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View Poll Results: Does morality depends on God or not??
Morality depends on God. 0 0%
Morality does not depend of God. 13 44.83%
They are interconntected in more complex ways. 13 44.83%
I Dunno 3 10.34%
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Old 04-07-2005, 12:04 PM
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Question God and Morality???

hey guys. got a ?. assuming that all of us believe in God, what do u think about this question????
Does morality depend on God or not?? in other words, suppose u take action A which happens to be fall into one of the ten commadments from Bible or are from any religious book. that action A{do not lie} is the right thing to do. now my question is this: Is it a right thing to do because God commands it or God commands it because it is the right thing to do?
I personally believe that God commands it because it is the right thing to do. Your opinions may be different.
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Old 04-07-2005, 12:33 PM
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Re: God and Morality???

God commands, but morality can exist without God's guidance. For example: take an atheist who has no belief in God, and no education about what God's teachings are. This person could have their own set of morals and standards, and actually be a better person that the hypocrite that attends church each Sunday.

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Is it a right thing to do because God commands it or God commands it because it is the right thing to do?
I think that the statement is true both ways.
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Old 04-08-2005, 05:39 AM
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Re: God and Morality???

I am a Christian but I don't believe morality depends on God. The 10 commandments were not simply given out as a set of rules so we knew what was right and what was wrong. People already knew the difference. There was a bigger picture that was being painted. The 10 commandments are a good yardstick. The law that saves can also condemn.
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Re: God and Morality???

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Re: God and Morality???

God gave man free will so we had the right to make our own decisions. We all have a conscience for a reason.
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Re: Re: God and Morality???

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God commands, but morality can exist without God's guidance. For example: take an atheist who has no belief in God, and no education about what God's teachings are. This person could have their own set of morals and standards, and actually be a better person that the hypocrite that attends church each Sunday.


I agree.

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Re: God and Morality???

i dont agree, while some can have there own morals others morals can be out of this world. like kill all who are jewish, and next lets kill all blacks
or lets take over the world so it will be all for japanese
or lets go but in to every other country's bussiness and tell them whats right and wrong.
while some peoples morals can be good others can be horrible.
which is why god gave commandments, not to be controlling, but because these commandments will make the world a better place. if all followed the commandments. it would be, but because lots dont and some never will, those following it sometimes might have to go outside of there commands
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Re: God and Morality???

that's because we are given free will... we make our own decisions.


consider ourselves children and god the parent... we do what we want and suffer or rejoice later.
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Re: God and Morality???

Many say God gave us free will. They also say God knows everything. (even the future) How can both be true?
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Many say God gave us free will. They also say God knows everything. (even the future) How can both be true?
Just because you know something is going to happen doesnt mean you have to fuck with it.
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Just because you know something is going to happen doesnt mean you have to fuck with it.
If he knows what's going to happen then it is preordained and not our choice. To be truly free choice no one can know the outcome beforehand.
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Re: God and Morality???

why?
your mom knew that if you kept playing on the edge you would fall and hurt yourself. though she knew what would happen she let you learn on your own.

did that kid not have freewill?

explain yourself
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why?
your mom knew that if you kept playing on the edge you would fall and hurt yourself. though she knew what would happen she let you learn on your own.

did that kid not have freewill?

explain yourself
Yes he did. But did mom know if I would keep playing on the edge? No, because that is a choice I get to make.
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Re: God and Morality???

Being a parent, I think it's safe to say that the kid will keep playing on the edge until he gets hurt. That must is usually certain. And comparing mom's knowledge of the future with an omniscient God is not even valid.
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Re: God and Morality???

assuming there is an omniscient God
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