all motor gsr

[aznboi4lyfe]

i wanna run low 14s-high 13s. wut parts wud i need and how much would the total cost? thanx. im driving this car daily

[lotusonwater19]

you have a gsr huh..yes so do i...ok some specifics may help, like what is your budget? do you know a very reliable shop? you can rebuild your internals, for the head port and polish, camshaft, increase the bore, stroke, whole new block perhaps, weight reduction, short shifter, intake, intake manifold, exhaust, hi-flow cat, headers, pulleys, fuel injectors (careful not to run rich), vtec controller or ecu, high performance tires, the list goes on....you're gonna hafta be a lil more specific, you want more hp? torque?

[lotusonwater19]

what do you have on it already? what do you run now?

[whtteg]

If I was biluding an allmotor GSR I would bore it to 84mm, leave the stroke stock, get 11:1 c/r pistons and some eagle rods. Now for the head I would put in oversized valves, some real agressive cams, new valves springs, retainers, and ITR lost motion assemblies. Port and polish the head and get a 4-1 header along with a highflow cat and 2.25-2.5" SS catback. Then get hondata and let a good tuner have it for about 2hrs and you will be running real good times. It would be easy to take GT mustangs and S2000's then, way easy. Also if the budget will allow it I would get a LSD too.

[aznboi4lyfe]

um..if i all this costs more than a turbo+tuning, then i think i wud go turbo..but i dunno becuz turbo makes mah engine not last that long. thats why i wanna kno wut parts to get for all motor and how much it will cost

[lotusonwater19]

for price, it will be steep if you dont know ppl that can get you the right hookups. 3grand min.

[aznboi4lyfe]

whttegg..how much do u think all that wud cost? wud it be more than a turbo with tuning? wud u suggest turbo or all motor for low 14's high 13s. and im driving this car daily...so shouldnt mah headers b 4:2:1 ? thanx

[aznboi4lyfe]

gsr is stock

[whtteg]

It depends on who you know, me I do all my work myself so it is alot cheaper than if I took it somewhere. If you haev some hook ups then it could be done for around $2500- $3500 if no hookups then $3000 at the least like lotusonwater19 said.

For the header no you should not get a 4-2-1 you need a 4-1 b/c that is going to help you in the upper rpm band where you are going to be making the hp and tq. The 4-2-1 limits upper rpm hp and tq.

[aznboi4lyfe]

hmm..the FAQs forum says that 2500$ dropped into gsr engine will onli give like 20-25 hp... (not turbo) and wit the basic i/h/e onli gives aobut 10hp? if lucky. im looking for more hp and torque gains..but cost less than a turbo kit

[aznboi4lyfe]

wud it b smart to drop a crv block or ls block into the gsr ..wit gsr head? how much wud that cost? as u can see..i am on a tite budget...i want everything under a turbo kit+tuning. if it isnt then i wud juss get a turbo

[tsugsr]

not only are you on a tight budget but you dont know how to spell, just do what whtteg is telling you, all motor would be more reliable so if it is for daily driving that is what i would suggest, just my .02

[lotusonwater19]

yeah im strongly considering a b20b block with my b18c1 vtec head myself because i have hook ups for it $3G full set up with a few things rebuilt and upgraded, but if you're on a budget that is under the cost of turbo keep saving up and look for hook ups. HP & torque = money

[aznboi4lyfe]

i just thought of something..if you are putting in a b20 block, wouldnt it be similar to increasing bore?

can u tell me an estimate on how much boring it to 84 mm would cost. or adding two more cylinders?

[pr0m3]

Originally Posted by aznboi4lyfe

i just thought of something..if you are putting in a b20 block, wouldnt it be similar to increasing bore?

can u tell me an estimate on how much boring it to 84 mm would cost. or adding two more cylinders?

First, You can't bore a B16/18... to 84mm because the cylinder walls would be to thin. Honda uses an open deck design. Therefore you would have to get your motor resleeved (AEBS, Golden Eagle, Darton $1000-1400)
Second, if you wanna go turbo and run a respectable amount of boost (8psi and up) you need to get your rods shotpeened or better yet, buy aftermarket (Crower, eagle...)
Finally, you are gonna have to replace your stock cast pistons with forged pistons (je, wiseco, arias, endyn)

That is just the block, you haven't even touched the valve train, cooling, axles (which will snap when you launch a 250whp car) the turbo itself, guages, ecu... the list goes on and on.

To do it right your looking at about 10 grand or you can be like some of my buddies and go through three motors a year blowing shit up.
Just my 2 cents.

Dude go to amazon.com, spend 15 bucks and get a book by Mike Kojima called " Honda/Acura engine performance