Tupac is Alive!

[gang$tarr]

after a conversation with skylinefreak, i thought i've never seen a topic on this at AF
but I thought it'd be interesting....
I think there are WAAAAAAY too many things pointing to him being alive
if he don't come back in 2003 than maybe i'll start believing he's dead....


Here are some things i've collected off websites (copy & paste ), that i thought were interesting:

Las Vegas is a payoff city, meaning all sorts of folks have been known to be on the take. That means doctors, press, lawyers, etc.

The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found... How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert?

The white Cadillac containing the gunmen passes a entourage of 2Pac's boys, many of them body guards... No one gives chase and there are no witnesses...There were no witnesses on the street... How come? Why not, especially right after a heavyweight fight?

The name of 2Pac's album is Makaveli... He was an Italian war strategist who advocated faking one’s death to fool their enemies... 2Pac was a fan of his and had read his books several times. Perhaps 2Pac is taking his advice...

The cover of 2Pac's latest album, Makaveli has 2Pac looking like Jesus Christ... Could he be planning a resurrection?

Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. How come there was no helicopter chase? If some one were to rob a casino, the LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters.. . How come this didn't happen with 2Pac shooting?

2Pac was cremated the day after he died... Since when does some one get cremated the day after a murder?

Las Vegas is still very much a mob town.. No one gets killed on the strip... You have to pretty much get permission in order for something like this to happen. Who was calling the shots on this one?

2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He was 'grazed' by a bullet.. Why did 2Pac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?

2Pac has completed 2 movies and 3 LP’s that have yet to be released.. With so many people upset about 2Pac's death, literally anything connected with him is bound to net a whole lot of cash...

I have heard that there was a 72 million dollar life insurance policy on him which has yet to be cashed. No legal actions could be taken against him as long as it isn’t cashed.

2Pac's video 'I Ain't Mad At Ya' foretold his death

2pac ALWAYS wore his bullet proof vest, why wouldn't he wear it right after a big fight with Orlando Anderson, a known gang member

Tupac said in his song "Life goes on" from his "All Eyez on Me" CD, that when he died he wanted "every rapper" to rap at his funeral, etc. Why didn't Death Row fulfill his death wish?

Suge Knight and 2Pac were the only two music industry people on that high a profile with enough balls to pull off a stunt like faking death... (at the time)

The Makaveli album (The Don Killuminati - The 7day Theory): Who is the producer Simon? In the bible, Simon helped Jesus carry the cross. Who was helping Pac with his burden?...Suge Knight. What's Joshua Dream? Joshua in the Bible, dreamed of Jesus rising from the dead. Why did Pac have Exit Tupac-Enter Makaveli? Cuz he is a new person. Tupac was killed off.

Why wouldn’t a company as powerful and rich as Death Row Records not put up a reward to find the killers?

Other possible clues are contained in the new album. It is called "The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory" which is still a mystery in definition. Inside the cover, it reads "Exit: 2pac, Enter: Makaveli" as if 2pac has died and Makaveli born. There is also the mysterious ‘SIMON’

There are many numerological coincidences. Tupac was gunned down exactly seven months after All Eyez on Me was released. The number seven keeps coming up too. He was shot on September 7th and survived on 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and died the 13th. This could explain the 7 day theory. His age adds up to 7 (2 + 5). Even his time of death, 4:03, adds up to 7 (4 + 0 + 3). His badge number in Gang Related adds up to 7 and 7 is repeatedly seen in both Gang Related and Gridlock'd.

Autopsy Photos: First off, how did Cathy Scott get a picture. She says they are locked up, but somehow this one slipped out. If you gonna show me a pic, show me one showing a face. Its also like she expects people to doubt the realness of the pic, cuz she tries to explain that we can clearly see his tatoos. She expects no one to believe her. She says it has to be him, cuz we can see the tatoo. Anybody who works in movies can make this pic. If you had a good computer and you good with it, you could make it. Her whole book is phony. The death certificate say Pac is 6ft, and weighs 215. I don't think so. And nobody puts 50 lbs of blood in someone. I bet Pac had this photo made so he can slow down the alive rumors, cuz at first there wasn't one done, then everyone start saying he is alive and now we have an autopsy. hmmmmmm

Lack of photos: How come late at night in New York where nothing big is going on at the time, a photographer can get a picture of Pac giving him the finger, while being put in the ambulance. Yet not one photographer, media person, or even a tourist,(this is Las Vegas) get one pic of Tupac. Someone got a pic of him sitting in a car with Suge, but no one got one when it matter. You think the Pic of him alive would be worth something, how much you think a pic of him shot would cost. All we get is a pic of his car, and his entourage on a curb, Cmon.

Why so fast: How are you gonna have a autopsy and a cremation in less then 24 hours after death. Let alone, this was a murder victim. That is unreal, but now we have no body. Also why did Pac make all those videos, songs, guest appearances, and movies, so fast. Cuz anything with his name on it now, means Mo Money.

Political Party: I believe Pac will return in 2003, right in time for the election campaign for 2004. Also did you notice thatJesse jackson and Al harpton were both at the hospital, when Pac supposely was shot.Jesse got experience with politics and so does Al. They can help pac out, and find a candidate for his party.(Pac can't run, he won't be 35 and he is a convicted felon).

Orlando Anderson: I see his situation in 2 ways. Either Pac just choose him to fight, to make it look like someone had a reason to kill him, or he was in on Pac's plot. I mean how come he ain't dead yet. I'm sure it is a lot easier to kill him, then Biggie. I don't care how much you stay in the house. And for those that say that Pac took off his vest cuz he felt safe, is bull. If the fight with Orlando was legit(which it wasn't) why would he feel safe. Orlando is a gang member. Orlando even tried to help Suge out, but some question that, so after the trail he changed his story.

7's: Why all these muthafuckin 7's. Its not a coindence. Its too many for that to be. Pac put them there for clues, to let us know he will return. Why does everything to do with his death has a 7 to it. C'mon, he had to die at 4:03. why not 4:04. It wouldn't work. Now his mom the person who is suppose to stop the alive rumor add another 7. In the video, "I wonder If Heaven Got a Getto," she has it where Pac arrive on Sept 14, in a place like Arizona or even Mexico, and then she goes to 6 days later. Another 7 days. What is her reason for this? She knows what she did.





And here are some quotes from 2pac's songs, words that pac said, that are hints of him being alive:

"I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word" This implies that he knew he would be dead when the album is released. (from "niggas gone changed")

In the song Thug Luv with the bone thugs, Bizzy after his verse and before Pac, says, "He's alive, He alive"
Why would they do that? Why would they change their album name to Art Of War. A title of Machiavelli's book. They are down with the plot. They know what is up.

He says: "I heard rumor I died, mudered in cold blood dramatized. Pictures of me in my final stages, you know mam cried, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted, Like I no longer existed, mysteriously missing, But I'm worldwide baby, I ain't hard 2 find..."
in his song: aint hard 2 find
That pretty much tells us everything that happened when he died
the picture he talks about is his fake autopsy photo

In the song Blashemy: When the guy in the beginning says,"unless the lord does return in the next 7 days...." after 7 days, listen for Pac to say,"7 years", and then right after he says this you hear, "don't start that blasphemy", and then again louder. He also starts to say follow me. He will return in 2003. He will be a leader.

in the song white man's world he says "My time away just made perfection. You think I'd die?"
why doesn't he just say "i'm faking my death" lol

"Gunshots to Tut, now you stuck." - from against all odds
Walter "King Tut" Johnson was killed in January of 97 outside a resturaunt, victim of gunshots. He was one of the three men who shot Pac in 1994 and robbed him. Later on in the hospital Tut called Pac and asked what he was still doing alive and said they would finishg the job. This is why Pac left the hospital so fast.

"I was stuck in the game, cuz everybody in the industry was fuckin' me man. Listen I got a scheme, break away, do my own thing, drop some conversation, sit back and let the phone ring."
ANOTHER line that explains everthing from the song fright night

in the same song he said "Niggas, they don't wanna see me rise, NINETY-SEVEN, watch me cut these muthafuckas down to size."
in '97 Biggie Smalls was killed, and B.I.G. was tupac's enemy

"Can you picture my specific plan? To be the man in this wicked land, underhanded hits are planned."
In this song - troublesome '96 - he is talking about his plan to fake his death, and he could be talking about putting hits on biggie and king tut after his death


These talk all about biggie's death!

In the song Fucking With the Wrong Nigga: "Watching time fly. Best stategize on a way to profit, Best organize how they ride so they can't stop it."
Pac after his so called death, and before Biggie's was sitting back watching time fly, trying to create a plan on how to make money for a political party, and also studying Biggie's moves to make a hit on him. Its only payback, for Biggie not warning Pac when he got shot.

from the same song "Made a call for some backup, the littles homies and my dawgz in a black truck. Buck Buck was the sound as they gats burst. No need for an ambulance, baby bring the black hearse, shoulda never fuck around buster, How you figure making moves on the wrong nigga."
The car that drove a along Biggie, was a BLACK Suburban. Biggie was killed , and even though Puffy got him to the hospital, should of just took him to the morgue.

in the song - god bless the dead tupac says "Rest in peace to my muthafucka Biggie Smalls."
how could he know that BIG is dead when biggie died 6 months AFTER him?





THAT'S WAAAAAAAAY TOO MUCH TO BE COINCIDENCE!!

[DaFoo]

The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found... How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert?

I am guessing you have never been to Las Vegas. It is a huge city. The cops would have a hard time finding it in a town of 70,000 people. There are other murders and burgleries that go on. The whole city wasn't on white Caddy watch that night.

The white Cadillac containing the gunmen passes a entourage of 2Pac's boys, many of them body guards... No one gives chase and there are no witnesses...There were no witnesses on the street... How come? Why not, especially right after a heavyweight fight?

Chase a Caddy that just shot the hell out of your friend? He's laying there dying, and most of his friends were pussies. In the fight (On the MGM Grand Hotel video camera. The last shot of Pac before he died), they just stand around. No help there.

The name of 2Pac's album is Makaveli... He was an Italian war strategist who advocated faking one’s death to fool their enemies... 2Pac was a fan of his and had read his books several times. Perhaps 2Pac is taking his advice...

Now your just relating stuff. That's like the psychic dream. When you dream of a car crash and then you really get into a car crash. The dream told you, right! Nope. Because if your dad gets in a crash, or your mom, or anyone of your friends do, you will believe it was your dream. The spider web effect. Anyone can come up with coincidences on a CD. "Hey man, the first sentence on the credit has the words D E A T and H in it. Oh my God!"

Las Vegas is still very much a mob town.. No one gets killed on the strip... You have to pretty much get permission in order for something like this to happen. Who was calling the shots on this one?

No it's not. Not even close. All the big casinos now are run by corporations. Not to say the mob doesn't play a small part, but this isn't the 70's.

2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He was 'grazed' by a bullet.. Why did 2Pac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?

I will check up on this, but I though Shug did get hit?

I have heard that there was a 72 million dollar life insurance policy on him which has yet to be cashed. No legal actions could be taken against him as long as it isn’t cashed.

Okay, 72 million. Come on now. Even if it was true, it would go to his family, which brings me to:

Tupac said in his song "Life goes on" from his "All Eyez on Me" CD, that when he died he wanted "every rapper" to rap at his funeral, etc. Why didn't Death Row fulfill his death wish?

That's great that he wanted a huge pussy party and a $hit load of alcohol and drugs at his funeral. A big party. Would your family do it for you? Keep in mind that he's not getting burried by Snoop Dogg here. His relatives choose. Also, that's what HE said. He also said he was a player, and up until he got with Death Row, he was a fucking dork.

I'm just going to stop there. This is so gay. Anything siad about Biggie was done before he died on record. Anything after was hinting that he might die. If you know anything about that, the person responsible is most likely an ex cops friend that hung out with Pac. He drove the same car spottted and looks identicle to the picture witesses had drawn. People knew. If Pac is alive, and he really does come out, I will let you have sex with my girlfriend. That is how conident I am.

[DaFoo]

Oh, by the way. Do you really think that if it was staged, the doctors wouldn't have said anything? Wouldn't they get prosocuted? You can fire blanks at people on the street and get away with it in such a huge case. The cops hated him, they robably would have said something if he was still alive. Also, I have seen Pac in real life, in Texas. And he WAS NOT wearing a damn bullet proof vest. Wham, Bam, thank you m'aam.

[ac427cpe]

dude... he is dead.

one of my best friends aunts is a nurse that was in the room when he died. i've talked to her about it, so it is either true, or REALLY REALLY REALLY GOOD BS

[taranaki]

You'd have to be pretty gullible to take this kind of stuff seriously!

Not like Elvis....everybody knows he's working at K-Mart......

[SickLude]

yeah, Hoffa lives down the street from me...

[Gonthrax]

G$, I love Tupac, I think he was a great rapper, but he's dead man... And it went down like this. Eastside, Westside, Fuck that click, no fuck that click. They got him and Biggie died because of it. Its gang violence, plain and simple.

[Tom_S8]

I heard Tupac was seen in switzerland recently. Also i have heard that some of those "lost tapes" that were realized after his death were made by someone with a very similar voice and cops have found and arrested that guy...

OK. For the record. Tupac Shakur is dead.

D-E-A-D.

Regardless of what supposed facts are spewed across the internet he is dead. People may want to Elvis his ass but it aint gonna happen.

[Gonthrax]

Originally posted by Sham365
OK. For the record. Tupac Shakur is dead.

D-E-A-D.

Regardless of what supposed facts are spewed across the internet he is dead. People may want to Elvis his ass but it aint gonna happen.

Yes!! And so is Biggie. I don't see why people say that 2pac is alive and dont' think Biggie is

To bad they are both dead

Originally posted by Gonthrax

To bad they are both dead

I don't wish death upon anyone, but I do not believe that the deaths of Biggie Smalls and Tupac were tragedies. Both rapped about killing people and being killed themselves. I think they were both victims of the images they created of themselves - especially Tupac. If they were alive today, do you actually think they would be born again Christians like Mase? I highly doubt it. Tupac lived the thug life, condoned the thug life and died before his time, just like a thug. Did you expect a guy like Tupac to die of old age? Just like when Big Pun died. Do you think people were shocked? He was grossly overweight and it's a know fact that being overweight to the point that he was will greatly diminish your life expectancy. Tragic, un-expected, sad, deaths are Big L, Freaky Tah, and Aaliyah. Those are true tragedies that peopel can feel bad about. But, if you lead a life that leads to an early death then people can't be shocked.

So, no, I don't think it was too bad. A loss to the music industry, yes, but a shock, no.

[gang$tarr]

Originally posted by DaFoo

I am guessing you have never been to Las Vegas. It is a huge city. The cops would have a hard time finding it in a town of 70,000 people. There are other murders and burgleries that go on. The whole city wasn't on white Caddy watch that night.

In a regular town, yes. but after an investigation, in a city in the middle of the desert. You tell me, where would they hide the car? They would have found it.

Chase a Caddy that just shot the hell out of your friend? He's laying there dying, and most of his friends were pussies. In the fight (On the MGM Grand Hotel video camera. The last shot of Pac before he died), they just stand around. No help there.

Okay, these were BODY GUARDS with him. Big hard guys from the ghetto like Suge. Their job is to protect his ass. They wouldn't just watch the car drive away. Pac's friend's aren't pussies, and i bet you wouldn't say that to any of their faces.

Now your just relating stuff. That's like the psychic dream. When you dream of a car crash and then you really get into a car crash. The dream told you, right! Nope. Because if your dad gets in a crash, or your mom, or anyone of your friends do, you will believe it was your dream. The spider web effect. Anyone can come up with coincidences on a CD. "Hey man, the first sentence on the credit has the words D E A T and H in it. Oh my God!"

Why would he change his name to Makavelli, a guy who knows the art of faking his death, right before his own death?

I will check up on this, but I though Shug did get hit?

Suge got grazed by a bullet, he didn't get hit. That's a fact

Okay, 72 million. Come on now. Even if it was true, it would go to his family, which brings me to:

I don't believe this either, it was a rumor.

That's great that he wanted a huge pussy party and a $hit load of alcohol and drugs at his funeral. A big party. Would your family do it for you? Keep in mind that he's not getting burried by Snoop Dogg here. His relatives choose. Also, that's what HE said. He also said he was a player, and up until he got with Death Row, he was a fucking dork.

I think you're stereotyping, not all rapping is alcohol, pussy and drugs. Just rapping one nice verse about pac at his funeral wouldn't hurt anybody, and i'm SURE is family wouldn't mind.

REMEMBER this is ALL copy & paste from websites..... i didn't write any of that stuff
I just thought it would be an interesting topic

And i'm pretty much on the line, i dunno weather to believe he's dead or alive. Just that is alot of coincidences......

and biggie is dead


i hope there's atleast one person on AF that'll post an opinion on why they think Pac is alive, so this thread gets interesting

(Skyline and DVS.... help me out )

[gang$tarr]

Originally posted by DaFoo
Oh, by the way. Do you really think that if it was staged, the doctors wouldn't have said anything? Wouldn't they get prosocuted? You can fire blanks at people on the street and get away with it in such a huge case. The cops hated him, they robably would have said something if he was still alive. Also, I have seen Pac in real life, in Texas. And he WAS NOT wearing a damn bullet proof vest. Wham, Bam, thank you m'aam.

look at what i put up...... from some website. They said Vegas is a pay off city, the doctors could have easily been payed off. Also they said that Tupac wasn't even seen at the hospital, or he could have slipped out back.

Suge Knight aint no pussy.... alot of people in the rap industry are scared of him. P diddy won't even get in the same room as him, same with snoop.
He is tough, i don't doubt that bit and i'm sure i'm not the only one

also you say all his friends are pussies, well i'm pretty sure that the death of king tut, orlando johnson and biggie are some how pac related. And that their deaths were done by people who either knew or supported pac (this is just my opinion)

Right now i'm at school, so i don't have time to back my stuff up with facts, this is all that i'm just remembering off the top of my head

[SkYLiNeFrEaK]

Wow, I've never seen such pathetic uses of words from fellow members here.




First off, 2pac was cremated less then 24 hours after his death. EVEN if his moms payed a bunch of cash to thepeople that cremate bodies, they still can't cremate you less then 24 hours after the death of that particular loved one. Theres to much paperwork, and or things to be done with the body, before it can be cremated. and It can't happen in less then 24 hours. But, 2pac is dead? I'd like to see a corpse please......or records of his so called cremation. There isn't even a death certificate for Tupac. But, all im saying is, the docters can get prosecuted for hiding him? Not really. They don't have to say anything at all....Things can be staged, and yes, staged things happen all the time...Hmm, is 2pacs death a staged event. More then likely it was like this, for him to get out of the media spotlight he was always in. The only way out is. "Faking ones own death". That was pacs only way out of this. But I'm still sticking to the, 2pac isn't dead, until i see a death certificate, and remants of his body.......which there would be some....Don't go off posting that fake ass autopsy pic now, because EVERYONE knows that shit is fake.

[ragt20]

yep he is alive and well .....only in disguise.....see below.......

































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