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All right Nizmo, here's your chance to brag about your car and see if you can convince me why you feel it is better than Hondas. What's she got and what's she capable of?
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You gotta give me until Jan 8th-15th to answer that (when the new SER is released).
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Very well. I 'll be waiting to hear what they throw into the new model, and how it will compare to the new Acura IS 2.0, which should be a fair comparison as they will be released within a couple months of each other, and they should fall within similar price ranges, although I am sure the Acura will ring in at a couple thousand more.
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Well a few K's are a lot in the that price segment. I mean a few K's between a 911 or 360 is one thing, but for cars that are only 20K and less that's a lot...
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Okay, you can squabble about small price differences, but remember you have bragged about how Civics suck and SER's rule, and I fail to see how. I don't need to see elevated hp ratings or lower pricing to see where you're coming from, I just want to hear from you why you think they're better and hear some supportive facts for your argument.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Well, what can I say? ![]() 180 hp and 180 lb-ft torque out of a 2.5 L 4 cylinder is pretty darn good, wouldn't you agree?
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#7
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Those pictures make the front end look like the new Frontier. Yuck.
Looking forward to it anyway... |
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I am hoping they will change the front end and grille.
And they probably will
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#9
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Come to think of it, I'm sure the one I saw at the L.A. car show in Jan. had a different front end that was much more Skyline-esque. How old were those pix?
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Bleh. Nice features and performance, but I would rather have a boxy original SE-R.
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look at the power of the cars, 180hp, 180 lbs/ft. for the se-r and 200hp, 142lbs/ft. for the rsx type s. they are going to be very evenly matched. the se-r will get a jump off the line cause of torque, but the rsx may make that up with horse power. the thing that is important is the weights. the type r now weighs a lil over 2500, im sure the rsx will weigh in the 2600's. the sentra se now weighs about 2670, the new se-r should be lighter because the qr25de is lighter then the older sr20de. one more point, nissan says there should be 10-20 horses blocked up in the exhaust.
over all, i think they are quite evenly matched, but personally i would go for the se-r. i love nissan, and it will most likely be cheaper. plus, its based on the b15 chasis, which already has after market parts. i really do wish that they made it a 2 door, but oh well. maybe someday theyll change it. |
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:argue:
just wanted to put these guys in here. |
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#13
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I first saw that car at the auto show and loved it, nice speed, six speed, nice interior. Looks like nissan did a nice job
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#14
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New SE-R or old SE-R, when it comes to the aftermarket
True, the new SE-R's front end makes it look like it could use a lift-kit and 4-wheel drive and make a run for the Baja 500, but aesthetics can easily be changed to one's desires these days.
What worries me more than anything is that the QR25 has a die-cast block for weight reduction (like most other modern Toyotas and Hondas), rather than the original beefy sand-casted SR20. With such thin cylinder walls, will the new block be able to put up with aftermarket turbine pressure as well as the old one has? Remember that the highly reinforced SR20 has been used primarily as a turbocharged engine in other countries, and here in the States we have been able to reproduce that boosted performance with ease. There are currently countless kits available in the aftermarket for the decade old SR20 (my favorite from Fastraxx), but now, we the consumers, will have to go back to the drawing board to hit that 300hp mark again. Can it be done safely without bulletproofing the new block? If not, then traditional turbocharging is going to cost a LOT of money. It would be quite a shame for the next SE-R to be labeled as an "all-motor" tunermobile, since Nissans have always been known for boosted greatness. Hopefully, this is not the end of the SR. It's too bad the SR16VE never saw the light of day on our shores. With 200 naturally aspirated horsepower @ 7800rpm, this screamer just barely beats the hp:liter ratio of the Honda S2000--and you know that n/a hp:liter is Honda's specialty. Refreshing to see reform, but don't forget your roots Nissan; long live the SR. |
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SR16VE from the limited N1 variation of the Pulsar VZ-R.
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