Call me a moron

[velocitySiR]

yah call me a moron, but most every part for a b16a1 are the same as the a2/a3's correct?? i mean my cap wasn't the same, don't ask why i have no idea..... but is there a site for part cross referencing??

[Moppie]

Your a morron!

what is your engine numbe by the way?
That will tell me a lot about where it came from. and whats differnt.

[velocitySiR]

lol, engine number, jeez i guess i am a moron..... i thought all b16a1's were the same.

[Moppie]

They are all the same, sort of.

Theres a number stamped into the block under the b16a.

If you post it I will you if it came from an integra, a 4g SiR or a 5g or 6g SiR, or even if its a USDM engine.
That will then tell us whats differnt and whats the same.

[Setanta]

It seems like the 1G B16As don't carry all parts the same as the later ones. Throttle bodies and EACV units for example are different, I had issues with the dizzy cap. That's all I've come across so far.

[velocitySiR]

yo, please tell me the spark plugs are the same at least. hahaha

[Setanta]

ummm... yes

[threethirteen]

i've actually been wondering the same thing. i just got a usdm b16a gen 1 engine. now, when i looked for the internals most of them were listed as for the b16a but it called for a 96+ si. i would think most of the parts would fit right but i guess there is a diff between the engines, the gen 1 has 160hp & 111ft.lbs while the gen 2 has 170hp & 113ft.lbs. now i know that isnt a hell of a difference...but i dont want to spend say a buck fifty on a fuel rail that is said to be used on a 92-95 civic if it isnt going to fit.

i have like a week before it comes back from the machine shop and i want to start building right away so i have to order this stuff quick..

[velocitySiR]

no dude they all have the same power, besides the euro ones, sissys lol.... i'm just trying to find out what doesn't fit from a2 (99-00si) and a3 (94-97 del sol vtec)...... i'm about to blow more money on plug wires (or leads for the aussies) and i'm just double checking.

[Moppie]

Originally posted by velocitySiR
no dude they all have the same power,

Actualy moron (hey you said it!) there are 4 differnt power levels.

150hp in the European VTi
157-160hp in the JDM 4g SiR (its ment to be only 157, but according to guys here at honda its actualy more like 160+hp )
160hp in the USDM Del Sol and Si
170hp in the JDM 5g and 6g SiR

All the engines have a differnt CR and so must have differnt pistons
The engines made after 92 also have a differnt ECU.
And all have differnt cams, with the exception of the 150hp euro engine and 160hp JDM engine, which might or might not have the same cams.

ALL BOTTOM END PARTS ARE INTERCHANGABEL. Thats the block, cranks, rods and pistons. Black crank and rods are all the same.
ALL THE HEADS ARE INTERCHANGABLE. Thats the head, cams, valve gear. Heads valves and valve train is also all the same.
Its the rest of the basic bolt on the outside crap thats differnt.
Things like exhasut manifolds, dizzys, VTEC solonoids etc.
Now all these parts are interchangable, but might be differnt to what you already have.

Regarding the dizzy I believe there are only 2 differnt types, but both take the same cap and rotor.
The later 96 on engines including the USDM engines have a differnt dizzy and VTEC solonoid, they are interchangable with eariler ones, but you need both.

Now I am very confused by you not being able to use the later cap and rotor on your car, after all both Bracer and I bolted it straight in, and Setanta got it to work after making a small notch in the cap.
This means there might acutaly be 3 or more differnt dizzys.

SO COULD YOU PLEASE TELL ME YOUR ENGINE NUMBER!
then I can work out when your engine was made, and what model car it came out in.

[SkyNex721]

Originally posted by velocitySiR
no dude they all have the same power,

[bracer]

Originally posted by velocitySiR
no dude they all have the same power, besides the euro ones, sissys lol....

I just pretend I didn't hear that...

The EDM Civic 5G VTi and Del Sol VTi have a 160hp B16A vs 170hp for the JDM market. EDM 4G VT and CRX VT have a 150hp B16A1 vs 160hp JDM SiR. The export markets just get the "detuned" versions of the B16A
which in my believe is only due to different ignition timing and because of Octane ratings. The only reason the USDM market doesn't have a 150hp B16A is because they never had a 4G/CRX SiR, sissys :finger: lol..

[mellowboy]

Originally posted by bracer


The only reason the USDM market doesn't have a 150hp B16A is because they never had a 4G/CRX SiR, sissys :finger: lol..

Thats true BUT our rexes and the 4th gens are lighter than the EDM and JDM versions. SO when we swap it then we are a bit faster than your version

[bracer]

Originally posted by mellowboy


Thats true BUT our rexes and the 4th gens are lighter than the EDM and JDM versions. SO when we swap it then we are a bit faster than your version

But our factory B16's 4th gens have the larger disk brakes and superior suspension, So faster? maybe in a strait line you are

[mellowboy]

Originally posted by bracer


But our factory B16's 4th gens have the larger disk brakes and superior suspension, So faster? maybe in a strait line you are

Then again we can upgrade our suspension!