i do not know what to do...

[zerogt86]

heres my situation:
im 17, and i would like to get a sporty car that i can have fun with. My budget will prolly b around the 5000-6000 range. For that amount of money what would be a good drift / fun car to buy? I was looking at the various old Porsche 944's, FC RX7's, Miata, mayb even a 240sx (but i prolly woudnt get one). any sugestions as to what car i should try and get?

[Layla's Keeper]

6K can get you a very nice S14 model 240SX (not nearly as common as the S13's). However, that's also an amount of money that can get you into an Alfa Romeo Quadrfoglio roadster (beautiful Pininfarina styling coupled with the classic Alfa twin cam four), a V6 Pontiac Fiero, an N/A Z32 Nissan 300ZX, an MGB GT (shameless plug for my ride), any number of Datsun Z's or 510's, the aforementioned Porsches, Fox-body 5.0L Mustangs and early SN95 Mustangs, Lancia Scorpions, MkIII turbo Supras...

It's a long list, and there's some really cool stuff on it.

[1viadrft]

Yeah... but he want's a DRIFT car, right? With $6 grand you can get into an FC or S13 or (maybe) an S14! Personlly I would go with S13 240sx because I used to own one... I bought a 300ZX for $7,500 (price reduction!) but those do not slide so easy! Get a 240sx coupe kid! You'll love it!

[1viadrft]

Some FC's got the turbo though! 510's are fun... but can they drift? that would be kinda old-school cool! Hmmmmmmmmm (now I'm thinkin' of gettin' one!).

[zerogt86]

Hmm, american cars really arnt my thing... i used to want a 240sx, but i dunno its just not as appealing to me any more. Ive always been a fan of the FC, but if its hard to learn how to drift it then i might stay away from it. Also this would end up bein the first car i buy myslef, and also the first car i have the oppurtunity to work on. I love japonese cars, but the idea of having a porsche is really getting to me, if the 944 makes for a good drift car then i would reallly be leaning towards that. My only concern with that is how they are all old, and for a while i dont know how much work i will be able 2 do myslef (if maintanece is not that much of an issue for this car, then this wont be a problem). Ive also heard that miata's are ok for drifting (there just not very popular for it), and they are newer so its possible that maintence would be less. i would greatly apprieaciate any comments/opinions.

[Soyo]

240's lack power big time, with 6k get a turbo FC and rebuild the engine as soon as you can afford it, cuz they tend to have trouble over 100k in most cases, I don't know just my thoughts, or I guess you could get an S13 240sx(not pignose cuz they only have a single overhead cam) and either rebuild and turbo the KA24DE(my suggestion) or swap in a SR20DET(a little more played out but a good engine none the less) those would be the two options at the top of MY list, just thought I'd share 'em with you... porsche would be cool but I bet the will cost a lot to fix and get parts for, *shrug* who knows but fill us in on what you get, oh and give us pics too

[MKIISupra]

You muts take insurance into acount. I dont know what its like for like a 240SX, but a young male in a sports car is alought of $. A MKII Supra like mine has a great insureance price considering its a sports car. The reason it has a great rate, is because it isnt that old to scare insurance people off, and it isnt all that fast compared to even regular cars today. But it has a LSD stock (most cars had them) and it is not much heavier than a S13 when it has a 2.8L I6!!! Then you can bolt 7MGE heads right onto it, they use the same block, the only differance would be the stroke (torque) but it is about 400ILBS lighter than MKIIIs and MK4s.
Just go with what you can afford, but will be a good car all around, for economy and performance when you need it.

[Bunta]

S14's have very forgettable styling.

Buy the nicest '91 BMW 325is you can find.

[1viadrft]

umm...... how do I get a cool AVATAR like you guys-?

[Soyo]

screw a supra, those things are so heavy, don't try to tell me its as light as an S13 cuz its like 500 pounds heavier, maybe more, where do you get your info? and if you are worried about insurance get a non-turbo and turbo it, then you will be paying for a non-turbo car on insurance and it will be cheap, but no sports car is gonna be very cheap on insurance, so you really can't say get the one with the best insurance, they all suck in that category... anyways a non-turbo S13 240sx or non-turbo FC RX-7 will be between $90-$100 a month for liability(mine is $94 a month), probably double that for full coverage.

honestly I say get a miata, one with a hard convertable top(I think they have those) they are nice cars, pretty good for drifting and they will be a little easier on insurance probably and have pretty good potential. but in the end its all up to what you like the best, don't let someone else choose for you.

[zerogt86]

i was just wondering what exactly makes the FC a bad car for beginers? is it really that hard to slide? Also ive read that people rebuild their engines in their FC's and FD's, how much does this cost and where can you get it done? Also about the 240sx, what has to be done (if any thing) to take the KA24DE and put a turbo in it? If i got a 240, id rather hav a KA24DET then an SR20DET....

[Soyo]

for the KA you need to rebuild and make it more low compression, which your probably looking between $1,700-$2,200 for parts and labor, to the best of my knowledge anyway.

on the other hand I think rx-7's are great beginner cars, although I'd say every kid should own a slow automatic car before anything else, just to learn how to drive, thats just my opinion though

[7th_skyline]

MKIISupra Is onto a good thing with the MK2 supra.
They ARE about the same weight as an S13, you can swap in a 5MGE or 7MGE or even a 7MGTE for decent beginners power, not to mention that most have a factory LSD (manuals anyway) and if you get a decent one they have a lot of nice stuff (power windows, mirrors, steering, air con etc).
My only major qualm is that they are fairly vague in terms of steering feel, but nevertheless as long as the shocks, springs, bushes, and LSD are in decent condition they're a great handling,very chuckable, very predictable thing to drive.
The 5M-E SOHC motor is gutless though, so grab a 7MGE from a MK3 supra or cressida.

[89Turbo944]

FC for life

Good car but stay away from the turbos unless you have more money. The NA cars are very reliable.

If you get anyother car i would sugest that you upgrade the oil pump. I have seen a few cars kill engines during extended drift setions from oil starvation. And it will also prevent other wear int the engine.

[MKIISupra]

Yes, the MKII supra is a little tough on handling, because it has the strut infront and multi link in the rear, so that results in pretty tough handling, but lowing springs can fix that a little. I am sorry I didnt understand what you 7th skyline. If you meant to say what I think you did, the 5M-E I believe only in the 1982 celica supras, then all of the MKIs before it. But from 1982 and beyon they got the 5MGE. The 5MGE has DOHCs, but still only 2 valves per cylinder. I believe that in 1983 it made around like 140HP, 1984s and 1985s make 161HP. The 5MGE is same basic engine as the 7MGE. So you can put 7MGE or 7MGTE heads on it without any fabrication. But then you have to change the ECU. Now here are the specifications on 3 cars, a 1983 Toyota MKII Supra, 1989 Nissan 240SX, and a 1989 Mazda RX-7 turbo. Look at the weights, and see which is lightest. also, the HP that they put up is incorect that is a 1983 and it makes like 140HP not even 85s made 170HP.

RX-7 FC: http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio.../car/?car=9284

240SX S13: http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...car/?car=26796

Celica supra MKII: http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...car/?car=37312

Keep in mind that the Supra is pretty fancy (even MKIIs) so they have alought of stuff in them that you can take out to weight reduce. Also Soyo the reason I know this is because I own a 1985 Toyota Supra MKII. I have pics of it if you would like to see them, just IM me at IATEPCT. But for the main subject, zerogt86 any of these cars and many more would work for what you are talking about.