Elise vs. Viper

[dapriceiswrongb]

Lotus Elise vs. Dodge Viper SRT-10?

Lotus
Price: $39,985
0-60: 4.7
1/4 mile: 13.4
Slalom: 71.2mph
60-0: 105ft
Skidpad: .98g
80-0: 188ft

Dodge
price: 80,995
0-60: 4.1
1/4 mile: 12.2
Slalom: 68.6mph
60-0: 114ft
Skidpad: 1.04g
80-0: 196ft

[drunken monkey]

does this count as a stupid comparison?
i mean.....
little elise, massive viper.

we all know the elise would kill the viper on a track.....

[Kurtdg19]

Well it would really depend on what type of track they are on. The Viper has the brute during the straights, and the Elise will have the agility in tight parts.

[dapriceiswrongb]

drunken monkey...this "stupid comparison" has been made in the fall 2004 issue of SPEED. The tuner magazine that was developed by Road and Track

and for Kurtdg19... the Viper was faster on both tracks the raced on.

Though for the money the elise is a much better buy

[YogsVR4]

I'd rather have the Viper. The Elise is a nimble car and has ok styling. There are other roadsters in its price range I'd own before it.

[dapriceiswrongb]

what other roadsters?

[NISSANSPDR]

This was a comparo that was actually done in R/T's Speed magazine...it's a great magazine...it focuses on sports cars and tuners and such...no mini-vans, no clunky trucks or grocery getting family cars...

I would choose the Elise...w/the $40k I saved...I can make an Elise that whoop any Viper on the road course...

[S2CorollaR]

Not even that.. You could probably make the Elise whoop Vipers with like 20k, and the other 20k you'd just consider to be saved money, or money you saved on a better choice.

Elise for me please.

[NISSANSPDR]

Originally Posted by S2CorollaR

Not even that.. You could probably make the Elise whoop Vipers with like 20k, and the other 20k you'd just consider to be saved money, or money you saved on a better choice.

Elise for me please.

Did I say that I had to spend my $40k? I said...w/the $40k I saved...i could whoop some Viper arse

[drunken monkey]

"speed.....tuner magazine "

no idea what that is.
would i be right in thinking that it has as a focus, tuning?
here's the 'stupid' bit:

1.8 litre inline 4, 190BHP
8.3 litre V10, 500 BHP

y'see that slight difference of 6.5 litres and 310 BHP.

in car terms, that's either a aston martin/ferrari V12 in terms of capacity,
or a an EVO FQ-300 in terms of BHP.

this type of comparison, with a little car that is apparently 'outclassed' in terms of size and numbers, should point you towards which car is actually 'better'.....

if you don't see it, you're probably 14.

[Kurtdg19]

Originally Posted by dapriceiswrongb

and for Kurtdg19... the Viper was faster on both tracks the raced on.

Who would of guessed? I'm not really suprised, but still the Elise is a pure bread compared to the hormone injected Viper. My general point was that if you take the big straights away in favor of the muscle, there would be no room for it to flex. Of coarse, throwing a Viper on an autox would still be a blast!! to drive reguardless. Now what happens when I push this throttle magigy peddle down to far? muahahhaaa.

[S2CorollaR]

Drunken monkey... That 1.8 liter engine that you're spouting off against happens to be the B18C5 that's acclaimed for the #'s it puts out all over the chart. You also fail to realize that because it's a Honda engine, the aftermarket that backbones it has much cheaper parts than the parts that you'd bolt onto a Viper's V10.

With 3000$ you could get a bolt on Turbo kit intended for Integra use, 600$ for it to fit onto the Elise, and you've just added at least 45-70 wheel horsepower to an already perfect chassis that ran mid 13's prior to the mod.

Don't let the ignorance of some of the mainstream Honda fans fool you; their engines do have some massive potential.

I've seen Integra Type R's in stock trim/drivetrain hold leads on Autocross tracks against NSX's that are acclaimed to hold their ground against Ferrari's. That engine has to be doing something right if front wheel drive cars are so horrid. Don't forget that they took this engine, and put it in the middle of a rear wheel drive, middle engine bay car that weighs about as much as my refrigerator with me inside it.

[Kurtdg19]

Originally Posted by S2CorollaR

Drunken monkey... That 1.8 liter engine that you're spouting off against happens to be the B18C5 that's acclaimed for the #'s it puts out all over the chart. You also fail to realize that because it's a Honda engine, the aftermarket that backbones it has much cheaper parts than the parts that you'd bolt onto a Viper's V10.

Oh yea, its that Honda engine that came from a Toyota Celica GTS. Who woulda guessed?

[Neutrino]

^^^ and you fail to realise that the realise never got the B18C5 engine as originally speculated a few years ago. It went with the Celica GTS engine plus a lotus ECU raising the power to 190hp

EDIT:

Originally Posted by Kurtdg19

Oh yea, its that Honda engine that came from a Toyota Celica GTS. Who woulda guessed?

crap you posted a few seconds before me

[Kurtdg19]

Originally Posted by Neutrino

crap you posted a few seconds before me

DRAW....................... hehe jk