-
Grand Future Air Dried Fresh Beef Dog Food
Air Dried Dog Food | Fresh Beef

Carnivore Diet for Dogs

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Engineering/ Technical > Tires and Wheels
Register FAQ Community
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 02-10-2004, 08:37 PM
No-Townhustla No-Townhustla is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 101
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
messing up my tires fast need help

whats up car guys, I own a 1995 honda civic with 16 inch lexani romas
on 40 series tires. any way In november i lowered my car im not sure how much because i got adjustable coils (about 2 to 2 1/2 inches) the guy who owned the shop was insitsting that i buy some tokio shocks and a camber kit. He said if i didint that my stock shocks would blow and i would wear my tires out well i figured he was just trying to sell me some more shit and told him maybe some other time. ..........Well here i am 3 months later about to bitch about how my rear shocks are wasted and how fuc*in bad my toyo tires have worn the front tires are worn but only from the inside. see i know i fucked up but know i need to fix this problem fast. the coilovers i bought are some preety cheap brand shit. so what should i do what shocks should i get and will that fix the problem?
and do i need a camber kit ? if so what kind?
one more what the fuck is a camber kit seriously i here people say i need one but what does it do?
thanks sorry its so long but its been a while since i posted
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-10-2004, 11:24 PM
CivicSiRacer's Avatar
CivicSiRacer CivicSiRacer is offline
Civic Mod
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 4,085
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to CivicSiRacer Send a message via AIM to CivicSiRacer
Re: messing up my tires fast need help

When was the last time you got an alignment? Changing the height of the car or any suspension component you should always get an alignment.

Also in my opinion toe affects tire wear more than camber. I've been dropped about 2.25" for 2 years and my tires wear great. I rotate my tires every 3000-4000 miles and I have 0 toe front and rear with -2.7 camber front and -2.0 rear.
__________________
Sponsored by: KAM Racing Sports, Falken Tires, Finish First Polish, Brady's High Performance, Taggart Performance Engineering, Rotora Brakes
Autocross is: 90% driver, 5% car, & 5% CRAZY MOJO!
Autocross Help Page
Buy my Civic parts!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-11-2004, 02:20 PM
No-Townhustla No-Townhustla is offline
AF Enthusiast
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 101
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: messing up my tires fast need help

i dont think i ever got a alinment. What is toe? i think its more serious than a alinment the tires from the inner wall have really worn down almost to the metal fibers in just three months. but i will give the aliment a try thanks dog for the advice get back to me on that toe thing.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-11-2004, 02:54 PM
mycivic's Avatar
mycivic mycivic is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,122
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: messing up my tires fast need help

You should always get a camber kit when lowering your car, especially that low. And also an alignment is a must. I'm no car genius but once you change your springs, its also best if you change your shocks too.
__________________


2003 Honda Civic LX
Mods: Bone Stock
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-11-2004, 04:03 PM
eckoman_pdx's Avatar
eckoman_pdx eckoman_pdx is offline
Honda God
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 3,780
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
Send a message via AIM to eckoman_pdx Send a message via Yahoo to eckoman_pdx
Basically, any time you change shocks or springs, it messed up the car's alginment. Toe is whether the tire is pointed straight, in, or out. To make a long story short, when you mess with the suspension, it knocks the alginment (toe is part of that) completely out of whack...you will shread your ties within weeks or months. I am supirsed the shop didn't tell you to get an alginment. That's most likely what the back tire is more messed that the front. The reason the front has a lot of inner wear is you have too much negative camber(the back will too, but it sounds as if the rear toe is worse than the front toe, a bad toe setting will shread tires quicker than bad cmaber, though both will shorten tire life). This is a natural product of lowering the car. Up to a certain point of lowering, you can get away without a camber kit. After that point though, you will experince accelerated inner tire wear, and a camber kit is needed to correct the problem. 2" or over requires a camber kit. 1.75" can vary from car to car, though most I have seen benifited from a camber kit. Something lowe in drop, like the 1.25" Eibach Pro-Kit mostly won't require a camber kit. I am sorry to say, but the shop guy was correct, you should always get new shocks when you get new springs. The spring ratio of the new springs and the dampening of the shock differ, basically to kep it short, it'll blow the stock shocks due to the stiffer spring rate, shorter travel, etc. Also, you need a camber kit to properly eliminate the inner tire wear. Also, you need to get the car algined ASAP. Remember, every time you add or change something on the suspension (shocks, springs, camber kit), you need to have the car re-algined.
Reply With Quote
 
Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I need help!! Cade.Garrett Car Buying Q&A 1 06-04-2009 07:07 PM
99 Accord 4 cyl idles way too fast, need help quickly!! chubbygoatboy Accord/TSX/Accord Hybrid 4 12-15-2008 05:09 PM
"service Now Light" Please Reply Fast Need Help ab959 Eldorado 2 05-14-2007 02:23 PM
Wider tires, but need help! Suburban-97 Suburban 0 03-09-2006 08:05 AM
Messed up '96 Need help! Wick3D-PimP Off-Topic 13 06-02-2004 08:33 AM

Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Engineering/ Technical > Tires and Wheels


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:56 AM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts