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05-06-2006, 11:30 PM
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motor out, pics
ok well my motor is out, cylinder 7 had problems, the piston was as black as can be and all the others were decently clean, also one valve had like a chunk of something on it, still there, wont pull off, it looks like jb weld smashed all on it. other then that its looking good. i found i have studs for my heads, plus, and i have 4 bolt mains, and flat top pistons. some nice crane valve springs and rods. snd what im planning on is cleaning the engine bay and painting it black, getting rid of my tpi and wiring and going carbed. new oil pump, roller rockers, piston rings, all new gaskets, double roller timing set, and a stall converter. also gona get some head work done and get my block hot tanked. ill post pix as progress is made. in the meantime heres a few pix as of last thursday....
 thats me unbolting something on the left, and a few friends  its out, put it in that crate till we got the engine stand ready  theres that nasty cylinder 7 on the right, well compared to the others  the other side  the motor, the lifter valley is grinded down smooth for the oild to flow better  that parts that came off pre pull  the rockers lifters rods and bolts for the rockers and heads  heads... they are stock 350 heads from the original 350 that was in the car  gotta get rid of all that speghetti and paint it all black
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 87 firebird formula ws6 (currently has a old 78 305 with the following upgrades, including lots of miles and stock heads and internals....oops) crane cam cam specs performance valve springs and retainers, flowtech headers, 255 lph fuel pump, holley 600cfm carb, weiand single plane manifold, a healty diet. 14.90 1/4 mile....just wait for the 406 to be finished MY VIDEOS MY PICTURES -Tom 
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#2
05-06-2006, 11:56 PM
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Re: motor out, pics
Man, why are you going carbed? TPI system is superior in gas mileage and power.. only thing is that it doesnt have the spaghetti, but i'd trade that for going quicker and saving a couple of bucks especially when gas prices are this high..
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#4
05-07-2006, 12:38 AM
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Re: motor out, pics
umm well my injectors are shit and i dont have a extra 200 to spend on them, i could sell this all for 200 maybe and buy a manifold and i have a holly 650 already. plus theres no one around here to tune my ecu that desperatly needs a tune for my motor and that cost too much anyways, (i would tune myself but cant afford that either and i dont want a 2 week headache). and i think i will get more power out of a carb anyways. and yeah, its woth the gas money
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87 firebird formula ws6 (currently has a old 78 305 with the following upgrades, including lots of miles and stock heads and internals....oops) crane cam cam specs performance valve springs and retainers, flowtech headers, 255 lph fuel pump, holley 600cfm carb, weiand single plane manifold, a healty diet. 14.90 1/4 mile....just wait for the 406 to be finished MY VIDEOS MY PICTURES -Tom
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#5
05-07-2006, 02:13 AM
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Re: motor out, pics
cool
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Formerly Blownalcoholboy 1986 Z28, 400ci SBC, Twin borg warner billet S467 turbos, Reid case powerglide, Moser 9". Holley EFI, Boost Leash. 950RWHP on pump gas, 1200rwhp on race gas (22 psi) Best ET 1/4: 8.35 @ 170mph (275 drag radial) Best ET 1/8: 5.44 @ 132mph (275 drag radial) Best 60': 1.31 on the back tires (275 drag radial) AF User Rules/Guidelines http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...uidelines.html
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#6
05-07-2006, 02:16 AM
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Re: motor out, pics
Nice work, although I have to agree that TPI owns carb hard... no lube... etc
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97 Camaro - 2.077 60', 14.745 @ 92.20 - still down, one year later. 194k miles-160* thermo-V8 shocks/springs (V6 rear springs)-3" Magnaflow !cat (3" dynomax bullet) back-SLP CAI-stock boxed LCAs-poly tranny mount and torque arm bushing-custom HPTuners tuning-4.10s/eaton/TA girdle-3.5" alum DS-spohn LCA brackets-prostar skinnies 179.75 RWHP, 204.52 RWTQ ON ITS WAY: MORE R.I.P. Andy 87 Benz 190e - DD 01 EX250 - still gotta get my license for this thing
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#7
05-07-2006, 09:17 AM
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Re: motor out, pics
you can get injectors out of a lt1 or ls1 for cheap...50 bucks or so....usually with low miles....but do what you will.
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92 z28 camaro 5.7 TPI current - slp intake runners and base-BBK 52mm throttle body-MSD 8.5mm wires, blaster coil, and 6AL Box-edelbrock headers-160 degree stat.-hotchkis strut tower brace waiting in the garage - LQ4, milled heads 317 casting (10.5 to 1), hardened pushrods, ported LS6 oil pump, manley dual spings with titanium retainers, MTI X1 cam, hawks longtube headers 
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#8
05-07-2006, 12:35 PM
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Re: motor out, pics
you could go stealth ram. kinda like tpi but better
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#9
05-07-2006, 08:20 PM
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Re: motor out, pics
if your changing over to a carbed setup your may want to replace your cam, fuel injected cams are ground diferantly compared to a standard cam yours will work but your not gonna get the power you would like from it, you also may want to replace your lifters if not check them for wear where the tappet meets with the camshaft the tappet side of your lifter should be flat,
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#10
05-08-2006, 10:10 AM
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Re: motor out, pics
Cylinder 7 looks like it was a leaky injector or bad o-ring(s), could be weak spark too, but I'd go with the first. The "jb weld" looking stuff on the valve probably was a goof from whoever built the engine last and left the clay on the valve when checking for interference. As for not having $200 for injectors, 2 answers, both 2 words
swap meet junk yard 
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#11
05-08-2006, 10:52 AM
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Re: motor out, pics
wish I could get my car into the garage....got so much crap everywhere....
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92 z28 camaro 5.7 TPI current - slp intake runners and base-BBK 52mm throttle body-MSD 8.5mm wires, blaster coil, and 6AL Box-edelbrock headers-160 degree stat.-hotchkis strut tower brace waiting in the garage - LQ4, milled heads 317 casting (10.5 to 1), hardened pushrods, ported LS6 oil pump, manley dual spings with titanium retainers, MTI X1 cam, hawks longtube headers
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#12
05-08-2006, 01:53 PM
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Re: motor out, pics
go carb, carb is just so much cooler than FI
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Formerly Blownalcoholboy 1986 Z28, 400ci SBC, Twin borg warner billet S467 turbos, Reid case powerglide, Moser 9". Holley EFI, Boost Leash. 950RWHP on pump gas, 1200rwhp on race gas (22 psi) Best ET 1/4: 8.35 @ 170mph (275 drag radial) Best ET 1/8: 5.44 @ 132mph (275 drag radial) Best 60': 1.31 on the back tires (275 drag radial) AF User Rules/Guidelines http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...uidelines.html
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#13
05-08-2006, 05:25 PM
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Re: motor out, pics
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#14
05-08-2006, 06:35 PM
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Re: motor out, pics
TPI is sooooo much better than carb. I know alot of guys that wish their car had TPI on it and not a carb. Power is much better and overall driveability is also much better. I won't even factor in gas mileage and it still wins hands down. It's like points vs. electronic ignition, it just doesn't make sense why you would take the better of the 2 out and replace it with old technology. I don't want to tell you what to do but I also don't want you to regret it either.(which you will)
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#15
05-08-2006, 06:42 PM
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And it gets worse when its cold and you have to sit there.. which is recommended but if you're in a hurry.. thats another story. I dont know, but to me going carb isnt the best.. especially since TPI is what alot of people try to go for.. you're like going backwards instead of forward..
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