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best engine build for boost
looking to get an engine and i am boosting it.....i want to know which one will give the best gains assuming each one is built to handle boost
B18C1 LS/VTEC with B18C1 head B20 CRVTEC with B18C1 head
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The name's Adrian 1990 Civic HB Si - 265.7whp/223tq @9.2psi. Tuned on NepTune by J.Mills 1991 Civic Sedan DX - 296.3whp/230tq @1bar. Tuned on NepTune by J.Mills 1991 Civic Sedan DX - 185.8whp/139tq. Tuned on NepTune by J.Mills 2006 G35 Coupe 6MT - Stock 2011 CR-Z - Stock |
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anyone?? just need a quick answer
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The name's Adrian 1990 Civic HB Si - 265.7whp/223tq @9.2psi. Tuned on NepTune by J.Mills 1991 Civic Sedan DX - 296.3whp/230tq @1bar. Tuned on NepTune by J.Mills 1991 Civic Sedan DX - 185.8whp/139tq. Tuned on NepTune by J.Mills 2006 G35 Coupe 6MT - Stock 2011 CR-Z - Stock |
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well i wouldnt recommend boosting with a c1 ...or anything with a c1 head...Too high of compression for boosting unless u have the money to get forged pistons and sleeves( THEN u could prolly run a good amount of boost...i know someone with arias forged 10:1 comp pistons and sleeves...and hes running 21 psi)...but thats alot of money. Id just go b18b and while the block is out replace all the piston rings and seals...get some APR studs and eagle H rods...and ur prolly safe to run 8-10 psi daily driven....14psi if u wanna push it...
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Go LS if you don't plan on keeping the car or at least keeping the car running for more than 2 years.
But if your like me, I'm going with a b18c1 and then turbo later on because I'm probably not going to buy a new car for another 3-4+ years. Pretty much if your going to have a mass amount of funds in the next few years, go with the b18c1(or go with this engine if you plan to have the money later) Otherwise go with the LS, it's a LOT cheaper to turbo. |
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Re: best engine build for boost
i actually plan to build up the engine and keep it till it falls apart....every 4 months getting it retuned to make sure everything is runnin straight....car is mainly going to be used in auto-x and a weekend cruiser.....and the whole car is gonna be in the shop for the next year or so being put together.....that way it'll be done right.....
but with proper internals and what not.....which set-up would be best?
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The name's Adrian 1990 Civic HB Si - 265.7whp/223tq @9.2psi. Tuned on NepTune by J.Mills 1991 Civic Sedan DX - 296.3whp/230tq @1bar. Tuned on NepTune by J.Mills 1991 Civic Sedan DX - 185.8whp/139tq. Tuned on NepTune by J.Mills 2006 G35 Coupe 6MT - Stock 2011 CR-Z - Stock |
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Re: best engine build for boost
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from the 4 ur interested in boosting i suggest goin with the crv motor. its simple and very strong. if u want to be cheap u can go with an ls turbo. they are really strong as well and if u put after market pistons and rods in it they can hold around 20 psi safely. just go with a b16 tranny or somethin and do some head work such as porting it and a valve job and itll be great for the money. |
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Re: best engine build for boost
matter of fact i doing a b20 with type r head myself with turbo....its at golden eagle right now getting arias pistons 8.5-1 and bored 20 over with golden eagle sleeving...let me know how yours goes i get pics on her soon as motor gets back to my house
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Re: best engine build for boost
lol b20 can be a daily driver to and all the other things you said....any b series part will bult on a b series motor....maybe you should master more in a b20 before you say anything else...lol
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Re: best engine build for boost
I hear that the b20 with a b16 is a good combo, or maybe h23/h22 combo?
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Re: best engine build for boost
so if i was going to go with the CRVtec set up....what would be a good/best head and tranny?
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The name's Adrian 1990 Civic HB Si - 265.7whp/223tq @9.2psi. Tuned on NepTune by J.Mills 1991 Civic Sedan DX - 296.3whp/230tq @1bar. Tuned on NepTune by J.Mills 1991 Civic Sedan DX - 185.8whp/139tq. Tuned on NepTune by J.Mills 2006 G35 Coupe 6MT - Stock 2011 CR-Z - Stock |
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Re: best engine build for boost
A good head for the money would be a b16 head for the b20. I think getting the type R head is a bit too expensive. And a good tranny would be something with long gears to aid the turbo in spooling up real good.
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Re: best engine build for boost
so my best bet would probably be a b18c1 head and ls tranny??
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The name's Adrian 1990 Civic HB Si - 265.7whp/223tq @9.2psi. Tuned on NepTune by J.Mills 1991 Civic Sedan DX - 296.3whp/230tq @1bar. Tuned on NepTune by J.Mills 1991 Civic Sedan DX - 185.8whp/139tq. Tuned on NepTune by J.Mills 2006 G35 Coupe 6MT - Stock 2011 CR-Z - Stock |
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Re: best engine build for boost
well, if you have a good amount of cash, i would do the crvtec resleeve it, forged internals.. that
+turbo = good setup. if you want cheap than deff. go with stock ls turbo on 10-12 psi. |
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But anyways, I never said that a b20 couldn't be a daily driver, I just said that in my opinion a b18c1 can be made into a daily driver or any of the other things I mentioned a lot easier than a b20 becuase of the head swap on a b20. Just in my opinion, I would go with an engine that can get good power and have the ability to rev high without having to do as many mods to it. Its just that most people who go with a b20 swap are looking for some major power, and in auto-x you don't need 300+hp(but it would be nice ) Also it can be confusing to some people without laying it out on a silver platter to them that when you search for parts, make sure you get the right stuff to work with the head for your ecu, fuel, etc. and then a totally different look-up for new pistons,rods, etc. for the b20 block, and then maybe even another look-up for whatever tranny your using.
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