-
Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Coffee Break (Off-Topic) > Philosophizing
Register FAQ Community
Philosophizing Throwing around ideas about life, the universe, and everything.
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 08-24-2004, 10:12 AM
arsenal arsenal is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Human memory

It may not really be philosophy but, how does your memory work? How is your brain able to keep information and bring it back up?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-24-2004, 12:27 PM
YogsVR4's Avatar
YogsVR4 YogsVR4 is offline
Funding the welfare state
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 17,795
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Send a message via AIM to YogsVR4
http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/exhi.../brain/278.asp













__________________
Resistance Is Futile (If < 1ohm)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-24-2004, 03:23 PM
2Slow4U_Noob 2Slow4U_Noob is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 535
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to 2Slow4U_Noob Send a message via Yahoo to 2Slow4U_Noob
Re: Human memory

I took a psychology class once and we studied memory and did little experiments and all that, but I remember talking about one particular experiment some people did. What they did was, they trained an earthworm to do something or avoid something until it always performed that action when they wanted it to, then they cut it in half and when it grew back both sides remember to do that action meaning that memory lives throughout the body not just the brain like most people would think...i thought that was neat
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-24-2004, 03:33 PM
ec437's Avatar
ec437 ec437 is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,447
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Re: Human memory

training earthworms? lol... but do earthworms even have brains?
__________________


SoStAsSaId: and the flight attendant is cute... if i was a lesbian, i'd join the mile high club

<---call this number
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-24-2004, 04:44 PM
blindside.AMG's Avatar
blindside.AMG blindside.AMG is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,910
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to blindside.AMG
Re: Human memory

Ask Pickle, she's the expert on this now.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-24-2004, 06:33 PM
pickle pickle is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,163
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to pickle Send a message via MSN to pickle
Re: Human memory

I AM (unless I fail my report, then I talk bollocks)! OK SO HERE IT GOES

When you hear/read something it enters your sensor registery. From there the brain determines which part of the memory it goes to, long term or short term depending on how useful the information is. Most information is discared and forgotten. Stuff in your short-term memory can be remembered for a few minutes, while stuff in your long term memory can be remembered for as long as it's needed.

Like if you're read a list of words and you're asked to remember the words and recall them(the experiment I had to do for my report), they enter your sensor registery then goes into your short term memory. You're most likely to remember the first items and last items best because the last items are the most recent to enter your brain, and the first because well I forgot why! I'll edit this when I get home and fix it up so it makes more sense and has the correct crap.
__________________

blindside.AMG: i just turned on my HIGH VELOCITY AIR CIRCULATOR on
blindside.AMG: fancy huh
pickle: does it have a big name to compensate for your small penis?
blindside.AMG: you know it baby
blindside.AMG: but in all seriousness
blindside.AMG: the Benz is to compensate for my small penis


Ssom: I am a very sexy man and should be making some caramel coloured babies with white women


Last edited by pickle; 08-24-2004 at 10:38 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-24-2004, 06:44 PM
eversio11's Avatar
eversio11 eversio11 is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,952
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to eversio11
Re: Re: Human memory

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Slow4U_Noob
I took a psychology class once and we studied memory and did little experiments and all that, but I remember talking about one particular experiment some people did. What they did was, they trained an earthworm to do something or avoid something until it always performed that action when they wanted it to, then they cut it in half and when it grew back both sides remember to do that action meaning that memory lives throughout the body not just the brain like most people would think...i thought that was neat
Are you kidding me? That makes entirely no sense at all.
__________________
"The greatest Americans have not been born yet,
they are waiting
patiently
for the past to die"
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-24-2004, 10:41 PM
Jas_M Jas_M is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 962
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Jas_M Send a message via Yahoo to Jas_M
Perhaps he's referring to muscle memory, though i think those impulses are still stored in the brain, aren't they?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-25-2004, 01:15 AM
Z_Fanatic's Avatar
Z_Fanatic Z_Fanatic is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,545
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
3 types of memory/storage bin:

sensory - staring at an object however long, afterwards, 2-3 sec, and memory is gone, Unless:
short-term - memorize to remember in short time, it will last 5-10 mins, Unless:
long-term - repeat, condition, or something eventful or traumatic, etc, will depend how many years it will last.

I think the rest is self-explanatory, at least if you ever opened the 2nd page of Psych book in High School.

Muscle memory:

http://www.simlog.com/muscle-memory.html

That worm experiment sounds more like Pavlov's conditioned reflex than any functions of memory.

http://www.ivanpavlov.com/

"Some species of earthworms have a tongue-like lobe above the mouth called prostomium. The prostomium is actually a sensory device. Earthworms do not have a nose, eyes, ears, or hands to gather sensory information about their environment. Instead, they depend on their prostomium and sensory receptors in their skin to "feel" their way through the soil."

Yup disected them plenty, no eyes and ears.

Amazing what a little search engine is able to provide.
__________________
I'm the greatest!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-25-2004, 03:00 PM
2Slow4U_Noob 2Slow4U_Noob is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 535
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to 2Slow4U_Noob Send a message via Yahoo to 2Slow4U_Noob
Re: Re: Re: Human memory

Quote:
Originally Posted by eversio11
Are you kidding me? That makes entirely no sense at all.

hey it was an introductory pysch class i took 4 yrs ago..i just remember parts of that experiment..i think it was an experiment in muscle memory ..i just thought it was cool..experiments rock!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-25-2004, 09:36 PM
MagicRat's Avatar
MagicRat MagicRat is offline
Nothing scares me anymore
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 10,702
Thanks: 12
Thanked 82 Times in 77 Posts
Re: Re: Re: Re: Human memory

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Slow4U_Noob
hey it was an introductory pysch class i took 4 yrs ago..i just remember parts of that experiment..i think it was an experiment in muscle memory ..i just thought it was cool..experiments rock!
This experiment uses 'flatworms' not earthworms. A flatworm is a very primitive form of animal life, (more so than an earthworm) and it just proves the decentralised nature of the flatworms nervous system.

BTW if you cut an earthworm in half, you will end up with a dead earthworm.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-09-2004, 02:40 AM
integra818's Avatar
integra818 integra818 is offline
AF Fanatic
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,115
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Send a message via AIM to integra818 Send a message via Yahoo to integra818
Re: Re: Human memory

Quote:
Originally Posted by pickle
I AM (unless I fail my report, then I talk bollocks)! OK SO HERE IT GOES

When you hear/read something it enters your sensor registery. From there the brain determines which part of the memory it goes to, long term or short term depending on how useful the information is. Most information is discared and forgotten. Stuff in your short-term memory can be remembered for a few minutes, while stuff in your long term memory can be remembered for as long as it's needed.

.
Very interesting.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-12-2004, 03:37 AM
76 maverick's Avatar
76 maverick 76 maverick is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 300
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
When you hear/read something it enters your sensor registery. From there the brain determines which part of the memory it goes to, long term or short term depending on how useful the information is. Most information is discared and forgotten. Stuff in your short-term memory can be remembered for a few minutes, while stuff in your long term memory can be remembered for as long as it's needed.
Why is it that I can remember nude girls , stupid dumb jokes , year make and modle of my mothers old car from when I was 5 years old (1969 dodge dart ,318/auto with dual exhaust and glasspacks) but when I studdy for a test (don`t matter for what) I can`t remember squat ?

I`m not being a jerk I realy wanna know .

Thanks.
__________________
"I live in my own mind , an`t nothing but a good time , no rain just the sunshine out here in my own mind"

Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-15-2004, 12:37 PM
-Josh-'s Avatar
-Josh- -Josh- is offline
Automotive love doctor
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,000
Thanks: 50
Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
Send a message via AIM to -Josh-
Notes taken from Psychology:

II. Memory
A) Information processing
1)Sensory Memory- 1 second
Attention
Visual Dominance
Induced Motion
2)Working Memory(short-term)
20seconds----->Decay
Capacity- 7 +/- 2 items Interference
Chunking together
3)Long Term- Depth of Processing/Alikeness
a)rehearsal
1)Maintanence- Repeating
2)Elaborative- Make a connection
b)Types
1)Episodic- You were there/rememberances
2)Semantic- Information and strategies
3)Procedure- How to....
c)Interference
1)Retroactive
Old<----New
2)Proactive
Old---->New
B)Constructive Memory
1)Leveling- "Unimportant" info left out
2)Assimilation-Fit your ideas and beliefs
3)Sharpening- "Important" info added/exaggerated
C)Dependant Memories
1)State- Conciousness at time is best way to remember later
2)Context- Situation/Place- Memories from past
3)Mood- Emotion
__________________
Self improvement is masturbation


AF User Guidelines



What is a mippie? - click
Reply With Quote
 
Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Coffee Break (Off-Topic) > Philosophizing


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:19 AM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts