Automatic to Manual...

[BadAzz240]

I have a 97' TA, right now it is an auto. but honestly I would rather have a 6 speed. Has anyone here done this or know of a website that may have some instructions. I know I would need the tranny, pedal assembly, master and slave cylinder, the ECU from a 97 6 spd, clutch and flywheel, all the lines, the 6 speed center console, shifter. Any help on actually doing the swap or if it is even possible would be great thanks.

[BlkCamaroSS]

I know it's possible. I've never done it or know of anyone that has done it, but I know it's possible. It'll just take some labor and time...

[blues02TA]

Wow, sounds like you have a big job ahead of you dude. Good luck; I hope you can find the information you need. It'll be worth the work in the end; mine's a 6-speed and it's so much fun!

[mikeemon]

You would be best off selling the one you have and buy one with the stick.

[89birdowner]

i agree with mikeemon

[_99_Formula]

dude, if your pretty mechanically inclined, then you can do it yourself. I did it in my car, and it worked out fine

[84TrAnSaM]

pain in the ass

[SONIC1050fps]

Hey,
that 3 pedal makes a muscle /sports car is bull.. total bull and i used to think that way..

throw in a stall converter(Torque converter).. 3200 Stall, gears, transgo shiftkit and if alot of racing is done do the valve body

.. already Auto's accountfor 70% of all 1/4 mile wins.. and with the stall on a roll.. you'll be smiling.. i don't know but when win i not bored

that 70 % account is without the opotional equipment.. remeber if a human thinks he can shift faster than a computer..lol'' that will be the day

the 4l60e is a great auto

also you don't need as high of gears since the auto's planetarty ratios are very good...

and rember this.. this is the M6 killer you'll drop .7-.75 without adding 1 hp to the engine.. see if a M6 can do that

don't waste your money and effort.. get a Midwest TC,, a trango shitfkit.. and buy a used 3.42 from all the 6 speeds that NEED 4:10s.
trust e i walked a 03 cobra.. with minor bolt ons and the afformentioned tranny mods.. by 6 cars to 120

good luck

[BlkCamaroSS]

I'm willing to bet that if you gave me the same amount of money that you put into your stall, gears, and tires, that I could beat you down the 1/4 mile. That's alot of dough there...

[SONIC1050fps]

I ran 13.12 stock before the stall..399 transgo 104 dollars
some and nitto relacements.. wich is maintenance 160 each.. your bilstien oes help you 1/4 time..it a track suspension.. so i doubt youcould run 10 13.1x's .. sorry pall.. your wrong.. test have shown 70% of the Auto's win becauseof consistency

no offense.. you car is swet.. but you need o be educated on the 4l60e

even so.. money is not a factor.. you'd need 80 RWhp to do it.. and youcan't buy that for what i paid

Auto's are superior..

perid. GM high prformance mags says 70 % and they are he final word

[SONIC1050fps]

Oh but a tranny swap isless expensive.. lol

your !le is cool.. but i post the same number in skid and slalom.. remember it an 01after pontiac made the suspeension cange .. that diffeent hanthe SS also i was lucky enough to dyno 320.1 with auto bone stock at 700 miles.. so don't bit off more than you can chew.. your car is great and i'm sure you have fun withthe 6 speed.. but.. i w wn.. period.. and i have fun doing that.. anyway my Ws6 is running mid to low 10's a differen league than your car



all pro draggers run auto's.. why?

[SONIC1050fps]

And b4 you go to Nos any kit a dry Ls1 is about 580 plus safety equipment.. and then you still need traction IE Nittos

i work on airforce Jet engines carsare a piece of cake

so no labor.. how abot you

so yo wouldn't beat me.. even stock i seriously doubt it.. maybe yu best would approach .35 of my consistant

6 speed are a Macho thing.. you thinkthey are needed so theirfore you buy it..

sory youcan't do a thing to your tranny to make.75 with out adding hp.. and thats a fact



Nice try though
Ps excuse my spellling.i'm almost asleep



but honestly you have a nicw =ce car.. ..oh one last thing.. Ws6 make more Hp on the roll than a SS.. you pick up laminar airlow routed circutous ( which is heated.. the WS6 rout stright in froma the frontal cross section.. and has notime to get heated..

so again.. advantage Ws6

goodnight

[BlkCamaroSS]

First, my car will never have nitrous on it.

Second, why do I doubt all of this? Because you can't write simple english. Credit is earned by one being able to decipher another's post, which you make almost impossible from the start.

As for your 10's, nobody is gonna believe that until you do the norm, post your slips, pics, etc. Internet racing is for teens. As for the airflow in the hoodscoops, that is bs until you're over 100 anyway. It has no effect on the car except for looks until then.

Where is this magical 80 rwhp you're talking about? I find this comical.

And yes n00b, most dragracers do run autos because of consistency, not because they are faster than manuals. Ask anyone, most manuals of respective cars will get through the 1/4 mile quicker than their auto counterparts. It's a generally accepted fact that late model LS1 F-bodies with M6's clock in about 13.5 in the quarter, while the A4's clock in about 13.8. In fact, you'd be the first that I know of to say otherwise.

You know what? I design buildings, cars are a piece of cake. What did that have to do with anything? Nothing.

http://www.lmperformance.com/1024/3.html
$125 plus shipping, but I'll give you 104 and the benefit of the doubt. This was a two minute search. You may know someone and have a deal I don't know about.

http://www.racenet.net/drivetrn/precision-vigilante.php
Unless you got some craptacular stall, it should mirror some of Vigilante's prices. I don't believe your stall price.

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...odeIndex=40135
Nitto 555R's, at the original size, 275/40ZR17's. You're dead on there, no arguement.

http://www.stealthperf.com/cgi-bin/store/64045.html
Also, you talked about gears, yet listed no pricing. Those are for 4.10's. That's more money I'd have to play with.

Also, don't forget installation for all of those parts, nothing is free, and doing some of those installations yourself is more of an undertaking than some are able to perform.

Point is, I don't care what you say about your auto WS6. I've raced them, I've beat them, and been beaten. It has nothing to do with the trans, but the drivers...

Oh yeah, welcome n00b, you're making friends fast...

[DVS LT1]

Originally Posted by BadAzz240

I have a 97' TA, right now it is an auto. but honestly I would rather have a 6 speed. Has anyone here done this or know of a website that may have some instructions. I know I would need the tranny, pedal assembly, master and slave cylinder, the ECU from a 97 6 spd, clutch and flywheel, all the lines, the 6 speed center console, shifter. Any help on actually doing the swap or if it is even possible would be great thanks.

Do you really like your car bros? I mean, have you had it for a while and are you very attached to it?? Cause if not, I'd do what the other boys said and flip it for a stickshift.

Or....

Just buy another with a 6-speed - and I'm not being smart. I plan to own an LS1 some day (realistically within the next 5 years) and it will be an M6. By then my LT1-auto Z28 should be on its way to being a full-blown drag monster, and I'll be cruisin "heads up" in the C5. Its all a matter of how bad you want it/how much you into it.

Personally I think you've got the best looking T/A styling ever made. I'd keep her if I were you - as is or modified if must be. I've only had my car for two summers and I could never sell her - ever.

As far as the 4L60E goes, the hourglass is ticking the minute you start adding horsepower. The only reason I haven't built a stroker motor already is because I cannot afford a rebuilt 700R4 tranny to go along with it (or a 12-bolt Moser for that matter).

[SONIC1050fps]

BLACK ss READ YOUR PM I DID'T WAN'T TO EMBARRASS YOU IN FRONT OF YOU BUDDIES.

BUT MIDWEST FROM HPA HAD A BLOW OUT SALE

AND SINCE 1 RESTALL AND ONE RE STR IS ALLOWED.. I TOOK IT AND NEVER LOOKED BACK
MIDWEST IS NOT CRAPOLA
THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR 15 YEARS

SO

ANYWAY I ADDRESSED YOUR DOUBTS
SORRY THAT I DIDN'T NOTICE YOU HAVE AN 01

IT 'S COOL

STILL YOUR WRONG ABOUT EVERYTING ELSE
( BUT YOU ATTACK MY SPELLING..LOL..TOO BAD YOU CAN NOT ATTCK MY FACTS)



OH FORGOT TO MENTION I NOW USE A MOSER REAR

ITS COOL YOU DEFENDING YOUR KIND BUT ALLOW ME TO REITERATE.. WHEN gm HIGH PERORMANCE SAYS 70 % OF AUTO WILL WIN.. THEN I BELEIVE THEM

ESPECIALLY SINCE I RAN A 13.12

YOU HAVE 1 le.. WITCH IS NOT A 1lE NOT OFFERED IN 01.. ITS A bILSTIEN SUSPENSION OFFERED BY SLP



I' AM A JET MECHANIC FOOL

AND I DO MY OWN LABOR AFTER BORROWING A FRIENDS LIFT

OH I DIDN'T COME HERE TO MAKE FRIENDS ..ONLY TO TELL THE TRUTH PUNK

THE AUTHOR SHOULD STALL, TRANSGO AND GEAR HIS CAR AROUND THE TIME HE NEEDS TIRES..

BY THE WAY..

.. MY 3.73'S WERE AROUND FROM MY 6 SPEED Z28 I HAD IN 98
AND .75 TIME IS ONLY OVER COME BY 80 RWHP YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS FOR EVER TENTH 10 HP

AND NOT RAM AIR BUT POSISTIVE PRESSURE OCCURES LONG BEFORE 1O0 TRY 60-70

RAM AIR DOESN'T TAKE EFFECT UNTILL THE 650MPH ZONE.. SMART ASS

BY THE WAY.. I'F IT DOES'T LIST MY CARS.. I OWN A 04 iNFININITY fx45, 04 EVOLUTION
03 Z06, 01 WS6, 95 5.0GT_S..AND A 95 ZR1
I DO COME FROM A WELTO DO FAMILY.. BUT DON'T FLUANT IT.. I BUY ALMOST ALL AMERICAN


WHAT DO YOU HAVE BLACK ss. THE ss AND WHAT? ONE pos DAILY.. OR IS THE ss IT YOUNG MAN