Take this, Mr. ZO6!

[subieskier]

I love my Subie, but at heart I'm a Mopar man:

http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/detroit...ack-224709.php

[BlackGT2000]

Thats a lot of power.

[Mr. Luos]

It needs that kinda power to keep up.
And with all the rumors of the new S/C'd Corvette....


Impressive power out of it though.

[DeViL]

There's no point to this shit anymore. What street tire do you know of can handle that much power? Focus more on the handling of the car, 500 hp was plenty.

[209 SRT]

so it begins.....the horse power wars....hahahahahaahahaha..

[G-man422]

I read about that earlier. sound pretty sweeeet.

[Steiner]

Originally Posted by DeViL

There's no point to this shit anymore. What street tire do you know of can handle that much power? Focus more on the handling of the car, 500 hp was plenty.

+1

American performance needs a better balance of power and agility.

[Right_LiRrr]

Originally Posted by Steiner

+1

+1

[bad360rt]

Love the new Viper! Power is sick, love the hood, don't care for the "H" wheels. I've read that there's a lot more on tap with those heads too, so they can easily bump it up to take down the supercharged vette (if it comes out). Apparently one of the SRT engineers said that they will never be outdone by a vette again, I hope it's true

As for those saying American cars have too much power and not enough handling, have you looked at any of the track times for the Viper, Z06, S7 or GT?

[Steiner]

Originally Posted by bad360rt

As for those saying American cars have too much power and not enough handling, have you looked at any of the track times for the Viper, Z06, S7 or GT?

Yes. All of them. The GT and S7 are a different breed of car that 99.9999% of even wealthy people could never afford. However the Vette and Viper are more within reach. It would have been nice to see the new Viper handle a little better off the showroon floor. The z06, for less money, is already there for the first time in a long time IMHO. Check out this link if you have a few minutes...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...62715321332704

[-The Stig-]

Looks good... but wrong section. Moved to Non-Spec.

[bad360rt]

Originally Posted by Steiner

Yes. All of them. The GT and S7 are a different breed of car that 99.9999% of even wealthy people could never afford. However the Vette and Viper are more within reach. It would have been nice to see the new Viper handle a little better off the showroon floor. The z06, for less money, is already there for the first time in a long time IMHO. Check out this link if you have a few minutes...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...62715321332704

We don't know how the new Viper will handle, but I imagine it will do a bit better than the current one with the upgraded diff and better tires, and who knows what tweaks were made to the suspension.

I like Top Gear, but I hate the way he thinks anything American is trash. He says the Z06 won't do at all because it's not as quiet on the road as a Ferarri 599. But then it's ok to compare the Lotus and Mustang on the track, without saying anything about the Lotus' street manners. Oh, and then he takes an Escalade offroading?!?! Give me a freakin' break. And then the idiot compares a Ram QC to an Ariel Atom?!?! Do we have to kick their asses again?

[Steiner]

Originally Posted by bad360rt

We don't know how the new Viper will handle, but I imagine it will do a bit better than the current one with the upgraded diff and better tires, and who knows what tweaks were made to the suspension.

I like Top Gear, but I hate the way he thinks anything American is trash. He says the Z06 won't do at all because it's not as quiet on the road as a Ferarri 599. But then it's ok to compare the Lotus and Mustang on the track, without saying anything about the Lotus' street manners. Oh, and then he takes an Escalade offroading?!?! Give me a freakin' break. And then the idiot compares a Ram QC to an Ariel Atom?!?! Do we have to kick their asses again?

Yeah Clarkson's a boob. If that movie was intended for an American audience we wouldn't have to watch it on the internet. His unabated anti Americanism is somewhat of a posh position to take, especially nowadays, amongst the European socialite class. It would be fun to see the look on his face if he found out his "mum" was nailed by an American sailor during WW2. It was pretty common.

[-The Stig-]

I love Clarkson's way of being a dick, but when he raced the Horse with the Mustang. He said it had a 4.6L V8 with 300hp.

Not that particular Mustang, you can clearly see it was a V6 model with 250hp, automatic... and convertible. The slowest combination you can have... and they didn't race the horse and the car at the same time. I bet the Car is still faster, seeing as it had the shorter distance (racing the inside line).

I found that to be a bunch of bullshit, plus his info on the Shelby GT500 is wrong, it's 500hp not 475hp and it has a 5.4L not the 4.6L like the Rousch. It just pisses me off that somebody who produces a show of that high quality, production wise... can get so much goddamn shit wrong.

Ugh... well he likes to bash American things, there's no doubt in that. I still enjoy Top Gear though, although lately I've become more of a 5th Gear fan myself... if only for Tiff Needells review on the Z06, he's not as biased towards The Holy Britain as Jeremy Clarkson... Plus he's one hell of a driver.

5th Gear review:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=G9bByWD4O...elated&search=

[VR43000GT]

I also notice how they praise most every English car saying that it has "soul". When they forget to mention the soul in the car is dead 90% of the time because they are so damn unrealiable, Jags especially. And though if you have the money to buy the car you may have the money to fix it but how fun is a street car if you can only drive it a block before you have to call a mechanic for a quick fix agian?