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FDA Smaller portions

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,197885,00.html

I can't believe this crap.... The rest of us shouldn't suffer while the fat people can't stop themselves from eating that much.
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Re: FDA Smaller portions

Another article pointing out the irresponsibility of some people. The government is considering this since people can't control their own eating habits.

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Today, 64 percent of Americans are overweight, including the 30 percent who are obese, according to the report. It pegs the annual medical cost of the problem at nearly $93 billion.
Definitely a problem. But don't charge me more for food because someone else is overeating.
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Re: FDA Smaller portions

it doesn't bother me that they are wanting places to down size the servings. i always just eat half the meal or whatever and save the rest for lunch the next day at work. that i way i only pay for one meal but get two out of it. i will agree though that serving sizes at restaraunts are getting out of control.


one little question about the stats above and you may not have the answer. does the 30% of obese people come out of the 64% of overweight people? or is the 30 from the entire population?? i realize that being obese is also overweight but i was just curious, and am in a little bit of an analytical mood.
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it doesn't bother me that they are wanting places to down size the servings. i always just eat half the meal or whatever and save the rest for lunch the next day at work. that i way i only pay for one meal but get two out of it. i will agree though that serving sizes at restaraunts are getting out of control.

one little question about the stats above and you may not have the answer. does the 30% of obese people come out of the 64% of overweight people? or is the 30 from the entire population?? i realize that being obese is also overweight but i was just curious, and am in a little bit of an analytical mood.
So it may cost you more to eat - because if they downsize the servings, you'll be paying the same price for your lunch but will only be getting one meal out of it.

The 30% comes out of the 64%.... 64% of Americans are overweight, and almost half of those are obese.

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A person has traditionally been considered to be obese if they are more than 20 percent over their ideal weight. That ideal weight must take into account the person's height, age, sex, and build.

Obesity has been more precisely defined by the National Institutes of Health (the NIH) as a BMI of 30 and above. (A BMI of 30 is about 30 pounds overweight.) The BMI (body mass index), a key index for relating body weight to height, is a person's weight in kilograms (kg) divided by their height in meters (m)squared. Since the BMI describes the body weight relative to height, it correlates strongly (in adults) with the total body fat content. Some very muscular people may have a high BMI without undue health risks.

While the BMI is accurate for many, it isn't for everyone as noted above. "Ideal" weight put out on tables isn't accurate for some either. Bodyfat percentage is the best way to go about measuring the degree of obesity.

It's not necessarily the amount that is eaten, but rather the sedentary lifestyle that makes people fat:

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Your shape is affected by body fat percentage because muscle tissue is more compact than fat - a balloon containing 1lb of muscle tissue would be smaller than a balloon containing 1lb of fat!

So a woman, 5' 6" tall weighing 140lbs (10 stone) who does regular muscle enhancing exercise, will have a lower body fat percentage, and look slimmer, than a woman of the same height and weight who doesn't exercise and therefore has a higher ratio of body fat.
So the idea of reducing portions is flawed; the strategy should be to instead change the sedentary lifestyle to a more active one.
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Re: FDA Smaller portions

very nice post above. people just need to get off their booties. i park far away in the parking lots, not only cause it makes me walk farther, but also so no one dings my car. i also take the stairs to work, climb 6 stories. i try and incorporate it all into my daily routine.
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Re: FDA Smaller portions

restaurants shouldn't be dictated to on what size portions they have. it's part of their style and have you ever chose one restaurant over another cuz that meal you wanted a smaller portion, or maybe you were starving and wanted something bigger?

the government should instead be educating the people on how to make the right decisions about food and diet for themselves, not just doing it for them.
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restaurants shouldn't be dictated to on what size portions they have. it's part of their style and have you ever chose one restaurant over another cuz that meal you wanted a smaller portion, or maybe you were starving and wanted something bigger?

the government should instead be educating the people on how to make the right decisions about food and diet for themselves, not just doing it for them.

But that's the problem, (most) people don't get off their asses and do stuff to get exercise. The idea of exercising has been around since... dirt.

We were taught how to exercise in grade school, middle school, highschool and even college.

If they can't figure it out and put two and two together... then down sizing food portions seems logical.

I guess it doesn't bother me much, I'm not a huge eater to begin with.
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Re: FDA Smaller portions

true, a lot of people cant control how much they eat. but what about the 24 million people in the US alone that suffer from an eating disorder? 1 in 5 women have an eating disorder too. when the government mandates or suggests that restaurants decrease portions because people are too fat, what message does that send to people.

with you all being guys, i doubt most of you know just how hard it is to struggle with something like anorexia. for me it was genetic, my mom secretly takes diet pills. she thinks no one knows, but i found them on accident one day cleaning her bathroom. she excercises like crazy. i've been dealing with it for a few years myself, and it tears you apart... like i said, the government should be educating people how to eat right for themselves, not using a single mold for everyone.
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We should tell these people about a diet that works VERY well.

It's called the "get off your ass and do something" diet.

Why should the rest of us, who get out and do stuff or have self control, suffer because you use a shovel and pitch fork to eat like a pig? I wish the lard ass would shut up.

Blaming the restaurants for making you fat is like blaming a chick for having a freaky pussy which causes you to prematurly ejaculate.
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Re: FDA Smaller portions

Im sure most of yall "Skinny" people dont do shit in terms of excersize
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Im sure most of yall "Skinny" people dont do shit in terms of excersize
umm...why do u think we're thin? magic potions? no we actually go out and excercise. i seriously haven't watched tv in months and i couldn't care less, i doubt i'm missing anything anyways. i go play tennis, i go for walks, i go skiing *snow and water* i run up and down the stairs instead of walk. i also watch what i eat. if ur smart about it, the pounds will melt off.

when i go to a restaurant, i don't try and finish it all. just take it home for another meal. also, don't eat until you're full or feel like you're "about to burst". this stretches out your stomach over time, increasing how much you can eat before feeling full, which ultimately increases your calorie intake. not saying do what i did and starve urself so long ur stomach shrinks to the point where u can only eat a lot of small snacks thruout the day instead of meals, but like with everything, choose moderation.
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Im sure most of yall "Skinny" people dont do shit in terms of excersize
I cycled 40 miles this week and worked at least 12 hours every day....what did you overweight folk do?
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Re: FDA Smaller portions

Good for you, i use to run 1.5 miles a day, and lift weights, and work regularly, didn't loose any weight
But then again are you going to tell me that every singler skinny person diets right, and exercises regularly? bull shit, i know at least 10 right now that eat what ever the fuck they want and dont gain a ounce
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i know at least 10 right now that eat what ever the fuck they want and dont gain a ounce
Hate them now, but metabolisms slow down and they will put weight on.
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You're right...I don't excercise at all and I just cracked 150 this week (heaviest I've been...ever). I don't know what it is, but I just can't put on weight for the life of me right now (for the record I'm 19, 5-8). I'm sure it'll change, but my dad is the same way. He's 6-2 and he's just recently cracked 200 and he's 47. Seems like something that runs in the family...it's weird.
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