value quantity over quality) who amass large collections of built-ups love these kits as they are quickly built, require little clean-up work, and are nicely molded.
If you are a great detailer, Revell is your brand as they come complete with engines and complete drivetrains. Revell kits, when built by skilled hands, are unbeatable on a contest table as the detailing opprotunity available with an engine cannot be overcome by a perfect paint job.
If you are a master builder, try scratch-building an engine/drivetrain for that Tamiya model, opening the hood, and backing that "perfectly molded body" with some creativity and imagination, and build something other than what was pictured on the box!!

It also depends on where you're at in your "modeling career". I'm 41(ZoomZoom is 42) and when I was a kid most models had engines unless they were a promo model. Detailing was done with whatever you could scrounge up, like thread for plug wires etc. No aftermarket detail supplies were available. I didn't build much from age 20 to 32 and when I returned to the hobby, all the photo etch, BMF and machined aluminum parts had been developed. I thought I was going to fully detail every model I built because it's so much easier now. I soon found out that it was unrealistic to to build them all that way, especially as my collection grew and grew. Besides, I built enough engines when I was a kid to fill a dump truck! These days I'd rather build a curbside, even if it's an engined kit I often choose to glue on the hood making it a curbside.
I've done the building for contest thing, and have many trophies I won in curbside categories and detailed categories. Just because a model has an engine doesn't make it a "contest winning model". I don't really like the wires molded into the chassis like the ITR either. If you're going to detail that model, sand those off and add real wire. There are plenty of ways to add creativety to a curbside model without scratch building an engine also.
Anywho, I'll choose quantity over your so called "quality" any day, I have too many to build without spending time on an engine bay that will be covered 99% of the time anyway.