time to get serious about my turbo

[DeleriousZ]

ok, the time is coming to get serious about my turbo install.. here's what i'm thinking....
T3/T04 turbo (not too sure what brand yet)
27x6.5x3" rev hard stage 2 intercooler
aem ems
greddy profec-b boost controller
bov (most likely hks sequential)
wastegate (t40 or something like that.. can't remember, too tired)
aem cdi ignition system
custom made stainless steel exhaust mani, most likely ceramic coated
440 cc injectors
new plugs (not sure how much colder i have to go)
new wire set (still looking at which brand to go with)
jg edelbrock intake mani
a'pex auto timer with built in a/f monitor
whew this hurts my head
3" downpipe into either 3" exhaust or dual 2.25" exhaust
grounding kit required???
wow is that it? there's gotta be more.. oh right
9.0:1 cr pistons(suggestions?)
new rods (suggestions?)
port/polish head (most likely done at home with buddy that's a machinist)
new cam's with turbo configuration... still no idea which to get
random technology high flow cat (to stay somewhat close to street legal grr!!)
all this crazy stuff on a 97ish (getting engine swap) b18c1 engine
i'm sure i've messed up brutally somewhere... care to help me out anyone?

[GWInquisitor14]

ya dude that sounds nice, but for the ignition, id susgest MSD, cuz they have a special set up u can get for boosted cars that u can choose how much ignition retard you want before lb of boost. I was thinking Garrett for my set up. Do you know of a way to have a 3 inch downpipe and still keep air condition, cuz Wisconsin summers are brutal, seriously.

[DeleriousZ]

i dunno man, i don't have ac to start with.. the 93 rs comes w/o ac & no power anything, but hey.. it's hella light yeah i'll look into that MSD ignition, but i'd think that aem and aem would work best together... but hey, i wanna do what's best

[whtteg]

I would ditch the AEM ems and get hondata, but that is just my . I feel that hondata is cheaper and does everything you need it to do. Also the MSD ignition would be a good move and the plug wires I would suggest ACCEL they are nice wires, I have a set and have had no problems what so ever, but I had a set of MSD wires and they did not fit right and just plain sucked, but hey maybe I got a bad set I dunno. For the exhaust manifold I see no reason to Ceramic coat the Stainless steel ? Why don't you just polish it? For the exhaust 3" would be best not dual 2.25, and lastly how much boost are you looking to run?

[DeleriousZ]

yeah i think i'll go with the MSD ignition... but i'm prettymuch stuck on the aem ems... it's quite a bit more expensive but it completely replaces your ecu.. so there's no worrying with soldering or anything... plus you can get the obd II configuration to work with it... i plan on running 15 psi... some people say i should have the block sleeved... but i have heard of a lot of people running 15 psi on stock sleeves with no problem. as for the manifold... i was planning on getting it coated so it kept the heat in better... i'm not sure if it helps with stainless steel, but if it's under $200 and helps... why not?

[Kanon]

won't 9.5 cr pistons with block guard take 15 psi? just a thought...

[DeleriousZ]

9.5? i was gunna go with 9.0 just to be safe

[GWInquisitor14]

Wait, are you saying you want the AEM cuz its got the OBD-II, but 93's have the OBD-I. Cuz the OBD-IIs have more sensors to work with, i dunno this is a guess but couldn't u do more tuning w/ an OBD-II or is it equall the same? I have the AEM tuning program on my computer cuz i thought itd be cool to download it and see what it was like. Its huge and confusing. But i have no idea to tune fuel maps though so if anyone knows that if you gimme a link or the basics thatd be cool.

[DeleriousZ]

yeah 93's have obd I but not once i swap in the b18c1 engine. and as for tuning it, i would most likely have that done when i take it to the dyno, granted i can find myself a good tuner

[DeleriousZ]

ok, is that ALL the stuff i need for a complete turbo setup? (except for like the gaskets and clamps and stuff) it'd be nice to know if i'm forgetting anything so i can price it out...

[GWInquisitor14]

Heres my list of what I gotta get
Custom Turbo Manifold
Garrett T3/T4 TURBO
Hondata
Custom Downpipe
Tial 35mm Wastegate
HKS Blowoff Valve
Custom Intercooler Piping
Oil Lines
Silicon Hoses
Intercooler
MSD Boost Timing Manager
440cc Fuel Injectors - ne1 know any good reliable brands?
AEM fuel rail
A'pexi Boost Controller

That is everything i think I will need, for about $3800
If there are any other little things i need please post

[DeleriousZ]

hey!! back off! get your own thread!! lol just kidding... those HKS bov's seem to be pretty popular eh? oh yeah... fuel rail.. fuel pump.. fuel controller... almost forgot about those... heh that coulda been interesting eh?

[GWInquisitor14]

lol sorry Ya i just copied and pasted it from excel to make it easier

[DeleriousZ]

i was just looking at the MSD ignition systems... there's the 6A, the 6AL, and the 6BTM. the 6BTM says it is the best for boosted applications.. so i'm assuming that this is the one i'd want to go with?

[racerex]

The MSD BTM just includes a boost timing master to retard your timing as boost increases, however, since both Hondata and AEM EMS include such a feature standard it really is not necesary.

BTW, I don't know about AEM, but Hondata recommends not running any aftermarket ignition at all. They feel that Honda did a good enough job designing their ignition, and they've got 600+ hp motors running stock ignition to back that up.