srt-4vsS2000vs350z

[got v-tec?]

pick who would win 1/4 then post who would come in 2nd and 3rd.

[89Turbo944]

1ST:350Z
2nd SRT-4
3RD S2000

[got v-tec?]

really? thats crazy i thought it would go 1s2000 2srt-4 3350z
ive only seen the 350run at my track and it didnt seem that quick he ran 15.3 with a good launch.

[89Turbo944]

the administrater of the site has done 13.69 in his stock 350
thats faster than a SRT-4
and the S2000 isnt really that fast, to hard to launch

[got v-tec?]

Originally Posted by 89Turbo944

the administrater of the site has done 13.69 in his stock 350
thats faster than a SRT-4
and the S2000 isnt really that fast, to hard to launch

if heard its hard to launch before, why is that? is just cuz of the v-tec?
cause my honda w/gsr engine is hard to launch like if i launch at 7000 right when its start to cetch the road v-tec kicks and then it will just keep burning out. but i fixed that by getting slicks now i just get a hard launch and improved my 330 times from 2.3 to 2.1
but ya i deffinatley gonna get the 350z or s2000 for my next ride.
im leaning twards the s2000. but launching is a concern.
if i got the s2000 id nos it and the 350z id turbo it.

[89Turbo944]

Well the S2000 is hard to launch cause it has very little tourque. And you have to rev it so high to get a good launch. But i have seen a few quick ones before.

[Neutrino]

well in the real world those cars are close enough that will come down to the drivers

although i can see the 350Z getting the most consistent times being RWD with a nice powerband


with perfect identical drivers....i think the 350Z should edge out an srt4 folowed by the s2000

another thing to mention is that the srt4 will be by far the cheapest and easiest to modify for power gains

[89Turbo944]

The SRT-4 is deffinetly the cheaper f the bunch. It will offer the cheapest tunability, but reliability may suffer. And quality is not as high as the other cars. But it is a great little car.

[Roscoe86]

Not to flame anybody or jump down anybody's throat, not wanting to cause hostility, but i just can't stand how people are always questioning the SRT-4's reliability. Oooo, it's a domestic, even worse, it's a Dodge, it's gonna fall apart! Come on people. First off, the entire engine in that car is built rock solid. It can hold 600hp no problem. I'd even go so far as to say 700-800. Not that anybody needs that much horsepower unless it's being made strictly a drag car, but the ability is there if you want it. Not only is the engine solid, the transmission is built like a rock as well. Granted, a clutch upgrade will be needed after you add a certain amount of horsepower, but isn't that the case with every car, even the 350Z? Some people say the interior is cheap, that it sucks cause it has no rear power windows. Oh well, that sucks if you're in the back seat, but most people that buy the car will most likely be driving it, not sitting in the back seat. And the interior is plenty good for my tastes. I don't scrutinize the interior. OOOO! There's plastic in here! Big deal. If it holds me in good and everything works, and looks halfway decent, then i'm a happy camper.

The most important thing about this car is that if something DOES go wrong, remember, it's under warranty. All of the Mopar performance parts are covered by the warranty. And seeing as how the parts available for it are top notch, as will the ones coming soon, what more could you ask for? An outstanding, fast as hell little car that spanks guys with more expensive cars and makes people who spent 10-20 grand in performance parts go home crying cause they just got beat by a Neon, whose every performance part is covered by a full factory warranty. That's nice to know.

Okay, i'm done ranting. BTW, although this poll is stupid cause it compares two rwd cars against one fwd car, i believe this would be the outcome:

350Z by the hair of it's chinny-chin chin over the SRT-4, the S2000 trying it's best to keep up in third.

[inzanesrt4]

I believe I can say with some certainly on this subject. I have raced all of these vehicles. Its is a drivers race between 350z and SRT-4. I have beaten two but they drove it like a civic. 1 350 who I race from time to time to put on show for watchers is driven by a guy I consider an excellent driver he launch against me better then any EVO or STI has every match with him ends the same way him winning by half car. Now the s2000 I dont car what year has no chance against either my neighbor owns one( which he will have fast after he gets taxes he plans on throwing all of it at car$4,000) Any ways I even launch from second so not to put were and tear on my motor mounts and beat him. But he looks good syling down road. I believe s2000 to be disappointment it was supposed to be faster then VW corrado that was ripping up street racing scenes with vr6 engine.

[89Turbo944]

You can talk to me about reliability in a few years. After all the engine recalls and other things are worked out. Then maby we will see if it is reliable. The 2.4 in the PT Cruser(same engine ) has had many problems. So im not to enthusiastic about those.

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by 89Turbo944

You can talk to me about reliability in a few years. After all the engine recalls and other things are worked out. Then maby we will see if it is reliable. The 2.4 in the PT Cruser(same engine ) has had many problems. So im not to enthusiastic about those.

You need to see this engine. They did an amazing job. i would be very very surprised if it would prove to be unreliable.

check this link it will give you a very good picture

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/pr...0scc_projneon/

[Scatch!]

Originally Posted by 89Turbo944

You can talk to me about reliability in a few years. After all the engine recalls and other things are worked out. Then maby we will see if it is reliable. The 2.4 in the PT Cruser(same engine ) has had many problems. So im not to enthusiastic about those.

??? You don't know what you're talking about. First, the NA 2.4L is not the same engine, at least not until the '04s come out, and only then it will have the same castings and not much else. Second the PT has been extremely problem-free, which is something 350Z owners can not say about their cars.

[89Turbo944]

As a matter of fact i happen to know exactly waht im talking about. The PT Cruser with the 2.4 liter turvocharged 4 cylinder engine contains the EXACT same engine as the SRT-4. The only difference is an additional 10 hp from a better flowing filter, and exhaust.

As for problems. The first batch of Turbo PT Crusers had many many problems. I know my friends mother drives one. And its a pile. I hope that they have worked all the bugs out for the SRT-4 but you can not call an brand new car with a brnad new engine reliable. Give it a few years and tell me its reliable.

Yes i have seen 850whp SRT-4's. But the only part that is OEM in the engine is maby the valve cover and block.

And for 350Z, would you please elaborate on the problems we have had with our cars. So far i know of a window seal problem, tranny problem, and a few other not very important recalls. For an engine that is brand new with that few problems it good. Anyway, we are not discussing weather the car has reliability issues, its which is faster, and the 350Z is faster in a straight line. Unless you know of SRT-4's runnig low 13's COMPLETLY STOCK the there is no debate.

[Scatch!]

Originally Posted by 89Turbo944

As a matter of fact i happen to know exactly waht im talking about. The PT Cruser with the 2.4 liter turvocharged 4 cylinder engine contains the EXACT same engine as the SRT-4. The only difference is an additional 10 hp from a better flowing filter, and exhaust.

I see. You said nothing about the turbo PT. Two different animals.

As for problems. The first batch of Turbo PT Crusers had many many problems. I know my friends mother drives one. And its a pile. I hope that they have worked all the bugs out for the SRT-4 but you can not call an brand new car with a brnad new engine reliable. Give it a few years and tell me its reliable.

Anyway, there was (and maybe still is?) a cooling issue with the PT turbo, but that has nothing to do with the engine. ...Even if it causes an engine problem, it's another issue.

Yes i have seen 850whp SRT-4's. But the only part that is OEM in the engine is maby the valve cover and block.

Show me the company that makes an aftermarket head for the SRT-4. Hell, show me ANY engine that can take an additional 600hp on stock internals.

And for 350Z, would you please elaborate on the problems we have had with our cars. So far i know of a window seal problem, tranny problem, and a few other not very important recalls. For an engine that is brand new with that few problems it good.

Hmm, I see. So while you've had all those problems with your 350Z, it's OK. But when someone has a couple problems with a PT turbo, it's a pile.

Anyway, I guess you haven't heard about the tire wear problems (factory misaligned), weak paint, TONS and TONS of tranny problems (OK, you heard about that ), differential problems, suspension noises, cheap interior bits breaking, the window problems (you heard about that too)

I'm not knocking the 350Z, I'm just saying it's got problems too.

Anyway, we are not discussing weather the car has reliability issues, its which is faster, and the 350Z is faster in a straight line. Unless you know of SRT-4's runnig low 13's COMPLETLY STOCK the there is no debate.

Heh. You're the one who started on the reliability crap. I just called you on it. Besides, I don't doubt that a 350Z could whip a stock SRT-4's ass. It damn well should, considering it's mission as a car.