B16 with Vortech?

[k_dawg]

I was wondering if anyone heard how a vortech supercharger handles or works on a B16? looking at getting one of those with and without the backcooler. Thanks a lot

[Plastic_Fork]

One of the Team Sol guys tossed one on his Del Sol VTEC. Pretty good numbers.

Okay, finally got the Vortech supercharger with powercooler dyno'd. Remember, I wanted to get baseline dyno numbers before tuning and build up. The naturally aspirated (NA) dyno numbers were 148 whp and 101 torque. Here's the link to the "Turbo on a Stick" numbers:

http://public.fotki.com/WarpedSol/vo...dyno12_03.html

This is with no fuel optimizer or any tuning what so ever. Very solid curve and no detonation and a very street driveable car. Comments appreciated, but you can file 13 rants about turbo verses this or that, where's the hondata, if you didn't do a total build up what's the point, or my daddy can beat up your daddy.

Now the fun begins. Injectors, Hondata, optimizer, ignition, and other items are in the near future. All in all, I like the plan and I'm really love'n the Vortech. Cheers all.

[E Man]

Anyone tried the vortech on a gsr mtr? How's the clearance in the 5gen civic/del sol? thnx

[boosted331]

Please, don't waste your money on a vortech. Vortech's make boost proportional to RPM's, that is, as RPM's increase, boost increases. A turbo on the other hand will make full boost much lower in your RPM range and give you much more useable horsepower and torque. You see tons of vortech's and such on big displacement cars like mustang's, camaros, vettes, etc, and it works on them because they have a lot more torque to begin with, and they have lower redlines. So If you have a car that spins to 5500 RPM's and is making 10 pounds of boost at peak, you might be making 5 pounds of boost at 3000 RPM's. If you have a motor that spins to 8500 RPM's and you are making 10 pounds of boost at peak, you may only have 3.5 pounds of boost at peak. See where I'm getting at? Go turbo.

[jcrx]

Vortech are the most money you can spend, for the least amount of gain.

uh, better yet, just re read Boosted331's post.

[F23A4Racer750IL]

Originally Posted by boosted331

Please, don't waste your money on a vortech. Vortech's make boost proportional to RPM's, that is, as RPM's increase, boost increases. A turbo on the other hand will make full boost much lower in your RPM range and give you much more useable horsepower and torque. You see tons of vortech's and such on big displacement cars like mustang's, camaros, vettes, etc, and it works on them because they have a lot more torque to begin with, and they have lower redlines. So If you have a car that spins to 5500 RPM's and is making 10 pounds of boost at peak, you might be making 5 pounds of boost at 3000 RPM's. If you have a motor that spins to 8500 RPM's and you are making 10 pounds of boost at peak, you may only have 3.5 pounds of boost at peak. See where I'm getting at? Go turbo.

vortech arent even a top of line supercharger for mustangs either.

[boosted331]

Originally Posted by F23A4Racer750IL

vortech arent even a top of line supercharger for mustangs either.

I'd rather run a vortech than a procharger, and vortech and paxton are pretty much one in the same now. Procharger has had issues with leaky cases, blowers siezing, transmissions breaking (especially in the D2R's ), and early in the 90's they had a fiasco with the P600 impellers hitting cases. Right now vortech has YS- and YSi-Trim blowers that are affordable, let you keep all accesories, and will make more power than you know what to do with, so I see no reason to go to procharger for a street car.

[F23A4Racer750IL]

kenne bell twin screws are the best for mustangs. than i was told by a freind of mine wit a mustang ATI prochargers.