street legal turbo

[matt11583]

im lookin for a turbo for a third gen camaro iroc but the only one i can find is teh banks power twin turbo kit. that isnt street legal.. does anyone kno of a street legal turbo kit to put into a camaro???

[89IROC&RS]

www.ststurbo.com

sells a remote mount turbo system that put an added 150 rwhp on a 02 trans am according to testing by super chevy.

[DaMoNe6969]

not a big fan of those STS turbo kits, doesnt seem like itd work all that well to me? but itd definatly be easier and cheaper than a true turbo set up

If it were me, i'de probably fabricate a TT set up myself
You could pick up a set of turbo headers from
http://www.twistdisc.com/id14.html
a couple of Garrett T03 turbo's with .60/.63 A/R compressors.. Or try to find to buick GN turbos.. could be tough

Go to http://www.skulte.com/
I think they were doing a TTZ28.. and a lot of the research has already been done

[Chevyracincamaro]

i cant get on board with those remote mount turbos. im not a fan, it seems to me that the physics of it wouldnt work well enough to get a serious benefit...

[Chevyracincamaro]

since this is kindof on subject: i have been wondering how the laws (in general) are about putting aftermarket forced induction on. ive been thinking about a supercharger for a while, but was hazy as to how it would work with inspection and stuff. dont have to worry about emissions as of right now but my town is supposed to get em in a couple years (at which point i will be screwed). is putting a turbo or supercharger on illegal?

[89IROC&RS]

um guys, what about that 150hp at the rear wheels is questionable?? an independant magazine, did back to back testing of the stock TA, then installed the remote mount turbo kit, and retested, with 150hp extra at the rear wheels. and actually the physics is pretty easy to understand, the intake piping takes up less than a cubic foot of space, so it only takes .05 seconds for the air charge to go from the turbo to the engine. the only thing i dont like is that the air intake is under the car and so close to the rear wheel, first day of driving in the rain that air filter is gonna be soaked and youll have hydro lock, id move that air intake, but other than that its a solid system.

[GTStang]

I'm sure Hypsi could enlighten us more but another problem wit that remote turbo is that turbos work on both gas pressure and heat. That set-up may work but is not very efficient at all. I bet if you kept most things the same but in a more traditional turbo location the RWHP increase would have been more.

Also yes one nice wet day and your hydrolocking ya motor for sure with there filter location.

[89IROC&RS]

ok, well, im not claiming to be a turbo head, and dont really have time right now cuz im tryin to get homework done, but tomorrow if i can find it, ill post a link to the magazine artical online, and let yall sort it out. but apparently there is something different about the turbos to address the temp drop from the engine to the rear. and they say that the turbo on this setup will not work as well if mounted up front, and a front mount turbo will not work as well if mounted out back.

[Dober89]

I cant imagine the drop in exhaust pressure being that severe to make a huge difference. The only real major restriction you have is the cat and the lower turbo temps is good for extra power. They generate alot of heat and I think the sts system is a very interesting setup. Whether or not you think it works go check out the articles. Chevy High Performance also mentioned this system and if I had a 4th gen I would seriously consider it.

[Hypsi87]

Originally Posted by Dober89

I cant imagine the drop in exhaust pressure being that severe to make a huge difference. The only real major restriction you have is the cat and the lower turbo temps is good for extra power. They generate alot of heat and I think the sts system is a very interesting setup. Whether or not you think it works go check out the articles. Chevy High Performance also mentioned this system and if I had a 4th gen I would seriously consider it.

You don't think that drop in pressure and heat can make much of a difference?? Well on my car, a 150* difference in exhust temp is the difference between an 11 second pass and a mid 12 second pass.Lower turbo heat?? WTF is that? If you mean lower turbine temp is good for horsepower. Wong lower turbo temps make for sloww spooling and extremely inefficient air compressoin. If you mean lower intake air temps, then, that is what in intercooler is for. Also as far as the drop in exhaust pressure, think about it. A turbocharger creates it's own backpressure by creating a restriction in the turbine housing. Sooo, where ever the turbocharger is at, it is going to have the same pressures before the turbine housing.

IROC is right, the remote turbos will not work well up front and vise versa. The remote turbos have a Totally different turbinewheel that is not efficient at at all. It is ment to catch EVERYTHING so it can spool. It will make gains but, not compared to a conventioinal turbocharger setup.

Im not bashing the system, just don't expect the gains from it like you would a conventional turbo setup. Also All turbochargers are streetlegal. It's the cars tune that might not be street legal.

[Chevyracincamaro]

i also cant be swayed into putting a turbo underneathe of my gas tank. i dont care what you say or what facts you present, that is a bad idea no matter how you look at it...

[89IROC&RS]

lol it dosnt get any hotter than your muffler does *shrugs*

[matt11583]

r there any other turbo systems than the remote one???

[Hypsi87]

It is hard to find a professional system that will give you extreme gains (over 150HP.) because of the user tuning that would be involved. Im not saying that you are not capible of doing it, it's just that the major copanies that produce these kits don't. They do not want to be responsible for engine failure because of a lean fuel curve at 25 PSI or other major problem that can cause explosions. You will always be happier with a custom job.