Suicide?

[imprtchk21]

Ive never understood it. and u know what really sucks about it is that u never know why. so u can never have closure. i knew this girl back in high school, always happy, smiling, laughing, great boyfriend, partied. all around high school girl then one day when they were in the process of moving the movers found her dead in the upstairs closet. i geuss we thought she was happy. does anyone else ever think of the reasons and does anyone have any other stories?

[jon@af]

Originally Posted by imprtchk21

Ive never understood it. and u know what really sucks about it is that u never know why. so u can never have closure. i knew this girl back in high school, always happy, smiling, laughing, great boyfriend, partied. all around high school girl then one day when they were in the process of moving the movers found her dead in the upstairs closet. i geuss we thought she was happy. does anyone else ever think of the reasons and does anyone have any other stories?

I think suicide is often a trajedy that can be prevented if people would look deeper than just what they see on the outside. As odd as that sounds, if you think about it, it makes sense; what it means is when you are talking with a person, watch them, observe their body language and ask yourself if they really seem like they are happy or if they are doing things because other people expect it of them. Another factor that some people dont add in is the home life of a person. A person can be a great socialite at school and outside the home, but who is to say what goes on behind the walls and confines of his or her own home. I actually wrote a short story about this topic and put it in on the second to last page of the poetry and writing thread in this forum. But yes, that's my view and agree that it's a big let down to the friends of those who do it and a disappointment to family members. If you do by chance know of someone who is depressed and has mentioned suicide, seek help for them if you care about them.

[2strokebloke]

When somebody commits suicide alot of people say things like "they had everything going for them" And if you're one of the few who actually knows why they commited suicide, then you also know that it was probably a really stupid reason, such as school or work.
Of course it's different when you get to older people, who might kill themselves because of moneu issues or failing health.
But the sad thing is so many people fail to see it coming, because alot of times the reasons just aren't very logical (to those who wouldn't think of doing the same thing)

[Steel]

Although I agree it's stupid, and I know that now, sometimes it seems like the best idea. Trust me. I've been there... on the edge.

It's impossible to understand unless you have first hand experience, but... sometimes, you can be in sooo much pain, sooo confused, and sooo lost about everything... that it seem's like it would be better to not feel anything at all ever again. Even if you know things *will* get better... you get so scared that it will happen again, and it only gets worse. And it seems like a good idea at the time (alcohol doesn't help).

But if someone ever mentions it to you.. get help for them. It will help.

[chicago_guy]

my 5th grade teacher told us a story about a girl that commited suicide...she was a poor girl that didnt have many friends...during her senior year in high school one of the most popular guys in school asked her to the prom (which was some months away)....she was so incredibly happy...her parents even got 2 or more jobs jus so they cud get enuff money to buy her a dress and shoes....well on prom night she called the guy that asked her and sed 'well when r u picking me up?' he replied 'wait...u think id actually go to the prom wit a dirty bitch like u?'...the nxt morning her rents found her in the garage...hanging by her own belt.

like all of u guys i dont c y ppl kill themselves...but it seems thats the circumstances are always pretty messed up...i think that ppl wud b betr off talkin to someone bout theyr problems

n if ur wondering wut happend to that guy....a year later he stuck a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. pretty ironic huh.

[jon@af]

Originally Posted by chicago_guy

my 5th grade teacher told us a story about a girl that commited suicide...she was a poor girl that didnt have many friends...during her senior year in high school one of the most popular guys in school asked her to the prom (which was some months away)....she was so incredibly happy...her parents even got 2 or more jobs jus so they cud get enuff money to buy her a dress and shoes....well on prom night she called the guy that asked her and sed 'well when r u picking me up?' he replied 'wait...u think id actually go to the prom wit a dirty bitch like u?'...the nxt morning her rents found her in the garage...hanging by her own belt.

like all of u guys i dont c y ppl kill themselves...but it seems thats the circumstances are always pretty messed up...i think that ppl wud b betr off talkin to someone bout theyr problems

n if ur wondering wut happend to that guy....a year later he stuck a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. pretty ironic huh.

Ive heard that before. Sad story. On a side note, do you spell much?

[Motor Eyes]

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yea its pretty bad.. i have heard all sort of answers to this question really. and eveyrone sees it differently. they say suicide is a way to get out of pain and mysery, depression or a way out of trouble. so lots of people find it acutally "selfish". seeing as they kil themselves, b4 even thinking about their families and fiends. they kill themselves and leave all that empty space in between for everyone.
Alltho i dont believe its selfishness. i also think theres a hell of a lot of reasons why people do it. and everyones got their own.
its a sad thing.. i agree aswell, they prolly dont have anyone to talk to, no support nothing.
my friend's brother was one of the most popular kids in high school, but alywas walked around depressed and noone knew why. he was afraid to talk to anyone but alwyas had a smile on his face no mater what. he ended up jumping off a cliffside beach and fell on the rocks killing himself instantly.
whats strange aswell is that the guy that killed himself, his best friend did the same thing. who knows, maybe because he realyl cared for him and didnt want to be alone

[imprtchk21]

i dont know but to me it is selfishness but thats just my opinion. im mean i dont know the stats or anything like that but isnt it true that young people are more likely to commit suicide? y? im mean yeah ive experienced the whole high school drama thing. and kids dont understand that all that stuff is not fonna matter 20yrs from now. at the time im sure it hurts but time will make it get better. here in arizona last yr 3 5th graders in the same class commited suicide. my litter sister is in 5th grade, shes 10. 10yr olds are killing themselves i dont understand what could hurt them so bad to do that.

[Motor Eyes]

dunno about the selfishness, sometimes i could be if thats what theyre headed. but i dunno.
10 years old? thats hell young. kids shuold be so worrie dat such a young age. thats too damn young. they are trying to grow up too quickly and take it out on eachother. thats just fowl thought.
its like the young girls wearing tiny skirts and dressing like little whores. bringing noones attention but 30 year old perverts. or anyone twice their age. ive seen little G-strings for 5 year olds... its so discusting, makes me wanna barf. like i said kids trying to grow up and mature to quickly.. they take it out on eachother, specially in school. thats where everything starts. i feel for them. school was the nasty shit in those days and its getting worse.
they pick on eachother, and do nasty shit thats just really uncalled for. i think the system jsut sucks. teachers let kids over do things and take it out on everyone else. noone cares in there.
but like i said, 10 years old is too young. and parents let them do too many things i wouldnt do in that age. trying to make them more mature thatn they are

[Motor Eyes]

dont pay attention to my spelling.

fuck i should start some typing lessons

[imprtchk21]

didja hear the story about a year ago about the 16yr old boy who had no probs at school or home but one day he got in trouble at school and got sent home. they called his mother and told her he ws very upset so she left work and went home to meet him. she couldnt find him in the house then she went out back in the yard and he was standing there in the rocks he had a gun in his hand she begged him to put it down but he refused as he put it to his head she begged him more and told him that she loved him but he still shot himself in the head right in front of her.

[2strokebloke]

I believe that killing oneself is extremely selfish. Rarely do the motives for suicide even put into consideration anybody else, it's simply a way for ONE person to get out of their troubles, it's not even a solution, it's way to get out of solving a problem. And when they're dead, they've left somebody else to clean up after their mess, and whatever problems they left unsolved.
They think "it's easy for me" but how often do they think "it's easier for them?" Rarely does somebody kill themself to solve other people problems, and that's because it's a selfish action.

[Motor Eyes]

Originally Posted by imprtchk21

didja hear the story about a year ago about the 16yr old boy who had no probs at school or home but one day he got in trouble at school and got sent home. they called his mother and told her he ws very upset so she left work and went home to meet him. she couldnt find him in the house then she went out back in the yard and he was standing there in the rocks he had a gun in his hand she begged him to put it down but he refused as he put it to his head she begged him more and told him that she loved him but he still shot himself in the head right in front of her.

wow, that sucks... maybe its to bring attention. attention.. sounds kinda crazy but to them maybe it is. guess it is selfishness, but in most cases sometimes it isnt. that story is an act of selfishness, and prolly an act of hatred. maybe he dispised love from someone and didnt want to be held against it.
who knows, but tahts really odd. suicide is so common now

[chicago_guy]

Originally Posted by ILike2DriveCars

Ive heard that before. Sad story. On a side note, do you spell much?

haha...u rnt the onli person to ask me that recently...i jus type like this...idk y but it jus helps me type faster...im actually quite advanced for my age in english...surprised? lol

[bobby28384]

Originally Posted by Steel

Although I agree it's stupid, and I know that now, sometimes it seems like the best idea. Trust me. I've been there... on the edge.

It's impossible to understand unless you have first hand experience, but... sometimes, you can be in sooo much pain, sooo confused, and sooo lost about everything... that it seem's like it would be better to not feel anything at all ever again. Even if you know things *will* get better... you get so scared that it will happen again, and it only gets worse. And it seems like a good idea at the time (alcohol doesn't help).

But if someone ever mentions it to you.. get help for them. It will help.

Yes, I've been there as well. Only thing that stopped me was picturing my mom, after I was dead. Suicide really is a selfish thing....