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Old 11-28-2004, 11:22 PM   #1
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Question Why Did God Put Us Here..??

I firmly believe in God, that being said-i have no real belief in "Religion". If you can grasp that, than ok. Now, i've been reading all these god related posts, and i've always wondered.. What reason for us living, is there?? Why did god make us??

Me, by nature, am very skeptical of somethings.. even god at times. I believe in God, but i always have questions, and i always figured why would you waste your time, and create humans?? And a world none the less. Maybe it's the same as how musicians create music, because they LOVE to. Is that a true answer though??

I also do not believe in the notion at "all things happen for a reason"..yeah, like 10 months year olds being killed.. woman being murdered.. cancer.. aids.. You get me..
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It seems like you are asking the age old question...What is the meaning of life?

Well, there is no real facts to this to be honest. But really, what I feel, being a Christian which is bascially believeing in God is:

I think that God has put us here to worship him in everything that we do and do what we can to witness to others about who God is.

I live my life every day trying to do what God wants me to do and hopefully other people will notice that something is different about me and want to know what I have.

Is this kind of what you wanted to hear?

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Old 11-29-2004, 01:12 AM   #3
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Re: Why Did God Put Us Here..??

Very good, yeah i just want your opinions on WHY basically.

I personally believe that if you, as a person where *able* to create life-you would. I know i will be having a wife one of these days, and i definetly want to reproduce, hence creating life.

Another thing, is maybe we are put here just to pass a test so to speak. We were all little babies at one time, and it's so funny how you can become a rich stock broker, musician, teacher, serial killer, rapist etc.. Yeah some of it is having to do with a mental disorder, but most of the time we can *choose* what to do, and become.

In the end, what is gained though. Whats the ultimate purpose? We will never know, ever..until death i believe.

We can only speculate.
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Old 11-29-2004, 02:00 AM   #4
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Our souls are just a spark that creates consciousness. Each one of our souls are a very small portion of "God". In essence, we are all one, and together we are God. The truth of our existence is infinitely beyond our comprehentions. Mankind simply cannot come up with the TRUE explanation, it's like trying to imagine a new colour. Evolution is our way of understanding, we might look back on these discussions as barbaric one day. Imagine 10,000 years from now, smoking ganja to get low

I think that schizophrenic's have greatly advanced brain activity, an evolutionary mutation... it's just too soon, and can't be handled yet. Or that humanity has found a baseline for brain activity as a collective, and anyone outside this margin has to be crazy. Like if everyone in the world was schizophrenic, then it could be handled.. if you know what i mean. Back in the days of the Pyramid building, perhaps with a MUCH smaller population, schizophrenia would have been called an advantage, or the norm. Its been proven over and over that humans didn't have the mechanical technology needed to build these structures, and we still don't.

anyways.

when we die, we return to "God"... get some rest, then get back to work in reality. Cool eh?
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Re: Why Did God Put Us Here..??

Why do I believe what I believe? Well, one reason to be honest...I was raised that way, it has had a bearing. But mostly because it makes the most sense to me. I look all at all kinds of probablity statistics of how the very fist cell came from prebiotic soup and then everything came from that one cell, it makes more sense to me that there is a higher power that exists. Not only the logic behind it, but I have my heart as well. I feel at peace that I have God in my life and that I have guidence, it is hard to explain exactly what it is like without totally experiencing it.

As for schizophrenia...
For it to be a evolutionary mutation, according to evolutionists, the mutation has to be beneficial to thbe individual. I do not see how schizophrenia is beneficial and so it can not be interpreted as a evolutionary mutation.

As well, I do not believe that we are all "a part of God" and that when we die "we become part of God again". I think God is a completely seperate entity and being from all of us.

What is gained? What is the ultimate purpose?
I honestly have no real fact to give you. But to me it seems that through my person experiences (such as answers to prayer, God keeping me safe, etc. (if you want examples, let me know)) I feel that the ultimate purpose is to live 100% for God and to witness to other people about his love.
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Old 11-29-2004, 11:56 AM   #6
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I find it hard to believe that a Creator would need our support. He is complete without us. Our imaginations will tell us many things if we convince it to a particular belief. You can look at anything and say, oh that's God, he came right out of heaven and painted the Virgin Mary on my grill cheese sandwich. And people will pay $26,000 for it. It's not that I doubt the existence of our Creator, I give him many thanks for the perfection we live in. I just have doubt in the way people perceive him. I also believe that the ability to love is the pinnacle of our existences, and the most bennificial to our lives... but it's not the sole reason for us being here. We are responsible for our actions, and we are destroying the planet.. but we expect an act of God to fix it... or "save us" into the afterlife. We created the situation the world is in, and we will continue to live in it. Reality is heaven and hell.

Imagine all the people, living for today...
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Re: Why Did God Put Us Here..??

To make people like you go "Wtf?"

Honestly who cares why..? We're here, and we die when we die, we dont need to know everything.
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Old 11-29-2004, 02:33 PM   #8
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Re: Why Did God Put Us Here..??

Actually, our parents put us here. Ask them why you're here. (cheap labor?)
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Re: Why Did God Put Us Here..??

hmm

as far as im concerned the only "meaning to life" or "purpose of life" is what we personally assign to it.

if you think your here to worship an egotistical god, then have fun, thats your perogative. i for one, think thats a silly reason to exist.

im here because, well, im here. call it evolution, chance, creation, whathave you, the fact remains i am here. and i havent been told by any higher power that im here for a reason, so im going to simply enjoy myself the best i can, and when i die, well, we'll see who's right when the time comes.
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Re: Why Did God Put Us Here..??

so you're asking for the meaning of life, the universe... and everything?

well, the answer is 42. but beyond that it's really up to you.

the correct answer to the question "why?"
i got this right on my philosophy final 2 semesters ago "why not?" but then again... one of my friends wrote "because" and got 100% also... hmmmmm that's another mystery in itself.

but what we're really here for depends on which brand of philosophy you subscribe to.
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Re: Why Did God Put Us Here..??

Im not even going to read your posts. Im tired of hearing this question. Why don't you just go read the bible. It says we were put here to honor and glorify him. Do so and you spend eternity with him in heaven. Choose not to and you can spend eternity in hell. He gave us a fair chance and I could care less about people who go to hell. Off topic though.
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Re: Why Did God Put Us Here..??

My only thing is this...

Everyone asks "What is the purpose of life" and everyone says that no one can come up with the answer.

I have given you an answer, along with many other people before me. It is really the only one that is offered, and the only one that really makes much sense.

The only thing is that people do not want to accept it, so they continue to ask as if no one has offered up a response.

That is my thinking. If there is only one answer around, is there not an outstanding possibility that is is correct??
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Re: Re: Why Did God Put Us Here..??

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Everyone asks "What is the purpose of life" and everyone says that no one can come up with the answer.
its a subjective answer. your meaning to life isnt my meaning to life.

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I have given you an answer, along with many other people before me. It is really the only one that is offered, and the only one that really makes much sense.
thats, sorry for the insult, an incredably ignorant statement to make. it is not the only one offered. you may feel that way but i invite you to walk into a library any time you like and read several different answers to the question at hand. dont think for a second that your brand of christianity (whatever it may be) is the answer for everyone.

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The only thing is that people do not want to accept it, so they continue to ask as if no one has offered up a response.
there are several reasons people like me refuse to accept that as an answer. most of it has to do with the illiogical explination of god. what god would preach acceptance of such suffering? what god would preach such injustice as hell? what god would demand subordination to himself, but fail to offer any proof of their existence? etc etc etc.

that and i refuse to avoid, indeed sacrifice, the joys of this world for the promise of the possibility of another one beyond it.

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That is my thinking. If there is only one answer around, is there not an outstanding possibility that is is correct??
there isnt just one answer, see above statements
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if you think your here to worship an egotistical god, then have fun, thats your perogative.
Who worships an egotistical god??? I know if your referring to the god that the people in here are talking about and the one and only god from the bible then you are sorely mistaken my friend.
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Im not even going to read your posts. Im tired of hearing this question. Why don't you just go read the bible. It says we were put here to honor and glorify him. Do so and you spend eternity with him in heaven. Choose not to and you can spend eternity in hell. He gave us a fair chance and I could care less about people who go to hell. Off topic though.

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