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Old 01-15-2005, 02:50 PM
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Lightbulb Tip anyone? On spraying tyre(tire) lettering

I have the Motul Pitwork Nismo Z, and the Tamiya Photo etched part has a mask for appling the Bridgestone logos, well I airbrushed on Flat White Tamiya Enamel which was fine, left till dry and then fitted the tryes, well due to the tight fit and pushing the tyres on, the painted logos cracked off, looking crap.

So I have cleaned it all of and i'll start again.
But need some tips on getting the job done right?

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stencils?! well, how about getting the rims all done, but no decals. then put the tires onto the rims, mask the rims then paint?!
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Re: Tip anyone? On spraying tyre(tire) lettering

Maybe White Gundam Marker ?
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enamel wont work very well, use lacquer paint. that should solve the problem of it cracking.
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Re: Tip anyone? On spraying tyre(tire) lettering

That seems to be a very common issue with F1 modelers. Here is a very helpfull thread on another forum

Anyway, some people use PC paints. Those are more flexible and if you are carefull, they will stretch a little and won't crack.
You can always finish off the wheel (paint and decals), slip the tire on, mask off the wheel and paint the markings with the stencil.
The trick seems to be in the masking process...Personally, I haven't tried it myself, but I will as soon as my MuseumCollection template set arrives.


Hope this helps.

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I Use Very Thinned Latex Paint.Most Craft Stores Have Small Jars Of
White Latex Paint. Just Thin It Down Like Normal And Spray It,But Make Shure To Clean Your Airbrush Right Away.
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Re: Tip anyone? On spraying tyre(tire) lettering

As JT said enamel won't dry properly on vinyl and is not flexable, so movement will cause it to crack. Give Tamiya's Polycarbonate line a try, they are designed to be more flexable for use on the clear plastic bodies of RC cars. I've started using them for painting flexable parts like seatbelts and the paint doesn't crack, when I used to do the same thing with enamels they cracked if bent too far.

Tamiya has both the PC range of spraycans which are lacquer and a bottle series that appear to be acrylic.
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Re: Tip anyone? On spraying tyre(tire) lettering

I was also going to suggest R/C paints. Parma's Faskolor is apparently just re-branded Createx, which is usually cheaper.
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Re: Tip anyone? On spraying tyre(tire) lettering

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I have the Motul Pitwork Nismo Z, and the Tamiya Photo etched part has a mask for appling the Bridgestone logos, well I airbrushed on Flat White Tamiya Enamel which was fine, left till dry and then fitted the tryes, well due to the tight fit and pushing the tyres on, the painted logos cracked off, looking crap.

So I have cleaned it all of and i'll start again.
But need some tips on getting the job done right?

Thanks in advance

if you have a local or a paint salesman (outlet) you can ask hom for a product du make paint more flexible that should work sorry that i cant tell you hvat its called it been a long time sins i used ut my self
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Re: Tip anyone? On spraying tyre(tire) lettering

Thanks Guys
I'll if I can get something flexible tomorrow, as it's the last thing needed to finish the kit off .
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Re: Tip anyone? On spraying tyre(tire) lettering

I use polycarbonate paint, specifically Tamiya's PC paints thinned down. This stuff is flexible and sticks well to rubber in my experience. I thin it approx 1:1 with Tamiya thinner.
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Re: Re: Tip anyone? On spraying tyre(tire) lettering

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I was also going to suggest R/C paints. Parma's Faskolor is apparently just re-branded Createx, which is usually cheaper.
Yup, I use Createx for airbrushing shirts, shoes, hats, etc. And it is quite flexible. Its also what i used on my seatbelts. They come in Opaque colors also.
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I use Tamiya flat White ACRYLIC and only paint the stencil on at the last moment. I create a plastic card template that covers the wheel (labeled so I don't make duplicates), run a ring of masking tape around the tread and thin the white silghtly thicker than usual...30/70 thinner/paint.

Also, an enamel based paint will "never" dry on top of the synthetic rubber.

I used this technique on my Le Mans contest entry Fujimi 917 (images somewhere in the race forum...if an example of the outcome is wanted).

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Re: Tip anyone? On spraying tyre(tire) lettering

Try any flat acrylic or Tamiya white primer. Both will work well. Only spray the stencil after the tire is on the rim. The tire will stretch some and not look correct anyway. For the stencil apply by brush some temporary adhesive such as Micro Scale Liquid Tape to the back. It will help to hold the stencil in place and seal the edges.

Here is a link to a picture.
The tire on the left is a decal while the tire on the right is sprayed through a template.
http://www.scaleracecars.com/images/stencil.jpg



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I tried this a while ago for the first time using some acu-stion stencils. mounted the tyres onto the rims before painting and masked the rim and outer tyre surface off. I used halfords white primer, decanted and airbrushed at low pressure, then scratched the logos up a bit with some course paper for that used look. finally i matt varnished the tyre sidewall. looked much better than the kit decals. next time i am going to try using pactra rc finish white, will let you know how i get on....
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