prelude vs. 02 wrx

[fatninja19]

would a honda prelude with tiptronic, a moded air box with high flow air filter, and a 75 shot of nitrous beat(up to 100mph) a new wrx with an AEM c.a.i. considering both drivers are equally talented in racing?

[BigBlock454]

Sorry man I don't have an answer for that... but I have another question on the WRX's racing ability. I know two guys that have been talking s__t to each other about how fast their cars are that they will totally smoke the other guy, but they never go out and race to try and prove themselves... its a 2001 Mustang GT, which is automatic, he ran a 14 flat in the 1/4... the other is a 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX, which is manual, both are completely stock, assuming that the Impreza driver is good with the stick, who do you think would win in a race?

[fatninja19]

i say the stang will win... what i hear is that the wrx has no top end...

[Nxtyoung]

If Its road course raing (aka real racing) then i would go for the WRX. I say this because a friend of mine tool his moms WRX out on some wicked curves and handeled them at 92 mph.

[LjasonL]

well i think im the impreza authority round these parts soo, i will tell u the wrx will wipe the floor with the prelude. no question in my mind. trust me, if everything else ive ever said was a lie, this isnt. hell MY impreza would prob take that prelude, and its not even a wrx. u dont understand the advantage of being able to launch at redline, with a lot of torque (for an import anyway) and not spin tires just go. i raced a new prelude with an intake headers exhaust and cam gears at the track when mine was stock and i beat him my more than 1.5 seconds. assuming the nitrous will give it about 1-1.5 seconds that makes it prob pretty even with my car. and i KNOW a stock wrx will hand me my ass. i got killed by a new acura rsx type s and this stock wrx raced him, man the wrx didnt even launch hard he just took off like normal then floored it, and still took the rsx by a length. and if the wrx driver is a good driver, he will smoke the mustang too. but theres a fine method to properly launching an impreza, it takes a LOT of practice, cuz the awd grips so good even dropping the clutch at redline will cause it to bog down a little. im comparing i raced a new mustang v6 auto, and beat him by 3 lengths, so im guessing the wrx should kill an auto gt, in fact should take a manual gt too, but dont know cuz i havent seen that race yet.
and as for road racing, which car has won 4 manufacturesr titles in the wrc, prelude? mustang? nope, impreza. at the last autocross i went to my impreza (NOT a wrx mind u) beat a 2001 camaro ss by 6 seconds. of course i beat a wrx by 2 seconds. i think its cuz mines a wagon, the 80 extra pounds over the rear end REALLY helps to rotate around the tighter corners, instead of understeer like a 4 door. i know this cuz i have driven both 4 door and wagon versions of the new wrx AND rs, and i own a ts so i think i got em all covered there.
sorry so long, dont get me started on imprezas, especially comparing them to hondas! BLASPHEMY!

[MAD_C_ZN]

Despite the long preaching above me, i believe it will be pretty close. Hondas and nitro go together like big blocks and drag racing. Nitro will give some pretty good jump off the top, but then again the wrx has the awd working for it, so it won't be far behind. The kicker is the wrx will probably take the prelude if you're racing to 100, as hondas, even with nitro squit, have absolute shit for top end power. The wrx has the turbocharger, which carries it's top end even higher then it already is...subaru is famous in Calgary for top end power.......my brother's girlfriend drives an old XRI or some damn thing by subaru, and she had the turbo yanked and rebuilt and put back in. While doing so, i raced her in my Pontiac. The Parisienne maxs out at about 140mph on my spedometer, carrying me over to an estimated 160mph (eventually). She was 3 car lengths back pacing me up til i hit the 140, and then she lost her top end. Having had the turbo back in, she'd have kept going.

The point of all this? The race will be pretty damn close, but i agree that the wrx will probably take it.

[fatninja19]

stock the prelude has around 195-200 hp. with the air box mod, i will say about another 5 hp. then with the nitrous, its another additional 75 hp and AT LEAST 75 lb/ft. thats around 275 hp vs. the wrx's 227 plus AEM c.a.i. ... the AWD system also takes more power away from the ground. lets say they go up to 130 mph then... i think the prelude wins.

and honda is all about top end... vtec doesnt even kick in untill around 5k rpm

[RazorGTR]

so your comparing a stock standard WRX to a modded up prelude? Gee what about mod to mod for a better comparison.

The Rex will shit all over the honda off the line. That is a given. In a 1/4 race the Rex should be in the mid to upper 13's with a good driver, while that prelude driver will be searching for traction and even if he did get it still would not over come the lauch difference. We have quite a honda's that are modded simularly and only run mid to low 14's.

[LjasonL]

Originally posted by fatninja19
stock the prelude has around 195-200 hp. with the air box mod, i will say about another 5 hp. then with the nitrous, its another additional 75 hp and AT LEAST 75 lb/ft. thats around 275 hp vs. the wrx's 227 plus AEM c.a.i. ... the AWD system also takes more power away from the ground. lets say they go up to 130 mph then... i think the prelude wins.

dude trust me the wrx will win. my impreza only has 165 hp, take away whatever the hell u wanna take away for it being awd, itll still leave a 200hp prelude without trying. and not just on takeoff either. trust me, ive raced preludes before. ive raced modded preludes before. like i said in my previous post my car stock ran 1.5 seconds faster than a new prelude manual with intake headers cat back exhaust and cam gears. and like i said, i got the 165 hp impreza. one night at the track this guy had a NEW 200 hp prelude motor in an old light ass 86 prelude. guess what? i took him by 3 tenths. he was lighter and had more hp, but thats not always what wins races. ive been in a lot of races, and i tell u put someone in that wrx that knows how to drive it and itll eat that prelude for breakfast. hell send it my way, i might be able to take it, it wouldnt be the 1st honda with nitrous my STOCK subaru has beaten. in fact itd be #5, the previous 4 were 2 civic exs, and 2 civic sis. hondas do NOT lend themselves well to nitrous, whatever u may have heard. ive ridden in and driven hondas and other imports with nitrous, hondas arent good for it.

[LjasonL]

Originally posted by MAD_C_ZN
Despite the long preaching above me

okay well 1st it was so long cuz i backed up everything i said in it with things that i have seen with my own eyes, or in most cases, done with my own car. not just stuff i think or was somebody told me happened. i dont just make up stuff when i say it on here, why would i do that? i dont have anyone to impress on here, ill never even see any of u in real life.

Originally posted by MAD_C_ZN
Hondas and nitro go together like big blocks and drag racing. Nitro will give some pretty good jump off the top, but then again the wrx has the awd working for it, so it won't be far behind.

hondas and "nitro" go together huh? hondas mainstream performance cars, the integra and civic type r, have an 11.0:1 compression ratio, hardly a nice place to go spraying nitrous. even the humbler si's and gsr's are not known for having stock motors that are veryreliable under even medium levels of forced induction. but if u did have nitrous on a honda, it wouldnt give it much at all for a "jump" as the thing wouldnt get enough traction to go ANYWHERE when spraying nitrous from a takeoff. only the lower ex's can get away with spraying from a standstill, and my almost stock impreza (once again i stress not a wrx, wrx is much faster than mine) will STILL beat it on takeoff. i know this from, as i said earlier, experience in my own car, where i have beaten not only one but 2 ex's who sprayed from a standstill and i left them on takeoff and they never caught me. so no, nitrous, or "nitro" as u call it wouldnt give the prelude the takeoff advantage, the wrx would still leave it like its not moving. so the prelude has nitrous? that means it MIGHT get a mid 14 in the 1/4 mile, but im betting on a high 14-low 15, which is what my impreza (once again NOT a wrx) gets. i honestly dont even know if itll be that fast. the only lightly modded honda with nitrous i ever saw on a real track was a del sol vtec with a 75 shot, i raced him, i beat him by a good half a second. and that was back when i was running in the 15.3-15.5 range. having gotten more experiece, im now down to the 14.8-15.1 range, and thats while carrying 300 lbs of passenger and sound system, the interior of the del sol was stripped, even the carpet and sound deadener, and he didnt have a passenger.

Originally posted by MAD_C_ZN
hondas, even with nitro squit, have absolute shit for top end power.

top end power is the only thing hondas have. they have NO torque, and the vtec doesnt change lobes till late in the rpm band, giving the cars a very peaky powerband all concentrated in the top end. dont believe me? look at a honda dyno chart, stock or modified it doesnt matter. or ask anyone on here who owns a honda. i used to own a civic, now i own another honda along with my impreza, so just like i had experience in all the things i said about my impreza, i also have personal experience in the powerband of a honda.

Originally posted by MAD_C_ZN
but i agree that the wrx will probably take it.

well u got that part right!

mad_c_zn if u have information that will prove me wrong, by all means post it and i will consider myself schooled. but please make it something substantiated, to just "what u think will happen". ive been in a lot of races, both street, dragstrip, and autocross, and i have a pretty good grasp of what a particular car is and isnt capable of.

to everyone else, sorry about having to post this big long thing, dont like it when people talk crap bout my beloved impreza, especially when they dont know what theyre talking about.

[bluevette74]

kids kids kids! first off that honda better have more than an intake to be able to run the nos that yall are talking about. Nitrous oxide isnt a toy, its not a 75hp booster that you can just throw on any car! sure it might make 1 or 2 maybe 3 races, but after that your going to be picking pistons off of the track.

The wrx will deffinetley kill the auto gt, stick gt's that are stock only run like 15's, so i dont see how that auto gt ran a 14. "most stock gt's are really not that fast"

[flylwsi]

well... im pretty sure mustangs are quicker than 15.

but that isnt the point.

no matter what kinda power you got, that honda still has an auto. that is a hell of a shot in the foot there. i have driven a 5gen auto with i/h/e and all that, and i still beat it in my 3gen b/c i could downshift...

that nitrous is great for 75 more hp, but come on, if you just sit and spin em, what good is that?
hondas have tons of topend, and the prelude isnt lacking in tq. 170 isnt bad there. but its an auto. if they are equally skilled, i would have to take the wrx hands down...