-
Grand Future Air Dried Fresh Beef Dog Food
Air Dried Dog Food | Fresh Beef

Carnivore Diet for Dogs

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Automotive Art > Car Modeling
Register FAQ Community
Car Modeling Share your passion for car modeling here! Includes sub-forum for "in progress" and "completed" vehicles.
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 05-13-2005, 07:00 PM
racer917's Avatar
racer917 racer917 is offline
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 208
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Are clear coats waterproof?

A friend of mine is working on a plane model which he wishes to display permanently or temporarely (don't know which) underwater in an aquarium. I don't know if the whole plane or just part of it will be in the water. I didn't asked. He will coat it with clear flat to dull the paint job and protect the decals. Will the clear hold underwater and for how long? Also will the water be safe for any fish he might leave in the aquarium where the plane will be displayed. And finally which flat clear would you recommend.

Thanks in advance
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-13-2005, 07:04 PM
Vric's Avatar
Vric Vric is offline
AF Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 5,623
Thanks: 3
Thanked 17 Times in 12 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to Vric Send a message via MSN to Vric Send a message via Yahoo to Vric
Re: Are clear coats waterproof?

It will be waterproof for the decals, but it won'T stop water to enter in the model.

As for the fish, if the clear is fully cured, I don't see why it would be dangerous.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-13-2005, 07:29 PM
white97ex's Avatar
white97ex white97ex is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 3,513
Thanks: 1
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Send a message via AIM to white97ex Send a message via Yahoo to white97ex
Re: Are clear coats waterproof?

it would definately have to be weighted. for it to sink. unless he wanted to allow the fusalage to be filled with water. that would probably be the best thing to do. clear EVERYTHING. that way the water didn't degrade the work over time. and then allow water to fill the whole fusalage, including the cockpit, just my .02
__________________
My name is Russell, feel free to use it.

I'd rather be hated for Who I Am than be loved for Who I Am Not
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-13-2005, 08:24 PM
MikeWz MikeWz is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 112
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to MikeWz
I don't see how it would be a bad thing. Mostly clear on the decals so they don't come off, everything else should be okay. Water does eat away at everything, but it takes a REALLY REALLY REALLY long time. Can't see it hurting the fish either, just make sure he gives the clear about 10 days to harden and fully cure
__________________
Current Model: Ferrari F50
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-13-2005, 08:29 PM
DSM-Mark's Avatar
DSM-Mark DSM-Mark is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 738
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Are clear coats waterproof?

I'd also suggest not using water based acrylics, because they would probably be more likely to get soft or dissolve into the water after long amounts of time.
__________________
I work slowly!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-13-2005, 08:58 PM
LS1Aaron LS1Aaron is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 83
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Are clear coats waterproof?

I would suggest using a flat lacquer as a final coat.Maybe even wait until the tamiya flat spray is available as it will be good for sure.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-13-2005, 11:31 PM
rsxse240 rsxse240 is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,176
Thanks: 0
Thanked 24 Times in 21 Posts
Send a message via AIM to rsxse240
Re: Are clear coats waterproof?

I would test it in a friend's aquarium first to see if the paint kills the fish. plus the glue, and plastic itself.

plastic is a PETROLIUM product!!!! (made from crude oil byproducts) so use caution!!!! as for sealing the decals, I would use laquer only, as enamels take such a long time to gas out, and acrylics are a water based paint anyway (that's a no-brainer)

should make for a really interesting aquarium display.
__________________
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-14-2005, 11:40 AM
Zlaja_'s Avatar
Zlaja_ Zlaja_ is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 500
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via MSN to Zlaja_
Re: Are clear coats waterproof?

The tires would start to decompose after a year or so
Update NEVERMIND! i saw that you were talking about a plane now and not a car :P
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-14-2005, 03:29 PM
Scale-Master's Avatar
Scale-Master Scale-Master is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 3,685
Thanks: 19
Thanked 110 Times in 105 Posts
I have a Minicraft submarine model in one of my tanks, freshwater, been there about 12-15 years. It has weathered nicely. A couple fights with an angry Oscar (the fish started it) and some of the paint, both lacquer and enamels, got scraped off, but that didn't kill the fish. Even the Plecostomus works at cleaning it but most of the paint is still there. Between them they pretty much wiped out all of the rigging and railings, the decals were gone in less than two years... - Mark
Reply With Quote
 
Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Automotive Art > Car Modeling


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:19 PM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts