Do older camaros come in manual ?

[blackbob]

Hey peeps,

I got a quick question to ask you guys about the 80's model camaro. Do any of you know if there was an camaro taht came in Manual ? I'm pretty sure there's a V-6 that does because there was Trans ams of the same ara with v-6 5spd.'s too. I'm asking cause I wanna turbo a camaro and do some totally new body style stuff to it. I'm trying to get all my facts together so I can start my work on paper before I do anything physical. Bu if any of you guys could help that would be great.

[NiGhtRider_RS]

Yea, the 1980 camaro came in a 3 or 4 speed manual transmission. Here's some other specs, hope they help:

1980 Camaro Production: 51,104 V6, 100,901 V8, 152,005 total.
Dealer Introduction: 10/11/79

Vehicle Identification Example: 1P87LAN547484


First digit is GM Division: 1 = Chevrolet

Second digit is model: P = Sport, Rally Sport, Z28, S = Berlinetta

Digits 3 & 4 are body type: 87 = 2dr. coupe

Fifth digit is engine code: A = 231ci V6, H = 305ci V8, J = 267ci V8, K = 229ci V6, L = 350ci V8.

Sixth digit is model year: A = 1980

Seventh digit is N for Norwood assembly, L for Van Nuys.

Last six digits increased one with each car built at each plant.


Review: Car & Driver, 4/80 - "Chevrolet Camaro Z28 A medieval warrior on the path to a rocking chair"

Dimensions
Length: 197.6" Height: 49.2" Width: 74.5" Wheelbase: 108.0"
Curb Weight (pounds): Base Coupe - 3328 | Berlinetta - 3363 | Z28 - 3600


1980 Spotters Guide & New Features

EPA fuel economy was a big theme in 1980. In an effort to save weight the venerable but porky 250 was axed in favor of the V6. 49 states got the Chevy (odd-fire) 229 CID, while Californians got the Buick (even-fire) 231 CID. Both were 90 degree V6s, the chevy was a "3/4 V8".
Good news on the Z28 front. Styling changes made the car seriously sinister. It had some extra poke under the hood too. Click here to read all about it.

The Berlinetta got spiffy wire wheel covers which replaced the polycast wheels and the paint scheme for the RS model was modified.

Ahoy - there was a recession looming on the horizon and sales plummetted to 1/2 of the previous years record setting level. Something needed to be done, and among the highlights? were....

267 CID V8 debute (not available in CA thank god)
250 CID L6 eliminated, replaced with V6
new tight mesh grille
To save gas - Speedo reads to 85MPH Max, down from 130.
Vinal roof cover eliminated.
GO: Back to 1979 | Continue to 1981
Click here to browse the 1980 Dealer Sales Brochure
Click here for "MadMike's Second Generation Camaro Spotters Guide & Summary of Yearly Changes"





1980 Engine & Drivetrain Info

CID Config Bore & Stroke BHP @ RPM Torque @ rpm Comp Carb.
LC-3 229 V-6 3.74 x 3.48 115 @ 4000 175 @ 2000 8.6:1 2V
LD-5* 231 V-6 3.80 x 3.40 110 @ 3800 190 @ 1600 8.0:1 2V
L-39 267 V-8 3.50 x 3.48 120 @ 3600 215 @ 2000 8.3:1 2V
LG4 305 V-8 3.74 x 3.48 155 @ 4000 240 @ 1600 8.6:1 4V
LG-4* 305 V-8 3.74 x 3.48 155 @ 4000 230 @ 2400 8.6:1 4V
LG4/Z28 305 V-8 3.74 x 3.48 165 @ 4000 245 @ 2400 8.6:1 4V
LM1/Z28 350 V-8 4.00 x 3.48 190 @ 4200 280 @ 2400 8.2:1 4V

* California only
Engine Suffix Codes
C8X: 267ci V8, at CEU: 350ci V8, mt CRA: 229ci V6, mt
CEJ: 305ci V8, at CHA: 350ci V8, at CRC: 229ci V6, at
CEL: 305ci V8, at, ce CML: 305ci V8, at, uu D9B: 305ci V8, uu
CEM: 305ci V8, at, ce CPD: 267ci V8, at ON: 231ci V6, at
CET: 305ci V8, mt

Abbreviations: at = automatic transmission, ce = california emission controls, ci = cubic inch, mt = manual transmission, uu = uncertain usage.

Engine Code Example: V0427CHA - (350ci - Assembled in Flint assembly plant on April 27)
Click here for further engine decoding information

1980 Camaro Power Teams
LC-3 LG-4 LM-1
229 305 350
3-and 4-speed 1 3.50:1 2.85:1 3.42:1
manual 2 1.89:1 2.02:1 2.28:1
transmission 3 1.00:1 1.35:1 1.45:1
ratios 4 -- 1.00:1 1.00:1
R 3.62:1 2.85:1 3.51:1

Clutch diam., in. 10.34 10.34 10.34

Axle ratios S 2.73:1 3.08:1 3.08:1

LC-3 LD-5 L-39 LG4 LM-1
229 231 267 305 350
TH200 TH350 TH350 TH350 TH350
Turbo Hydramatic 1 2.74:1 2.52:1 2.52:1 2.52:1 2.52:1
transmission 2 1.57:1 1.52:1 1.52:1 1.52:1 1.52:1
ratios 3 1.00:1 1.00:1 1 00:1 1.00:1 1.00:1
R 2.07:1 1.93:1 1.93:1 1.93:1 1.93:1

Axle ratios S 2.73:1 2.73:1 2.56:1 2.56:1 3.42:1
P -- -- -- 3.08:1* --

S = Standard ratio, P = Performance (G92).
* = 3.42 for California emissions 305 automatic w/Z28



Transmission Codes

Type Plant Code
3-Speed Muncie S
4-Speed (Saginaw) Muncie R
Source Code
Parma THM 350 B
Toledo THM 350 Y
GM of Canada THM 350 J
Buick Motor Division K


Transmission Code Example: Y0D27D - (1980 TH350, 3 speed A/T, assembled Day shift, April 27)
Click here for further transmission decoding information

Rear Axle Codes
PA 2.73:1 PT 2.56:1 Locking
PC 3.08:1 PU 2.73:1 Locking
PE 3.42:1 PW 3.08:1 Locking
PH 2.56:1 PY 3.42:1 Locking


Rearend Code Example: PYG100DE - (Chevy sourced 3.42 posi, Assembled on day shift of 100th day of the year w/eaton posi)
Click here for further axle decoding information
Click Here for general axle info and tooth combinations



1980 Factory Options

RPO Description Qty Retail *
1FQ87 Camaro Sport Coupe 68,174 $5,498.60
1FQ87 Camaro Rally Sport Coupe 12,015 5,915.60
1FS87 Camaro Berlinetta Coupe 26,679 6,261.60
1FQ87 Camaro Z28 Sport Coupe 45,137 7,121.32
AK1 BELT - Seats & front shoulder harness - deluxe
AN6 Adjustable Seat Back, driver side 14,605 25.00
AU3 Power Door Locks 27,484 93.00
AV9 SEAT Requirements - Export
A01 Soft Ray Tinted Glass, all windows 130,570 68.00
A02 GLASS, tinted windshield
A26 GLASS - United Kingdom Glazing (Export)
A31 Power Windows 44,716 143.00
A51 Bucket Seat std
BS1 Body Insulation
B18 Ornamentation - Interior - Deluxe
B37 Floor Mats, color-keyed front and rear 81,824 25.00
B77 Ornamentation - Reveal Molding
B80 Molding - Roof Drip 73,349 26.00
B81 Ornamentation - Body Side (delete)
B83 RCKR SPR MLDG
B84 Molding - Body Side 56,742 46.00
B85 Molding - Belt Reveal
B89 Ornamentation - Reveal Molding (Z28)
B93 Molding - Door Edge 42,194 14.00
B94 Exterior Ornament (z28)
B97 rr whl spoiler (z28)
CB7 Cover - Roof - Soft Trim - Front
CC1 Roof Panels, removable glass 24,816 695.00
CD4 Windshield Wipers, intermittent 34,285 41.00
C49 Defogger, rear window 78,113 107.00
C60 Air Conditioning 107,175 566.00
D1A - D1D - Gear - Speedometer, Driven
E1C Adapter - Speedometer Gear
E5Z Less Adapter - Speedometer Gear
E6E - E6F - Sleeve - Speedometer Gear
E9Z Less Key - Speedometer Gear
D35 Mirrors, sport right and left remote exterior 63,572 46.00
D60 Non-Recommended Color Combination
D80 Spoiler, rear 29,820 62.00
D88 Z28 Stripes
D92 Tape - Door Handle Decor
D98 Stripe - Rally
F41 Suspension, Special Performance Front & Rear 12,721 44.00
6AF - 6MF - Spring - Front LH
7AF - 7MF - Spring - Front RH
GM8 Axle - Rear (2.56 Ratio)
GT4 Axle - Rear (3.73 Ratio)
GU2 Axle - Rear (2.73 Ratio)
GU4 Axle - Rear (3.08 Ratio)
GU6 Axle - Rear (3.42 Ratio)
G80 Rear Axle, limited slip 17,655 68.00
G92 Rear Axle, performance ratio 2,228 19.00
8LB - 8YP - Spring - Rear LH
9LB - 9YP - Spring - Rear RH
JL6 Brakes - Manual
J50 Power Brakes (included with Z28) 94,250 81.00
K05 Heater - Engine Block
K19 Reactor System - Air Injection
K30 Speed Control, cruise master 38,089 112.00
K77 55 Amp Alternator
LC3 Engine, "229" CID, 3.8L, 2BBL, V6
LD5 Engine, "231" CID, 3.8L, 2BBL, V6
LG4 Engine, 305ci, 155hp V8 47,580 295.00
LM1 Engine, 350ci, 190hp V8 (required Z28) 41,825 nc
LU8 Engine, "301" CID, 4.9L - turbo charged (option dropped)
L39 Engine, 267ci, 120hp, 4.4L, V8 (NA w/ YF5 cal emissions) 11,400
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That should be sufficient. Good luck. -kyle

[-Josh-]

You bet your ass the camaro came in manual trans., although the 80's isn't my favorite decade for the Camaro.:flash:

[blackbob]

eventhough I was only born in the 80's after seeing enough on the history channel yeah I see what you are saying. But I might lean twards a stang cause they are a hell of alot lighter.

[blackbob]

I just got a 84 carborated camaro COUGHv6COUGH !

[-Josh-]

I took the 79' Camaro out for a little spin around Champaign today. Nothing like kicking back and relaxing with your car on the open road

[blackbob]

Well I don't plan on doing any MAJOR driving till I really get mine looking and running good.

[-Josh-]

Hey, i'll try and post a pic of the camaro on here sometime. if i can get it on a disk.

[blackbob]

That be kool.

Hey can you help me with this ?Ok so it hit me finnally today my 84 v6 camaro needs work not to bad on the engine stuff. But the engine needs work especially before it's back to it's prime. So I ran some numbers and finnally realize for all of what I was planning to do with the carbed v6 I coulda completed a 350 in the same amout of time for a fraction of the cost. At the smae time get a even larger hp gain. So here's my question cna you guys tell me speciaficlly what I need to buy to do the swap and some ruff numbers as to what the total swap will cost being it that I'm doing alot if not all of teh work myself. Well not absalutely by my-self my friends dad aka 60something year old hotrod god is gonna help me a little along the way. But before I even turn a wrench I need to write out what it is I'm doing what order to do it in and how much it will cost. Can you guys help me out in anyway ?

~Blackbob~

[-Josh-]

Well at least your doing it yourself, if you had some dealership do it they charge like $75 an hour (the good places anyway) so that will help you save a little funds. Your obviously going to need something to pull one engine out and drop the other in, the best thing to do is to get one that can hold at least 3000 lbs. As to what your going to need i really don't know (an ass load of tools, and patience) I'm sure there are people on here can help you more though so i'll shut up.

[blackbob]

Well yeah but what little you said is a start.

[MadZ]

For one thing, if you are gonna get a 350, try to find a donor car that is a 3rd gen camaro so you will have all of the proper brackets for air conditioning, alternator, etc., you will need motor mounts for a 350, gonna need a whole new exhaust, (exhaust off of the V6 may not fit right). Probably a new driveshaft for the proper length. Basically, you might just want to wait until a 3rd gen that already has a 350 comes around, it will save you $$$ and an ass-load of work. If not, just try to find a good 3rd gen donor car at a junkyard or something so you will have all the parts you need.