prelude type S engine

[Phily]

what's up my car brothers!!
i'm just wondering if its possible to get a prelude type S engine into my prelude with its 220hp engine!!!!!

(first off what's the designation for that ? H22c ? )

also how much is it to get it? w/ and w/o installation?

[Guiddy]

I wouldn't bother! For the money it costs I would simply mod your H22A!
I have driven a Type-S, and isn't all that!
If anything it is the ATTS that helps it feel quick as it is much better at putting the drive down!
You have much potential in what you have! Mod that and save the hassle!

[Phily]

Oh serious!!!
hmmm......well i guess its time for DC sports!!!!!!!

[johnny]

It's time for forced induction, my friend.

[LakeMountLude]

Yeah I too would not get a type-s engine.. i can get you one for 2950 but i would just buy a reg jdm h22a (which is the designation for the regular and type s jdm vtec engine) for 2050.. you should just spend that 950 and get a nice set of cams and stuff...

[drift]

the H22A from Japan features 11:1 compression. on American pump gas, you'll constantly set off the knock sensor due to minor detonation due to poor fuel quality/low octane and thus reduce its performance.

power output with ignition retarded and a rich mix signaled by the ECU from a knock sensor would reduce power to about American spec... but you'll foul up the motor very quickly.

[VTEC_boi]

ATTS? I wasn't aware the the Type-S had ATTS.

SH has ATTS, but I don't think the Type-S did.

Also, the H22 is the Prelude motor but minor ECU, intake manifold, cams, and compression changes alter the Type-S motro to a higher output that the Bases and SHs.

[VTEC_boi]

Also, Drift - what is the exact compression ratio of the Type-S H22A?

And, y would this cause detonation? The new Celica GTS has a 11.5:1 compression ratio and it seems to run well.

and, many have swapped JDM B18c-SpecRs into their Hondas (11.1:1) and they run well

Also, the honda S2000's F20C has an 11.1:1 compression ratio..

Now, the Celica and S2000 both have 11:1 compression ratios - and they're safe.

So, jus' wondering what the JDM Type-S compression ratio is.

[drift]

Originally posted by VTEC_boi
Also, Drift - what is the exact compression ratio of the Type-S H22A?

And, y would this cause detonation? The new Celica GTS has a 11.5:1 compression ratio and it seems to run well.

and, many have swapped JDM B18c-SpecRs into their Hondas (11.1:1) and they run well

Also, the honda S2000's F20C has an 11.1:1 compression ratio..

Now, the Celica and S2000 both have 11:1 compression ratios - and they're safe.

So, jus' wondering what the JDM Type-S compression ratio is.

the celica and S2000 both have high compression ratios, but their DYNAMIC compression is lower than their japanese counterparts to deal with fuel here.

the Type-S, considering their dynamic compression, would not fare well here, nor any other true JDM high compression motor.

lastly, Japan doesnt have a Type SH like we do... their top of the line is the Type-S, basically the same as the SH, but with a hand massaged motor.

[VTEC_boi]

O! I see...

Can you get to me on AIM and explain the difference betweeen 'dynamic' and 'static' compression?

thanks

[drift]

Originally posted by VTEC_boi
O! I see...

Can you get to me on AIM and explain the difference betweeen 'dynamic' and 'static' compression?

thanks

dynamic compression is based on valve timing. static compression is the actual compression ratio each cylinder as measured.

[F20C]

Money better spend on JRSC.

[Phily]

i found a pretty good set of Type S cams for my car

do you guys think its worth it to put it in my car?
I mean how much of a gain will i get with just a set of cams

[drift]

Originally posted by Phily
i found a pretty good set of Type S cams for my car

do you guys think its worth it to put it in my car?
I mean how much of a gain will i get with just a set of cams

dyno number i have seen with Type-S cams do not justify the price. I have seen maximum gains of 10HP through the powerband, 8HP peak. these are with adjustable gears, setup for maximum overall gains, and maximum peak gains. so therefore you cannot get 10hp and 8hp peak on the same settings.

if you get the cams, get the whole type-s valvetrain, including springs, retainers, valves, valve locks, and rockers... the high ramp speeds of the Type-S cams will beat the hell out of your stock valvetrain, whereas the Type-S valvetrain is designed for those cams.

your best bang for buck would be Crower... they make more power and dont destroy the stock valvetrain, all for a reasonable price.

[Phily]

"if you get the cams, get the whole type-s valvetrain, including springs, retainers, valves, valve locks, and rockers"

so with all this
how much do you think it'll cost?