me vs ms6...

[209 SRT]

Well finally got a race in...wasnt much but thought I would post anyways...me and my buddy with a 480hp hatch were headed to another friends house....driving regular through traffic we see a local rsx type s go by us...my friend says to me thats that rsx thats been beating people at the street races lately...I say oh yeah lets find out how fast he really is...so I catch up to him and when I try to look over he gives me no kind of eye contact....I know he sees me...so I try to pace him...he drops back...so I drop back then he drops back even more...so by this time im like fuck it...I speed up to about speed limit until I hear a vrooom pssss....Im like oh shit that rsx is boosted...but when I look in to my passenger side mirror I see a white ms6....he comes up fast...looks over with a fat ass grin and starts to pace me...my friend says this is going to be fun...I open my cut out and hold my revs....second gear at 3grand he punches it I do the same and instantly pull a car....shift in to third then I have a car and a half...after hitting traffic I slow down....then he comes up...he looks over at me and smiles while shaking his head...I give him a thumbs up and take off....all and all those cars are pretty quick...I have my respect for them....

[Gotian]

the speed 6 is actually pretty slow...

[-The Stig-]

http://www.mazdaforum.com/timeslips/...p?TimeSlipID=9
Not sure what they did to do that, but I bet it was some high RPM clutch drop.


2004 Mazda RX-8 (MT Mar '04)
0-60: 5.8
1/4: 14.49 (6 speed)

2006 Mazda MAZDASPEED 6 (MT Feb '06)
0-60: 5.8
1/4: 14.6


Anyways, stock for stock the MS6 and the Rx8 seem pretty close. Although, after reading this article, I wonder...

"Track testing yielded a best 0-to-60-mph time of 6.6 seconds and a quarter-mile run of 15.1 seconds. Without much off-the-line torque, the RX isn't much of a stoplight king, but once underway it makes up ground quickly. Its quarter-mile speed of just over 92 mph puts the Mazda about 5 miles per hour behind the Nissan. The numbers don't lie, if you're looking to dust off local high schoolers, the RX-8 isn't the car to do it with."

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by -The Stig-

http://www.mazdaforum.com/timeslips/...p?TimeSlipID=9
Not sure what they did to do that, but I bet it was some high RPM clutch drop.


2004 Mazda RX-8 (MT Mar '04)
0-60: 5.8
1/4: 14.49 (6 speed)

2006 Mazda MAZDASPEED 6 (MT Feb '06)
0-60: 5.8
1/4: 14.6


Anyways, stock for stock the MS6 and the Rx8 seem pretty close. Although, after reading this article, I wonder...

I drove the MS6 the same day I bought the RX-8 and the RX-8 is actually relatively faster and holds power better, it is alot more agile and picks up alot of speed on the highway compared to the speed 6, Did you read my review on the speed 6? I'm obviously a mazda guy, but the speed 6 just felt way too heavy and uncomfortable to drive, and I was testing out the luxurious model.

I read that review on edmunds before I bought the car, I like them cause they give very detailed information without being biased. You'd also be interested to note that the fastest 1/4 stock time was 14.58 @ 93MPH and the driver said there was still alot more in the car, but being new he didnt want to damage it. http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.ph...ght=drag+times it was also his first time out, and that was before the new tune on the ecu for the recalls. The new tune (from what people have been saying since everyone pretty much took their cars in, made their cars feel alot faster. So i have no doubt that in capable hands the 8 could reach the lower spectrum of the 14's, but doesnt matter to me.

Also that Time slip was all over the place cause the MS6 guys were bragging about it, though no one else managed to match it, the owner put very grippy street tires (Don't know if you count that as a mod, cause i would since it's not the stock tires) and he did a 5k clutch drop, which is something not many people would do, especially with a redline of 5500. Bottem line is that in most cases, unless somone is very willing to kil their clutch for a street race of drag race where you don't win anything, the RX would catch the MS6 by 60, assuming the MS6 got a good launch.

the MS6 was my 2nd choice after the 8 cause they were the same price, both 28K and I like to have people in my car with me, but when I drove it I was like, "forget it. My jetta is more fun to drive than this cow."

[209 SRT]

so the ms6 is awd....just from my experience I have raced both ms6 and rx8....it wasnt even close with any of them but I would have to say the ms6 held the best....(note) the rx8 was from the dig....

[Gotian]

[quote=209 SRT]so the ms6 is awd....just from my experience I have raced both ms6 and rx8....it wasnt even close with any of them but I would have to say the ms6 held the best....(note) the rx8 was from the dig....[/QUOTE]


And that is why, from a roll the 8 will hang much better to the srt than a speed 6 will, especially if the owner of the 8 kept the revs above 4.5k when you guys started the race. To launch the 8 owner would have to launch at 6 or 7k to get a good launch, good thing we have very strong trannies. it is like a 1/2-1 car difference from a dig between the 8 and speed6 but from a roll that difference gets bigger.

[RiCR-wana-b]

what the crap ernie... where was i when all the fun was happening... well this week if it stops freakin raining we'll go find some one to run... good race though, and when'd you get a cut out?

[RiCR-wana-b]

what the crap ernie... where was i when all the fun was happening... well this week if it stops freakin raining we'll go find some one to run... good race though, and when'd you get a cut out?

[209 SRT]

[quote=Gotian]

Originally Posted by 209 SRT

so the ms6 is awd....just from my experience I have raced both ms6 and rx8....it wasnt even close with any of them but I would have to say the ms6 held the best....(note) the rx8 was from the dig....[/QUOTE]


And that is why, from a roll the 8 will hang much better to the srt than a speed 6 will, especially if the owner of the 8 kept the revs above 4.5k when you guys started the race. To launch the 8 owner would have to launch at 6 or 7k to get a good launch, good thing we have very strong trannies. it is like a 1/2-1 car difference from a dig between the 8 and speed6 but from a roll that difference gets bigger.

well actually I got lauched on...but after that the rest was history...I mean they are both great cars IMO but obviously built for different reasons other than drag.....

[209 SRT]

Originally Posted by RiCR-wana-b

what the crap ernie... where was i when all the fun was happening... well this week if it stops freakin raining we'll go find some one to run... good race though, and when'd you get a cut out?

1. you posted twice
2. I called you but you didnt pick up
3. I have had my cut-out since kingdon
4. my be this week but not making any promises
5. you need a clutch

[Gotian]

[quote=209 SRT]

Originally Posted by Gotian

well actually I got lauched on...but after that the rest was history...I mean they are both great cars IMO but obviously built for different reasons other than drag.....

yeah, the speed 6 is built for comfort, which the 8 has more of, while the 8 is more of a track car.

[209 SRT]

yessssirrrrr apples and oranges....

[-The Stig-]

lol.

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by 209 SRT

yessssirrrrr apples and oranges....

I like apples and oranges!

I wanna be the orange cause oranges roll and my car likes to go from a roll!

[2000LS1Z28]

Blah, RX-8's are slow. Sorry Gotian, but it's the sad truth. Think Matt posted the slowest time for the Mazdaspeed 6 so you wouldn't feel soo bad. Here are some times for the mazdaspeed 6 from Car And Driver:
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...daspeed-6.html

Here are the times for the RX-8:
http://www.caranddriver.com/longroad...x-8-page4.html

6 tenths of a second is huge. Heck, that's also with a worn in RX8. Wonder what the 6 would run if it had some break in miles.

Good kill on the MS6 209.