whats a good car to start off with

[moeskyline]

im getting a car an dont know what to get.......any body have suggestions on whats a good car to start off with that aint exspensive?

[DkShadow]

Whats your budget?

[DkShadow]

Ill add onto my last post...

A cheap car to start off with and has lots of potential would be a 5.0 Mustang. Parts are cheap, the car is cheap. The aftermarket is huge for that car.

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by DkShadow

Ill add onto my last post...

A cheap car to start off with and has lots of potential would be a 5.0 Mustang. Parts are cheap, the car is cheap. The aftermarket is huge for that car.

or you could just get something with an ls1...and you'll never need to mod it since you will win every race by default

[-The Stig-]

Please read the thread at the top of this forum...

You'll only get biased opinions which will then turn this innocent question of yours into a flame war of who says what's better.

So please, just read this... and decide on your own. Don't ask a bunch of internet geeks what they think. We'll just tell you to get a Yugo.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=113463

[GTStang]

Originally Posted by Neutrino

or you could just get something with an ls1...and you'll never need to mod it since you will win every race by default

Oh so true! Read sig to know the facts envious non-chevy drivers don't want you to know about.

[moeskyline]

what is a ls1 and what years of the prelude have v-tec in them?

[-The Stig-]

Originally Posted by moeskyline

what is a ls1 and what years of the prelude have v-tec in them?

LS1 is the motor that comes in '03 Mustang Cobras. It's a new motor design that was originally devoloped back in 1958, but due to its complication it wasn't brought back to the development table till 1995. Then for the next eight years it was designed to be unstoppable.

When Duesenberg was finally ready to release the new Mustang Cobra for the 2003 year, they thought this motor was totally kewl. Except they were out staged by new Honda Odessey.

So what did Peugeot do? Nobody knows?

Chrysler then slapped on a Turbo system onto the LS1 and called it a day and put it into the Lincoln family sedan.


That my friend is the complete history of the LS1. And how it cured world hunger and stopped Hitler from taking over Canada.

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by RedNeck383

LS1 is the motor that comes in '03 Mustang Cobras. It's a new motor design that was originally devoloped back in 1958, but due to its complication it wasn't brought back to the development table till 1995. Then for the next eight years it was designed to be unstoppable.

When Duesenberg was finally ready to release the new Mustang Cobra for the 2003 year, they thought this motor was totally kewl. Except they were out staged by new Honda Odessey.

So what did Peugeot do? Nobody knows?

Chrysler then slapped on a Turbo system onto the LS1 and called it a day and put it into the Lincoln family sedan.


That my friend is the complete history of the LS1. And how it cured world hunger and stopped Hitler from taking over Canada.

Well to be acurate the ls1 was developed in 1957 (although 1958 is a common misconception due to faulty carbon dating). And it was developed by Dr. Wankel

peugeout did develop the suboverhead roller cam for it - basically another name for vtec. this decreased its torque significantly but it made it rev faster

and that was not a chrysler turbo its was a mistsubishi basically the same as in the evo which is why the ls1 cars handle so well

no us market prelude comes with the ls1 but you can order a jdm ls1 swap...just make sure it has the peugeout roller cam which is one of the best vtec varriants

[-The Stig-]

Good thing the LS1 was around in 1776... to fight off Hitler and his evil alien army and keep the free world of Canada safe!

[2000LS1Z28]

Wow there sure are alot of Ls1 hating stang owners here. It must be due to the win loss ratio Anyways author i'd advise you to buy a 91 Accord for your first car. Contrary to popular belief new drivers are bound to make mistakes, and hit something (Fender benders generally). The 91 Accord gets good fuel mileage, and is actually rated extremely well in auto accidents. When your ready to smoke the stangs buy an LS1 powered F Body. They won't admit it, but we dyno higher then even their beloved Mach 1

[DkShadow]

Originally Posted by 2000LS1Z28

Wow there sure are alot of Ls1 hating stang owners here. It must be due to the win loss ratio Anyways author i'd advise you to buy a 91 Accord for your first car. Contrary to popular belief new drivers are bound to make mistakes, and hit something (Fender benders generally). The 91 Accord gets good fuel mileage, and is actually rated extremely well in auto accidents. When your ready to smoke the stangs buy an LS1 powered F Body. They won't admit it, but we dyno higher then even their beloved Mach 1

Your lack of knowledge is ruining this thread






Now onto learning how the LS1 works...

The Ls1 is a great engine. During its early development, the Honda engineers/techs started working on the internals of the LS1. Adding Variable Valve Timing and a new gadget called Electronic Lift Control (Usually referred to as suboverhead roller cam like Neutrino pointed out) to variate between the cams the LS1 have. The LS1 is a DOHC engine and is very powerful with its 48 valves. Its completely modular and can be interchanged with other parts from other manufacturors. Its basically a Leggo motor. Look at how well the 03 Cobras do at the track. With its double independant front wishbone suspension and a live rear axle that interchanges to IRS, its unstoppable by any other car in autocross, save for another LS1 powered car but most dont contain the performance suspension the Cobra does.
I hope my share of knowledge, and of the others who participated in this thread, has helped to guide you to the right decision. .

[Cbass]

Originally Posted by RedNeck383

That my friend is the complete history of the LS1. And how it cured world hunger and stopped Hitler from taking over Canada.

Umm, it didn't stop Hitler from taking over Canada, and I'd appreciate it if you didn't spread such libel about the Fuhrer of Canada.

[2000LS1Z28]

The Ls1 is a great engine. During its early development, the Honda engineers/techs started working on the internals of the LS1. Adding Variable Valve Timing and a new gadget called Electronic Lift Control (Usually referred to as suboverhead roller cam like Neutrino pointed out) to variate between the cams the LS1 have. The LS1 is a DOHC engine and is very powerful with its 48 valves. Its completely modular and can be interchanged with other parts from other manufacturors. Its basically a Leggo motor. Look at how well the 03 Cobras do at the track. With its double independant front wishbone suspension and a live rear axle that interchanges to IRS, its unstoppable by any other car in autocross, save for another LS1 powered car but most dont contain the performance suspension the Cobra does.
I hope my share of knowledge, and of the others who participated in this thread, has helped to guide you to the right decision.

WTF are you talking about????!!!!! I hope you're talking about variable valve timing and lift control. LS1's have 48 valves, nope wrong. I'm only guessing that you are being sarcastic towards the technology invested in the LS1 engine. Even so you'd miss the mark, cause the engine is probably more complex then the modular engine you love soo much.
Here is a link to information on the engine: http://www.idavette.net/hib/ls1c.html

[fatninja19]

Damn.. I've been searching for this type of info for SOOOO long. Thank goodness you guys are doing such a good job telling the story.

Makes me sad that I passed up a LS1 and got a 5.0 Foxbody