-
Grand Future Air Dried Fresh Beef Dog Food
Air Dried Dog Food | Fresh Beef

Carnivore Diet for Dogs

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Automotive Art > Car Modeling
Register FAQ Community
Car Modeling Share your passion for car modeling here! Includes sub-forum for "in progress" and "completed" vehicles.
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 09-01-2005, 09:15 PM
malsheem's Avatar
malsheem malsheem is offline
20 inches and growing ...
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 760
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Impressions - Micro-Mark Pro-Etch Photoetching Kit

After many failed attempts at home photoetching using less than elegant techniques, I finally picked up Micro-Mark's Pro-Etch Photoetching system.

http://www.ares-server.com/Ares/Ares...oduct&ID=83123

Looks very good and very complete. Lots of stuff, and decent instructions. With the summer sale, at $99 (rather than $149), it seemed like a good deal.




I'll be using the long weekend to try things out. Need to create some designs to test it out. Will post some results later.
__________________
-Joe
www.quietrage.com


CWest R34 Skyline GT-R
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-01-2005, 09:42 PM
white97ex's Avatar
white97ex white97ex is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 3,513
Thanks: 1
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Send a message via AIM to white97ex Send a message via Yahoo to white97ex
Re: Impressions - Micro-Mark Pro-Etch Photoetching Kit

awesome. seems like a good investment. can't wait to see the results
__________________
My name is Russell, feel free to use it.

I'd rather be hated for Who I Am than be loved for Who I Am Not
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-01-2005, 10:14 PM
D_LaMz's Avatar
D_LaMz D_LaMz is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,885
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to D_LaMz
Re: Impressions - Micro-Mark Pro-Etch Photoetching Kit

Cool, hope you get good results.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-02-2005, 01:04 AM
robrex's Avatar
robrex robrex is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 2,218
Thanks: 16
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Send a message via Skype™ to robrex
Re: Impressions - Micro-Mark Pro-Etch Photoetching Kit

Looks like fun!
__________________
Rob

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-02-2005, 03:57 AM
klutz_100's Avatar
klutz_100 klutz_100 is offline
AF Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,889
Thanks: 7
Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts
Send a message via Skype™ to klutz_100
Re: Impressions - Micro-Mark Pro-Etch Photoetching Kit

VERY interested in the results of this.
Good luck!
__________________
Guideline for happy modeling: Practice on scrap. Always try something new. Less is more.

"I have a plan so cunning, you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel" - Edmund Blackadder
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-02-2005, 10:24 AM
ImolaEK's Avatar
ImolaEK ImolaEK is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,466
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Send a message via AIM to ImolaEK
Re: Re: Impressions - Micro-Mark Pro-Etch Photoetching Kit

Quote:
Originally Posted by robrex
Looks like fun!
Yup Good luck with everything
__________________
-Joeham-
無限 MUGEN POWER
Email:
[email protected]

MYSPACE
www.myspace.com/joeham
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-03-2005, 02:55 AM
nosliw2004's Avatar
nosliw2004 nosliw2004 is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,408
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to nosliw2004 Send a message via Yahoo to nosliw2004
Re: Impressions - Micro-Mark Pro-Etch Photoetching Kit

can someone please tell me what photetching is? is it liek that metal transfer stuff used on tamiya cars? thanks
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-03-2005, 02:24 PM
blubaja's Avatar
blubaja blubaja is offline
AF Fanatic
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,660
Thanks: 63
Thanked 38 Times in 35 Posts
Send a message via AIM to blubaja Send a message via MSN to blubaja Send a message via Yahoo to blubaja
Re: Re: Impressions - Micro-Mark Pro-Etch Photoetching Kit

Quote:
Originally Posted by nosliw2004
can someone please tell me what photetching is? is it liek that metal transfer stuff used on tamiya cars? thanks
Yes, more or less.

Good deal you got there. How exactly does that kit work? Do you have to feed a sheet of metal through that little machine? Good luck!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-03-2005, 02:58 PM
malsheem's Avatar
malsheem malsheem is offline
20 inches and growing ...
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 760
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Metal transfers are more like stickers, not the same as photoetched parts. Photoetching is the process of creating small detail parts from sheets of metal by etching it with a corrosive liquid (etchant). An example of a P/E set ... http://www.hlj.com/product/S27FP2413

The process with this kit is ...
1. Design the artwork.
2. Print it on their clear film.
3. Laminating the photoresist to the metal to be etched (the machine you see is a laminating machine).
4. Put the laminated metal and clear film artwork between clear plexiglass.
5. Expose to sunlight (or 100-watt bulb).
6. Develop the photoresisted metal.
7. Etch the metal.

Seems complex, but I'm taking it step by step. No rushing. My test artwork is done. Since I'm working on a Fujimi Mercedes 190E 2.5 Evolution II, I made some mesh for openings up front, scripts for the rear, and some Mercedes logos for all around. I used CorelDraw 12 to create it.

__________________
-Joe
www.quietrage.com


CWest R34 Skyline GT-R
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-03-2005, 05:31 PM
ImolaEK's Avatar
ImolaEK ImolaEK is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,466
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Send a message via AIM to ImolaEK
Re: Impressions - Micro-Mark Pro-Etch Photoetching Kit

Quote:
Originally Posted by malsheem
Metal transfers are more like stickers, not the same as photoetched parts. Photoetching is the process of creating small detail parts from sheets of metal by etching it with a corrosive liquid (etchant). An example of a P/E set ... http://www.hlj.com/product/S27FP2413

The process with this kit is ...
1. Design the artwork.
2. Print it on their clear film.
3. Laminating the photoresist to the metal to be etched (the machine you see is a laminating machine).
4. Put the laminated metal and clear film artwork between clear plexiglass.
5. Expose to sunlight (or 100-watt bulb).
6. Develop the photoresisted metal.
7. Etch the metal.

Seems complex, but I'm taking it step by step. No rushing. My test artwork is done. Since I'm working on a Fujimi Mercedes 190E 2.5 Evolution II, I made some mesh for openings up front, scripts for the rear, and some Mercedes logos for all around. I used CorelDraw 12 to create it.

Looks very well drawn! Good jOB!
__________________
-Joeham-
無限 MUGEN POWER
Email:
[email protected]

MYSPACE
www.myspace.com/joeham
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-03-2005, 06:03 PM
D_LaMz's Avatar
D_LaMz D_LaMz is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,885
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to D_LaMz
Re: Impressions - Micro-Mark Pro-Etch Photoetching Kit

Nice job on the design, but how do you know that its the right scale?
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-04-2005, 03:50 AM
hks_kansei's Avatar
hks_kansei hks_kansei is offline
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 451
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
corel has the measurements on the page, so you can just measure the model, and make to the correct size in corel.
__________________


my current project: Nissan S-13 Silvia
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-04-2005, 06:03 PM
Jaymes's Avatar
Jaymes Jaymes is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,223
Thanks: 2
Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts
Re: Impressions - Micro-Mark Pro-Etch Photoetching Kit

can't wait to see the results
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-05-2005, 05:59 AM
klutz_100's Avatar
klutz_100 klutz_100 is offline
AF Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,889
Thanks: 7
Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts
Send a message via Skype™ to klutz_100
Re: Impressions - Micro-Mark Pro-Etch Photoetching Kit

Quote:
Originally Posted by malsheem
Looks excellent artwork!

Have a guestion though on the connecting bits (sprues?). I noticed that you have put them only on one of the sheets - is that on purpose because you want them to "back-etch" and be even thinner?

I'm just thinking out loud but with your triangualr shaped connectors which, by definition, will have a very minimal contact point with the main part, hence a back-etching effect may result in your parts disconnecting in the acid bath

Please take this post in the right way. I'm not trying to be smart or anything. I've NEVER etched anything I'm just think out loud based on some research reading I've done. If I'm wrong, good! If I'm right and it saves you some bother, also good.

Please share your results though
__________________
Guideline for happy modeling: Practice on scrap. Always try something new. Less is more.

"I have a plan so cunning, you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel" - Edmund Blackadder
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-05-2005, 12:11 PM
malsheem's Avatar
malsheem malsheem is offline
20 inches and growing ...
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 760
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Re: Impressions - Micro-Mark Pro-Etch Photoetching Kit

Quote:
Originally Posted by klutz_100
Looks excellent artwork!

Have a guestion though on the connecting bits (sprues?). I noticed that you have put them only on one of the sheets - is that on purpose because you want them to "back-etch" and be even thinner?

I'm just thinking out loud but with your triangualr shaped connectors which, by definition, will have a very minimal contact point with the main part, hence a back-etching effect may result in your parts disconnecting in the acid bath

Please take this post in the right way. I'm not trying to be smart or anything. I've NEVER etched anything I'm just think out loud based on some research reading I've done. If I'm wrong, good! If I'm right and it saves you some bother, also good.

Please share your results though
Having an image on only one of the pic will cause it to etch only halfway through, which is good for cutting points and making etched nameplates.

Yes, I, too, am concerned with the thin contact points. This kit can etch as small as a 1/2 point or .007" (approx 1/16"). Nothing is smaller than a 1/2 point, but I still worry. They look very tiny to me, but that's what experimenting is all about. If they fall off, I redo it thicker. After a few times, I'll know the limitations.

I might redo them before I print tonight. Been sidetracked. Sucks getting sick over a holiday weekend.
__________________
-Joe
www.quietrage.com


CWest R34 Skyline GT-R
Reply With Quote
 
Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Automotive Art > Car Modeling


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:23 PM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts